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Jochen Kriegerowski...
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:14 am
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"Robert Bonomi" <bonomi at (no spam) host122.r-bonomi.com> schrieb

Quote:
Depends _who's_ cheques they are. :)

Barclays of London meet a lot less resistance than those of domestic U.S.
issuers.

No, not really. A cheque is a cheque, and is definitely a thing of the past
in Europe. The major hotel chains will still take travellers cheques, or you
can cash them at the bank; but anything else? Forget it!

Jochen
Ken Harrison...
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:42 am
Guest
MI wrote:

Quote:
A number of years ago, I took Bank of America Travelers Cheques to a Bank of
America in San Francisco. They didn't want to take them and when I persisted
they charged me a fee. Can't remember what it was---a couple of bucks I
think.

The price of doing business with Bank of America is doing business with

Bank of America. Was it any better when it was Bank of Italy?

kh
...
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:58 am
Guest
On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:42:53 -0700, Ken Harrison
<sptrain98 at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:

Quote:
MI wrote:

A number of years ago, I took Bank of America Travelers Cheques to a Bank of
America in San Francisco. They didn't want to take them and when I persisted
they charged me a fee. Can't remember what it was---a couple of bucks I
think.

The price of doing business with Bank of America is doing business with
Bank of America. Was it any better when it was Bank of Italy?

kh
Very much so!!! I left the "Bank of Italy" over forty years ago when

they refused to cash a government check because my account was not in
that branch. I went to the Bank of Ft Sam Houston which was renown
for its service to military. Never had a problem though all was done
by either phone or mail. Unfortunately the Bank of Ft Sam was bought
up by Republic Bank of Texas which promptly went belly up. The
proceeds were taken over by the Bank of North Carolina that changed
its name to Nations Bank. Then Nations Bank bought out Bank of America
and I found myself bank with the one I had left so many years ago.
Since the name, Bank of America, was better known than Nations Bank,
the new owners chose to retain that name for all operations.

Two things that were good. First, through all the transitions, the
parent bank kept their hands off Ft. Sam and left them to operate as
they had been. The only change that I saw in my service was that it
was now the "military branch of the Bank of America". One other
difference is that we can go into any Branch of BoA and cash checks,
etc with no problems, in fact they all have much more courtesy than
before.

George
David \"The Hamster\" Malone...
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:20 am
Guest
On Aug 11, 3:52 pm, pltrgyst <pltrg... at (no spam) spamlessxhost.org> wrote:

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I didn't. But they accepted them for the hotel bill.

I wouldn't believe anything this unmitigated troll says... he just
comes waltzing in here making grandiose claims about travellers checks
and hotels and stuff... and he's probably never even been out of
state, let alone the country.

Hey, I wouldn't be surprised if he spends his spare time playing pool
or some other such mindless occupation.

(Hi, Larry. :-)

David "The Hamster" Malone
Mimi...
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:40 am
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"pltrgyst" <pltrgyst at (no spam) spamlessxhost.org> wrote in message
news:02ku94lfu22piknpgc6j28rfjmffd6somg at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Quote:
On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 23:05:42 -0700, Ken Harrison <sptrain98 at (no spam) earthlink.net
wrote:

This fee, which is simply a "junk" fee providing no service, can also be
avoided by taking travelers cheques, whose commission is generally much
less than the credit card junk fees. And, if one is a member of AAA, he
can probably get those cheques for no charge at all. More's the better!

During our travels for the past twenty years in Europe, we've had great
difficulty finding businesses other than hotels which will take traveler's
checks. We find them pretty useless, unless they're AmEx and you're going
to be
staying near an AmEx location.


I'm surprised you found hotels in Europe that cashed travelers' checks.
They're just an inconvenience now. ATM for cash, credit card for bigger
amounts. And we use our credit union account, for which there's only the
normal 1% fee.

Marianne
pltrgyst...
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:52 pm
Guest
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:40:52 -0700, "Mimi" <john at (no spam) doe.com> wrote:

Quote:
I'm surprised you found hotels in Europe that cashed travelers' checks.

I didn't. But they accepted them for the hotel bill.


Quote:
They're just an inconvenience now. ATM for cash, credit card for bigger
amounts. And we use our credit union account, for which there's only the
normal 1% fee.

Agreed.

-- Larry
1100GS_rider...
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:31 pm
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Steve Wolf <news at (no spam) w8iz.com> wrote:

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Debit cards have safeguards.
If my debit card is used improperly and I conform with the requirements,
such as reporting the violation within forty-eight hours of my learning
of it, I am protected.

I believe those safeguards are just policies your bank offers, but not
required by law.

My bank offers debit card holders full coverage for fraud, too, but it's
their marketing strategy. They could cancel that policy tomorrow.

--
You can trust me; I'm not like the others.
Hatunen...
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:58 pm
Guest
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:52:46 -0400, pltrgyst
<pltrgyst at (no spam) spamlessxhost.org> wrote:

Quote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 09:40:52 -0700, "Mimi" <john at (no spam) doe.com> wrote:

I'm surprised you found hotels in Europe that cashed travelers' checks.

I didn't. But they accepted them for the hotel bill.

I can't help wondering what exchange rate they gave....

--
************* DAVE HATUNEN (hatunen at (no spam) cox.net) *************
* Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow *
* My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps *
Dash Riprock...
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:01 pm
Guest
Credit card fees are inevitable and they charge a fee either way you make
the exchange. Last December I was accidentally charged $1,300(usd) for a
conference that I was attending in Vancouver BC. (I am Canadian, and so was
the MasterCard company just not the event organizer). Well the MasterCard
company charged the 1,300, the applicable exchange rate and of course their
fee. I should not have been charged at all so I contacted MasterCard to
have the charge removed, and since the event organizer agreed this wasn't an
issue.

Skip ahead to the end of the month, on my MasterCard invoice I noticed that
they removed the $1,300, but since the exchange rate fluctuated and they
always charge a fee on currency conversions I still ended up owing $65.00 in
exchange/fees.. It was quite a fight, and since I didn't give a dam I
issued the ultimatum that I did not authorize the charge so I wasn't paying
a cent to have it removed and they could take me to court or collections to
recover it... and I was going to drop their card if I had to spend another
minute discussing it over the phone with the multitude of people that didn't
know or care what they were talking about. I won, but the lady on the phone
snottily said next time have the company do a void on the transaction so
this wouldn't happen again. If I knew they were going to do it, I would have
stopped it at the instant it happened not the next month when I noticed it
on my invoice.

Banks/Lawyers/Insurance Companies and the Oil Companies all have one thing
in common... and it has something to do with bending people over.

DR


"Rtavi" <rtavi at (no spam) eudoramail.com> wrote in message
news:AradndX-vYelBhHVnZ2dnUVZ_t3inZ2d at (no spam) comcast.com...
Quote:
We just got back from a 2 month trip to East Coast and Canada.--
Beautiful
and loved it despite $1.59/Liter for diesel!
I have always been told to use a credit card when out of the US since you
get the benefit of paying in Canada Dollars which are running at about
$.95
US then the credit card company converts your charge to $US. As far as
this
goes, it is true and I saved about $25 when the transactions were posted.
What I was not aware of was that CITI card charges a "Foreign Transaction
Fee" on every purchase. This totaled up to a charge of over $100 US.
It's
my fault for not reading all the fine print but this didn't happen 7 years
ago when I was using an ATT card in Canada. I just wanted to let you guys
to be aware of this. I should have done what I did with some of my cash
on
hand which was to go to a Royal Bank of Canada and have them change $100
US
to Canadian for a $3 fee so that I would have pocket money.(btw Canadian
money is pretty) that would have been cheaper .
Anyway we had a great trip and I wanted to save you guys some cash. Don't
be a dummy like me!

Rog...
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:04 pm
Guest
"Dash Riprock" <DashIs at (no spam) Home.ca> wrote:
Quote:
Credit card fees are inevitable and they charge a fee either way you make
the exchange. Last December I was accidentally charged $1,300(usd)
for a conference that I was attending in Vancouver BC. (I am Canadian,
and so was the MasterCard company just not the event organizer). Well
the MasterCard company charged the 1,300, the applicable exchange
rate and of course their fee. I should not have been charged at all so I
contacted MasterCard to have the charge removed, and since the event
organizer agreed this wasn't an issue.
... I won, but the lady on the phone snottily said next time have the
company do a void on the transaction so this wouldn't happen again. If
I knew they were going to do it, I would have stopped it at the instant it
happened not the next month when I noticed it on my invoice.
-----------------

You made a good point about the transaction fee, but I also wonder if
or why you did not contact the vendor about reversing charge. To me,
that's a quicker and more certain solution than waiting for the CC issuer
to consider your dispute.

Recently, I was accidentally double-charged by a local restaurant. I
simply called the manager, gave him the date + transaction #'s, and a
few days later received a credit for the second charge.
Dave Smith...
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:21 pm
Guest
Rog' wrote:

Quote:
Recently, I was accidentally double-charged by a local restaurant. I
simply called the manager, gave him the date + transaction #'s, and a
few days later received a credit for the second charge.

You're lucky. It must have been an accident and they corrected it. I once got a
Visa statement and there were two charges for a restaurant where I had used my
Visa card, one for the day we ate there and one for two days later. I called
Visa right away. They called the restaurant and they said they would credit my
account. They didn't. I called again, Visa said they would ask the restaurant
for a hard copy and if they didn't get it I would not be liable for the charge.
Still didn't get it.

It went on for 5 or 6 months, until I happened to be going by the place and
went it (in uniform|) and demanded payment. They gave me a cheque and I cashed
it immediately. A few days later someone from Visa called and asked if the
problem had been resolved. I told her about the cheque, and she said that was
good because...... after so much time had passed there wasn't much they could
do.. The bastards!!! I had contacted them as soon as I got the statement and
saw the fraudulent charge. If they had contacted the restaurant and demanded a
hard copy and didn't get on within the specified time, Visa should have credited
my account and gone after the restaurant.
MI...
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:40 pm
Guest
On 8/11/08 7:21 PM, in article 48A0F38C.ED8BEA8 at (no spam) sympatico.ca, "Dave Smith"
<adavid.smith at (no spam) sympatico.ca> wrote:

Quote:
Rog' wrote:

Recently, I was accidentally double-charged by a local restaurant. I
simply called the manager, gave him the date + transaction #'s, and a
few days later received a credit for the second charge.

You're lucky. It must have been an accident and they corrected it. I once got
a
Visa statement and there were two charges for a restaurant where I had used my
Visa card, one for the day we ate there and one for two days later. I called
Visa right away. They called the restaurant and they said they would credit my
account. They didn't. I called again, Visa said they would ask the restaurant
for a hard copy and if they didn't get it I would not be liable for the
charge.
Still didn't get it.

It went on for 5 or 6 months, until I happened to be going by the place and
went it (in uniform|) and demanded payment. They gave me a cheque and I
cashed
it immediately. A few days later someone from Visa called and asked if the
problem had been resolved. I told her about the cheque, and she said that was
good because...... after so much time had passed there wasn't much they could
do.. The bastards!!! I had contacted them as soon as I got the statement and
saw the fraudulent charge. If they had contacted the restaurant and demanded a
hard copy and didn't get on within the specified time, Visa should have
credited
my account and gone after the restaurant.


I once had the same thing happen. I phoned MasterCard and they checked, saw
what had happened and just charged it back to the restaurant. From the
sounds of things around here, I was lucky.

--
Martha T2 Canada
1500mg. Metformin, 4mg. Avandia
Rog...
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:12 pm
Guest
"MI" <quilchenapark at (no spam) shaw.ca> wrote:
Quote:
I once had the same thing happen [double charged]. I phoned
MasterCard and they checked, saw what had happened and
just charged it back to the restaurant. From the sounds of things
around here, I was lucky.

Once, a waiter changed a digit on my charge slip to increase their
tip. The restaurant, of course, had no idea what I was talking
about. The CC issuer sent me a copy of their slip and asked if I
had a copy that showed anything different. As luck would have it,
I had saved my carbon copy.

OTOH, some CC issuers are pro-consumer. Chase has called
me about questionable charges B4 I saw them (and they were
right!), they have been quick to credit disputed charges when
my claim was subjective, and once accidentally gave me double
credit (which I called to correct).
NewMan...
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:12 pm
Guest
I live in Canada, and I visit the USA often.

What the Canadian banks do is to manipulate the rate. That is, if the
"prime" exchange rate posted is that $1 US dollar is worth $1.10, then
what the bank states is that they will "buy" US$ from you for $1.05 or
they will "Sell" US$ to you for $1.15.

In essense, the fee is burried in the point spread between "buy" and
"sell" around prime rate.

When I visit the USA and use my credit card, the exchange rate spead
is quite good, but there is small fee added to every transaction.
Still, it does not work out too badly.


On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:34:26 -0400, "Tom J" <tomnews at (no spam) earthlink.net>
wrote:

Quote:
Hatunen wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 12:46:05 -0400, "Tom J"
tomnews at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:

I don't think you can get a credit card from anyone anymore that
doesn't charge a fee for Foreign exchange.

Also, the next time you visit Canada, ask if there is a fee before
exchanging cash. I have never paid a fee to exchange cash in
Canada.
I have walked out the door of a few banks and gone down the street
to
another bank.

Do be prepated with the current "real" exchange rate from a
source like Oanda. Many exchange desks and companies don't charge
a fee, but they get you with a bad exchange rate.

I do know what the official exchange rate is before I walk into a bank
when in Canada. Haven't been the last 2 years, but in 15 trips with
the RV & over 30 with an 18 wheeler, I never paid a bank a fee above
the standard exchange, even when it was $1.00 US to $1.56 Canadian.
There was a time in the early 90's that the 5th Wheel Truck Stops
would even pay a premium for US cash.

Tom J
 
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