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| Mike Vandeman... |
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Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:48:25 -0500 (EST)
From: "Rodger Schlickeisen, Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund"
<actionfund at (no spam) defenders.org>
Subject: Video: Palin-championed program executed 14 wolf pups
Organization: Defenders of Wildlife
Dear Mike,
When you promote a grotesque program like Governor Sarah Palin’s
Alaska wolf slaughter, you can expect gruesome results.
A startling example: In June, after gunning down 14 adult wolves from
a helicopter, officials from Governor Palin’s Department of Fish and
Game rounded up 14 orphaned wolf pups and methodically shot each one
in the head in clear violation of a state law.[1]
This is a story that needs to be told. Please watch our new video on
Palin’s wolf killing record and share it with every animal lover you
know.
Warning: This video contains the disturbing truth about Governor
Palin’s out-of-control wolf killing efforts.
State law prohibits the targeting of pups -- a practice known as
denning. Maybe that’s why Palin’s officials tried to cover it up,
making no mention of the brutal pup executions in the state’s June
30th press release on the killings.[2] To date, none of the officials
involved in the incident has been held accountable.
Governor Palin could be just a heartbeat from the presidency. Do we
want a vice president who champions savagery towards animals?
Voters deserve the truth about Sarah Palin. Please watch this
disturbing new video and share it with your friends.
If you’d like to do even more to help spread the word, please consider
making a donation of $28 in memory of the 28 wolves that were killed
or whatever you can afford to help promote this video and place other
ads to ensure voters in key swing states know about Sarah Palin’s
record.
Thanks to caring supporters like you we’ve already been able to
educate literally millions of voters about Palin’s disgraceful record
on aerial killing. Our video and television spots have generated
enormous media attention about Alaska’s aerial gunning of wolves, from
newspapers to radio, TV news to even Saturday Night Live.
Our efforts are causing more and more voters to change their minds
about Palin. In the final weeks of this close election campaign you
can help make a powerful difference.
Please watch this hard-hitting new video and share it with anyone you
know who cares about our wildlife.
Thanks for all your help so far. We’ll be sure to keep you posted on
our unfolding strategy.
Gratefully,
Rodger Schlickeisen
President
Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund
P.S. If you’d like to make a memorial contribution in honor of the 28
wolves killed in this savage attack, click here.
Notes
[1]
http://www.newsminer.com/news/2008/jul/19/biologists-kill-wolf-pups-help-caribou-herd-popula/
[2] http://www.wildlife.alaska.gov/pubs/news/2008/06-27-2008.pdf
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| Me... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:10 pm |
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In article <4gc4f4d99mqgqone7n5rb4gi0rcjfg2vq5 at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
Mike Vandeman <mjvande at (no spam) pacbell.net> wrote:
Quote: Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:48:25 -0500 (EST)
From: "Rodger Schlickeisen, Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund"
actionfund at (no spam) defenders.org
Subject: Video: Palin-championed program executed 14 wolf pups
Organization: Defenders of Wildlife
Bullshit, snipped for smell......
It is just too bad, the above idiot, can't READ the Statutes of the
State of Alaska..... It isn't a violation of Alaska Law for our ADF&G
to kill wolves from the AIR, when it is "Deemed Necessary" by the
Commissioner, and authorized by the Board of Game, as was the above
action.
When will you "Flatlanders", leave us Alaskans alone to manage our OWN
Wildlife, as WE see fit. Alaska isn't your Personal Wildlife Sanctuary.
Some of us, actually, have to LIVE here, and do so in a Subsistance
Lifestyle, that requires our Large Herbivore Herds to increase at a
sustainable rate. It was deemed, by OUR State Wildlife Biologists, that
to keep this particular herd viable, the predator population needed to
be thinned. Since the Adults were killed, it made NO Sense, to leave the
Pups to "Starve to Death". So they also were killed, as humanly as
possible.
Untill you come up here, and live a few winters in "My Shoes", Shut the
Fuck Up..... and worry about your 401K, swirling down the drain.......
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of folks......... |
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| Mike Vandeman... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:18 pm |
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:10:08 GMT, Me <Me at (no spam) shadow.orgs> wrote:
Quote: In article <4gc4f4d99mqgqone7n5rb4gi0rcjfg2vq5 at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
Mike Vandeman <mjvande at (no spam) pacbell.net> wrote:
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:48:25 -0500 (EST)
From: "Rodger Schlickeisen, Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund"
actionfund at (no spam) defenders.org
Subject: Video: Palin-championed program executed 14 wolf pups
Organization: Defenders of Wildlife
Bullshit, snipped for smell......
It is just too bad, the above idiot, can't READ the Statutes of the
State of Alaska..... It isn't a violation of Alaska Law for our ADF&G
to kill wolves from the AIR, when it is "Deemed Necessary" by the
Commissioner, and authorized by the Board of Game, as was the above
action.
When will you "Flatlanders", leave us Alaskans alone to manage our OWN
Wildlife, as WE see fit.
You can't "own" animals with minds of their own. That's absurd. If
they belong to any humans (which I doubt), they belong to ALL of us.
Since you didn't give any rational (biological) reason for killing
wolves, I have to assume that they don't have any.
Alaska isn't your Personal Wildlife Sanctuary.
Quote: Some of us, actually, have to LIVE here, and do so in a Subsistance
Lifestyle, that requires our Large Herbivore Herds to increase at a
sustainable rate. It was deemed, by OUR State Wildlife Biologists, that
to keep this particular herd viable, the predator population needed to
be thinned. Since the Adults were killed, it made NO Sense, to leave the
Pups to "Starve to Death". So they also were killed, as humanly as
possible.
Untill you come up here, and live a few winters in "My Shoes", Shut the
Fuck Up..... and worry about your 401K, swirling down the drain.......
If it isn't viable to live in Alaska, without destroying the wildlife
that has more right to be there than you do, then LEAVE!
And if you want to love in a place where you can shut people up,
Governor Palin says she can see a place like that. You are welcome to
go there! In THIS country, we have a think called "Freedom of Speech".
Check it out....
Quote: Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of folks.........
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I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!
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| Mike Vandeman... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:19 pm |
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:10:08 GMT, Me <Me at (no spam) shadow.orgs> wrote:
Quote: In article <4gc4f4d99mqgqone7n5rb4gi0rcjfg2vq5 at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
Mike Vandeman <mjvande at (no spam) pacbell.net> wrote:
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:48:25 -0500 (EST)
From: "Rodger Schlickeisen, Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund"
actionfund at (no spam) defenders.org
Subject: Video: Palin-championed program executed 14 wolf pups
Organization: Defenders of Wildlife
Bullshit, snipped for smell......
It is just too bad, the above idiot, can't READ the Statutes of the
State of Alaska..... It isn't a violation of Alaska Law for our ADF&G
to kill wolves from the AIR, when it is "Deemed Necessary" by the
Commissioner, and authorized by the Board of Game, as was the above
action.
When will you "Flatlanders", leave us Alaskans alone to manage our OWN
Wildlife, as WE see fit. Alaska isn't your Personal Wildlife Sanctuary.
Some of us, actually, have to LIVE here, and do so in a Subsistance
Lifestyle, that requires our Large Herbivore Herds to increase at a
sustainable rate. It was deemed, by OUR State Wildlife Biologists, that
to keep this particular herd viable, the predator population needed to
be thinned. Since the Adults were killed, it made NO Sense, to leave the
Pups to "Starve to Death". So they also were killed, as humanly as
possible.
Untill you come up here, and live a few winters in "My Shoes", Shut the
Fuck Up..... and worry about your 401K, swirling down the drain.......
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of folks.........
P.S. Someone afraid to use their real name doesn't carry much weight.
Like NONE!
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I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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| Bruce Jensen... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:50 am |
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On Oct 13, 9:46 am, Kid Mustang <kidmusta... at (no spam) netscape.com> wrote:
Quote: If those pups had not been shot, then the Mike
Vandemans & the Rodger Schlickeisens would have
been up in arms that they were allowed to start to
death.
And if the predators not been culled, then they
would be up in arms that the herbivores were
staving to death.
KM7
Are you people all idiots or something? Sheesh...
Bruce |
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| Lloyd... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:35 am |
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On Oct 12, 5:10 pm, Me <M... at (no spam) shadow.orgs> wrote:
Quote: In article <4gc4f4d99mqgqone7n5rb4gi0rcjfg2... at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
Mike Vandeman <mjva... at (no spam) pacbell.net> wrote:
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:48:25 -0500 (EST)
From: "Rodger Schlickeisen, Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund"
actionf... at (no spam) defenders.org
Subject: Video: Palin-championed program executed 14 wolf pups
Organization: Defenders of Wildlife
Bullshit, snipped for smell......
It is just too bad, the above idiot, can't READ the Statutes of the
State of Alaska..... It isn't a violation of Alaska Law for our ADF&G
to kill wolves from the AIR, when it is "Deemed Necessary" by the
Commissioner, and authorized by the Board of Game, as was the above
action.
When will you "Flatlanders", leave us Alaskans alone to manage our OWN
Wildlife, as WE see fit. Alaska isn't your Personal Wildlife Sanctuary.
Some of us, actually, have to LIVE here, and do so in a Subsistance
Lifestyle, that requires our Large Herbivore Herds to increase at a
sustainable rate. It was deemed, by OUR State Wildlife Biologists, that
to keep this particular herd viable, the predator population needed to
be thinned. Since the Adults were killed, it made NO Sense, to leave the
Pups to "Starve to Death". So they also were killed, as humanly as
possible.
Untill you come up here, and live a few winters in "My Shoes", Shut the
Fuck Up..... and worry about your 401K, swirling down the drain.......
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of folks.........
Didn't the voters twice pass a law forbidding hunting of wolves from
the air? And the legislature overturned it both times? Whatever
happened to the will of the people?
And is it true that killing pups is against the law? |
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| Kid Mustang... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 11:46 am |
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If those pups had not been shot, then the Mike
Vandemans & the Rodger Schlickeisens would have
been up in arms that they were allowed to start to
death.
And if the predators not been culled, then they
would be up in arms that the herbivores were
staving to death.
KM7
On 10/12/08 14:10, Me wrote:
Quote: In article <4gc4f4d99mqgqone7n5rb4gi0rcjfg2vq5 at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
Mike Vandeman <mjvande at (no spam) pacbell.net> wrote:
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:48:25 -0500 (EST)
From: "Rodger Schlickeisen, Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund"
actionfund at (no spam) defenders.org
Subject: Video: Palin-championed program executed 14 wolf pups
Organization: Defenders of Wildlife
Bullshit, snipped for smell......
It is just too bad, the above idiot, can't READ the Statutes of the
State of Alaska..... It isn't a violation of Alaska Law for our ADF&G
to kill wolves from the AIR, when it is "Deemed Necessary" by the
Commissioner, and authorized by the Board of Game, as was the above
action.
When will you "Flatlanders", leave us Alaskans alone to manage our OWN
Wildlife, as WE see fit. Alaska isn't your Personal Wildlife Sanctuary.
Some of us, actually, have to LIVE here, and do so in a Subsistance
Lifestyle, that requires our Large Herbivore Herds to increase at a
sustainable rate. It was deemed, by OUR State Wildlife Biologists, that
to keep this particular herd viable, the predator population needed to
be thinned. Since the Adults were killed, it made NO Sense, to leave the
Pups to "Starve to Death". So they also were killed, as humanly as
possible.
Untill you come up here, and live a few winters in "My Shoes", Shut the
Fuck Up..... and worry about your 401K, swirling down the drain.......
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of folks......... |
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| Siskuwihane... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:35 pm |
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On Oct 12, 11:18 pm, Mike Vandeman <mjva... at (no spam) pacbell.net> wrote:
Quote: On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 21:10:08 GMT, Me <M... at (no spam) shadow.orgs> wrote:
In article <4gc4f4d99mqgqone7n5rb4gi0rcjfg2... at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
Mike Vandeman <mjva... at (no spam) pacbell.net> wrote:
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:48:25 -0500 (EST)
From: "Rodger Schlickeisen, Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund"
actionf... at (no spam) defenders.org
Subject: Video: Palin-championed program executed 14 wolf pups
Organization: Defenders of Wildlife
Bullshit, snipped for smell......
It is just too bad, the above idiot, can't READ the Statutes of the
State of Alaska..... It isn't a violation of Alaska Law for our ADF&G
to kill wolves from the AIR, when it is "Deemed Necessary" by the
Commissioner, and authorized by the Board of Game, as was the above
action.
When will you "Flatlanders", leave us Alaskans alone to manage our OWN
Wildlife, as WE see fit.
You can't "own" animals with minds of their own. <snip
Already your argument falls flat as you yourself are/were a
(irresponsible) cat owner.
http://www.imaja.com/as/environment/mvarticles/BobIsDead.html |
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| Me... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 1:03 pm |
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In article <a1f5f4t2tif5burfruarcqbjgcgrm8uae1 at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
Mike Vandeman <mjvande at (no spam) pacbell.net> wrote:
Quote: And if you want to love in a place where you can shut people up
Well Mikey, I do "love" in this place and I also LIVE here as well.
I also have the "Right" of "Freedom of Speech"..... So,I say to YOU,
Shut the Fuck Up... |
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| maguahiker at (no spam) gmail.com... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:48 pm |
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Quote: P.S. Someone afraid to use their real name doesn't carry much weight.
Like NONE!
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you mention your real name and you have never carried any weight in
discussions...except for that mid-section belly! And that doesn't
count. |
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| maguahiker at (no spam) gmail.com... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 3:50 pm |
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Quote: Didn't the voters twice pass a law forbidding hunting of wolves from
the air? And the legislature overturned it both times? Whatever
happened to the will of the people?
Good Point. I guess votes don't count much anymore...then again the
last election had a different winner and we ended up with the weiner
in the whitehouse. What a long strange trip it has been too! |
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| Lloyd... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:41 am |
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On Oct 12, 5:10 pm, Me <M... at (no spam) shadow.orgs> wrote:
Quote: In article <4gc4f4d99mqgqone7n5rb4gi0rcjfg2... at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
Mike Vandeman <mjva... at (no spam) pacbell.net> wrote:
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:48:25 -0500 (EST)
From: "Rodger Schlickeisen, Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund"
actionf... at (no spam) defenders.org
Subject: Video: Palin-championed program executed 14 wolf pups
Organization: Defenders of Wildlife
Bullshit, snipped for smell......
It is just too bad, the above idiot, can't READ the Statutes of the
State of Alaska..... It isn't a violation of Alaska Law for our ADF&G
to kill wolves from the AIR, when it is "Deemed Necessary" by the
Commissioner, and authorized by the Board of Game, as was the above
action.
And why was it deemed "necessary?" So there'd be more caribou for
hunters to shoot. Uh-huh.
And why did the agency omit any reference to killing the pups in its
news releases?
Quote:
When will you "Flatlanders", leave us Alaskans alone to manage our OWN
Wildlife, as WE see fit. Alaska isn't your Personal Wildlife Sanctuary.
Some of us, actually, have to LIVE here, and do so in a Subsistance
Lifestyle, that requires our Large Herbivore Herds to increase at a
sustainable rate.
Huh? That's really a silly statement. Hello, we have grocery stores.
Quote: It was deemed, by OUR State Wildlife Biologists, that
to keep this particular herd viable, the predator population needed to
be thinned. Since the Adults were killed, it made NO Sense, to leave the
Pups to "Starve to Death". So they also were killed, as humanly as
possible.
Bet you the state wouldn't post pictures of them doing it.
Quote:
Untill you come up here, and live a few winters in "My Shoes", Shut the
Fuck Up..... and worry about your 401K, swirling down the drain.......
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of folks......... |
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| Lloyd... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:45 am |
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On Oct 14, 1:04 pm, Me <M... at (no spam) shadow.orgs> wrote:
Quote: In article
2d7d6c95-91c7-4998-934d-737e391c6... at (no spam) t41g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
"maguahi... at (no spam) gmail.com" <maguahi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Didn't the voters twice pass a law forbidding hunting of wolves from
the air? And the legislature overturned it both times? Whatever
happened to the will of the people?
Good Point. I guess votes don't count much anymore...then again the
last election had a different winner and we ended up with the weiner
in the whitehouse. What a long strange trip it has been too!
Yep, but the problem WAS, that you can't enforce an Initiative that
Violates the State Constitution, and therefore the Legislature was
correct in overturning the passed Initiative.
If it was unconstitutional, the legislature didn't need to overturn it
-- it was simply not valid.
And please cite the section of the constitution these 2 initiatives
violated. |
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| Me... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:02 pm |
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In article
<35c153fb-4c89-4a4f-97e9-832a994e1af3 at (no spam) m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
Lloyd <lparker at (no spam) emory.edu> wrote:
Quote: Didn't the voters twice pass a law forbidding hunting of wolves from
the air? And the legislature overturned it both times? Whatever
happened to the will of the people?
And is it true that killing pups is against the law?
Not if the Board of Game, authorizes it... Read the Statute...... |
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| Me... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 12:04 pm |
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In article
<2d7d6c95-91c7-4998-934d-737e391c659f at (no spam) t41g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
"maguahiker at (no spam) gmail.com" <maguahiker at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Didn't the voters twice pass a law forbidding hunting of wolves from
the air? And the legislature overturned it both times? Whatever
happened to the will of the people?
Good Point. I guess votes don't count much anymore...then again the
last election had a different winner and we ended up with the weiner
in the whitehouse. What a long strange trip it has been too!
Yep, but the problem WAS, that you can't enforce an Initiative that
Violates the State Constitution, and therefore the Legislature was
correct in overturning the passed Initiative. |
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