On Oct 30, 10:12=A0am, eug... at (no spam) cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) wrote:
Fanny packs started for carrying things for downhill skiers.
I find them convenient on climbs when I get to a squeeze chimney.
You can turn them on your side and still get inside.

And handy for that reason as well for the downhill skiers. You can
just pull them around to the front when getting on the lift. Most ski
areas require that regular backpacks be removed before boarding the
lift.

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Wayne <mygarbagecan at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
hlillywh at (no spam) juno.com> wrote in message
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Ibuprofen if anyone's subject to allergic reactions to stinging
insects

What? Ibuprofen does not deal with the real danger of such reactions
which is anaphylaxis. If anyone has such an allergy you best carry
epi pens - and know how to use them. And get a Sawyer extractor which
can extract some of the venom if used quickly enough.

I had stinging insects on an approach a few years back.
The recommended treatment at the time was ice and Benadryl.

I'll second the Sawyer extractor kit. I have used it far more times than
my
first aid kit, since my wife is prone to reactions (relatively minor) from
insect bites. The kit also helps on quickly attended mosquito bites. But
if you carry one around a group of other people, be prepared to "share".

Talk to your physician and be up to date on personal med problems.

I'm not so certain on an extractor kit for multiple bee stings.
Waste of time.

For bee stings, better than nothing. However, it is quite useful to know

Naw, most downhill skiers are wimps when it comes to any weight on their
backs. Slipping an arm in and out of a shoulder strap isn't rocket science.

Lift operators don't want the center of human mass moved forward.

Lift operators don't want the center of human mass moved forward.

actually that isn't the reason, it is mostly they don't want the
Backpack getting hung up in the Chair, while the skier is trying to get
off at the Top...

Having been an Operator in a previous life, at Multiple
Areas, and for multiple Outfits, this was ALWAYS the reason given for
that Policy..... If something extra was needed to be carried to the top
of the lift, the lift was stopped and the extra stuff was places nd
strapped in on a separate chair, and removed from that chair at the top,
while the lift was again stopped. This included dealing with stuff for
the Professional and Volunteer Ski Patrol, of which I also did
(Professional) in another one of my other previous lives.

On Oct 31, 11:39 am, Bruce in alaska <f... at (no spam) btpost.net> wrote:

Lift operators don't want the center of human mass moved forward.

actually that isn't the reason, it is mostly they don't want the
Backpack getting hung up in the Chair, while the skier is trying to get
off at the Top...

Which is an advantage of the fanny pack. Twisting it around to the
front eliminates that problem.

Having been an Operator in a previous life, at Multiple
Areas, and for multiple Outfits, this was ALWAYS the reason given for
that Policy..... If something extra was needed to be carried to the top
of the lift, the lift was stopped and the extra stuff was places nd
strapped in on a separate chair, and removed from that chair at the top,
while the lift was again stopped. This included dealing with stuff for
the Professional and Volunteer Ski Patrol, of which I also did
(Professional) in another one of my other previous lives.

Interesting. That has changed, at least at the Timberline Lodge area
on Mount Hood. SAR people regularly put their backpacks (even rather
large packs) on their front instead of their backs and then board and
exit the lift in the usual manner. They don't stop the lift unless
there is a problem. Of course this does move the center of mass
forward but you can adapt to that in short order.

For larger stuff like litters they do stop the lift though, usually to
hang it below a chair.

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 "hlill... at (no spam) juno.com" <hlill... at (no spam) juno.com> wrote:
On Oct 31, 11:39 am, Bruce in alaska <f... at (no spam) btpost.net> wrote:

Lift operators don't want the center of human mass moved forward.

actually that isn't the reason, it is mostly they don't want the
Backpack getting hung up in the Chair, while the skier is trying to get
off at the Top...

Which is an advantage of the fanny pack.  Twisting it around to the
front eliminates that problem.

Having been an Operator in a previous life, at Multiple
Areas, and for multiple Outfits, this was ALWAYS the reason given for
that Policy..... If something extra was needed to be carried to the top
of the lift, the lift was stopped and the extra stuff was places nd
strapped in on a separate chair, and removed from that chair at the top,
while the lift was again stopped. This included dealing with stuff for
the Professional and Volunteer Ski Patrol, of which I also did
(Professional) in another one of my other previous lives.

Interesting.  That has changed, at least at the Timberline Lodge area
on Mount Hood.  SAR people regularly put their backpacks (even rather
large packs) on their front instead of their backs and then board and
exit the lift in the usual manner.  They don't stop the lift unless
there is a problem.  Of course this does move the center of mass
forward but you can adapt to that in short order.

For larger stuff like litters they do stop the lift though, usually to
hang it below a chair.

Hal,

Like I stated this information was from "Previous Lives", back when I
was a Kid. (18 - 25 years old) and decades (many) ago, so things may be
different now, and it could be that skiers have gotten "less stupid"
(not likely)

or Lift Operators may have changed their Policies. (Could
happen) It was the Policy, back then at every place I worked, and I
worked in 6 States, and two Countries, over that period in my life....

before I grew up..... and got married, and responsible..... gave up High
Altitude Mountain Climbing then as well.....

On Nov 1, 11:05=A0am, Bruce in alaska <f... at (no spam) btpost.net> wrote:
Having been an Operator in a previous life,
....
so things may be different now, and it could be that skiers have gotten
"less stupid" (not likely)

Possible. The stupidest ones have migrated to snowboards. (Now watch
the firestorm that stirs up)

My experience with taking packs on lifts is with exactly two ski areas
so things may well be different at other places.

before I grew up..... and got married, and responsible..... gave up High

Morons I mean mormons pack Butt lube and anti-depressants

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