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Andreas Kohlmann
Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 8:15 pm
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We are a family of 4 and wonder if travelling the Alaska Highway in August
next year with a regular rental car is just a silly idea or feasible. It may
sound crazy but such trips actually don't bother our 2 boys (7 and 4) at
all - we travelled North Cape this year from Southern Germany without
problem - 10.000 km round-trip !

I read it is 2.450 km from Dawson City to Fairbanks. How long does it take ?
I also read in part it seems to be a horrible road in extremely bad
condition. How about staying overnight ?

Furthermore needing to go back to Vancouver we figured out there is a ferry
leaving south from Skagway (Alaska) to Prince Rupert (B.C.) and then further
on to Vancouver Island. Any experience with this ?

Comments, help and open feedback would be highly appreciated !

Thanks in advance,
Andreas
 
David Gee
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 2:13 am
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"Andreas Kohlmann" <axkohlmann@yahoo.de> wrote in message
news:brd7m0$tr5$01$1@news.t-online.com...
Quote:
We are a family of 4 and wonder if travelling the Alaska Highway in
August
next year with a regular rental car is just a silly idea or feasible.

Wow! Nobody could accuse you of being unambitious! But it is entirely
feasible - about 4 million people do it every year <g>

Quote:
It may
sound crazy but such trips actually don't bother our 2 boys (7 and 4)
at
all - we travelled North Cape this year from Southern Germany without
problem - 10.000 km round-trip !

They will love the bits they can understand; emphasize history, gold

rush, wildlife, etc. (Sorry -- no igloos.)

Quote:
I read it is 2.450 km from Dawson City to Fairbanks. How long does it
take ?


About 6 weeks <g>

Quote:
I also read in part it seems to be a horrible road in extremely bad
condition.

Most of it is in good condition; some sections may be unpaved, but it is
well built and well maintained. It *is* an international highway, after
all!

Quote:
How about staying overnight ?

There is accommodation along the way, but you DO need to make
reservations. Food and fuel are available at regular intervals.
Quote:

Furthermore needing to go back to Vancouver we figured out there is a
ferry
leaving south from Skagway (Alaska) to Prince Rupert (B.C.) and then
further
on to Vancouver Island. Any experience with this ?

Yes, it works well, and is a beautiful route. Alaska State Ferries,
then BC Ferries. Some offer cabin accommodation, some don't. You will
have to plan on how to get from the north end of Vancouver Island to
Victoria and Vancouver. Bus? Another rental car? Another drop fee?
Quote:

Comments, help and open feedback would be highly appreciated !

Thanks in advance,
Andreas

Hints:


1) The FIRST thing to do is to buy a copy of "The Milepost", the bible
for Alaska Highway travellers. Don't delay -- you need it NOW! You
will probably find it for sale in bookstores in Germany. See more at:
http://www.themilepost.com/

2) Then there are dozens (hundreds?) of websites about the area and the
trip -- just google away every evening.

3) Where are you thinking of renting a car, and where are you thinking
of dropping it? The "drop fee" for a car rented from Whitehorse and
dropped at Skagway might be substantial; enquire first! It's only 108
miles, and they might be able to rent it to someone wishing to drive to
Whitehorse, but ... Also keep in mind that you would be dropping a
Canadian car in another country.

4) Car insurance has to be researched *very* carefully. It is
complicated, and can be expensive. There may be special rules about
damage to glass and paint from driving on gravelled roads, and about the
maximum distance you can drive. Get everything *in writing* before you
leave home. Do NOT rely on verbal assurances from car rental or
insurance agencies, and do NOT rely on this and other Newsgroups for
expertise in law, insurance, finance, third-party liability,
international diplomacy, etc. Advice - Yes. Expertise - No!

Good luck -- let us know how your plans are developing.
 
Andreas Kohlmann
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 10:46 am
Guest
David, thanks a lot for these hints !

We actually fly to and from Vancouver and plan to do the roundtrip with one
car without any dropping fees. So we need to take the car with us on the
ferries (A know-out criteria if not possible) . We have "only" 4 weeks of
travel time. So in particular the 6 weeks estimation does not sound so
promising :-(

Car insurance should not be a problem. I will doublecheck though with the
local rental car agency here in Germany.

Andreas

"David Gee" <scoop604@hotmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Quote:
"Andreas Kohlmann" <axkohlmann@yahoo.de> wrote in message
news:brd7m0$tr5$01$1@news.t-online.com...
We are a family of 4 and wonder if travelling the Alaska Highway in
August
next year with a regular rental car is just a silly idea or feasible.

Wow! Nobody could accuse you of being unambitious! But it is entirely
feasible - about 4 million people do it every year <g

It may
sound crazy but such trips actually don't bother our 2 boys (7 and 4)
at
all - we travelled North Cape this year from Southern Germany without
problem - 10.000 km round-trip !

They will love the bits they can understand; emphasize history, gold
rush, wildlife, etc. (Sorry -- no igloos.)

I read it is 2.450 km from Dawson City to Fairbanks. How long does it
take ?

About 6 weeks <g

I also read in part it seems to be a horrible road in extremely bad
condition.

Most of it is in good condition; some sections may be unpaved, but it is
well built and well maintained. It *is* an international highway, after
all!

How about staying overnight ?

There is accommodation along the way, but you DO need to make
reservations. Food and fuel are available at regular intervals.

Furthermore needing to go back to Vancouver we figured out there is a
ferry
leaving south from Skagway (Alaska) to Prince Rupert (B.C.) and then
further
on to Vancouver Island. Any experience with this ?

Yes, it works well, and is a beautiful route. Alaska State Ferries,
then BC Ferries. Some offer cabin accommodation, some don't. You will
have to plan on how to get from the north end of Vancouver Island to
Victoria and Vancouver. Bus? Another rental car? Another drop fee?

Comments, help and open feedback would be highly appreciated !

Thanks in advance,
Andreas

Hints:

1) The FIRST thing to do is to buy a copy of "The Milepost", the bible
for Alaska Highway travellers. Don't delay -- you need it NOW! You
will probably find it for sale in bookstores in Germany. See more at:
http://www.themilepost.com/

2) Then there are dozens (hundreds?) of websites about the area and the
trip -- just google away every evening.

3) Where are you thinking of renting a car, and where are you thinking
of dropping it? The "drop fee" for a car rented from Whitehorse and
dropped at Skagway might be substantial; enquire first! It's only 108
miles, and they might be able to rent it to someone wishing to drive to
Whitehorse, but ... Also keep in mind that you would be dropping a
Canadian car in another country.

4) Car insurance has to be researched *very* carefully. It is
complicated, and can be expensive. There may be special rules about
damage to glass and paint from driving on gravelled roads, and about the
maximum distance you can drive. Get everything *in writing* before you
leave home. Do NOT rely on verbal assurances from car rental or
insurance agencies, and do NOT rely on this and other Newsgroups for
expertise in law, insurance, finance, third-party liability,
international diplomacy, etc. Advice - Yes. Expertise - No!

Good luck -- let us know how your plans are developing.

 
Gord
Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 3:54 pm
Guest
You must also take into consideration that often one cannot take rental cars
across the border into the US. You should clear that little problem up too.

You are an international person travelling from Canada into the US. while I
do not think it will be a problem it is best to consult with a US consulate
to head off any problems.

Also echoing David's comments, I think you have no real idea of the length
of this journey. Two months is the usual round trip from eastern Canada and
technically Vancouver is not that much further away. To give you an idea the
journey you propose is roughly equal to travelling across the Atlantic and
back but a lot hillier.

The alternative to crossing the border is to head up the Dempster Highway to
Inuvik. This would be better because it would bring you within a short boat
ride of the Northwest Passage and the Arctic ocean.

On that destination you would travel from coastal rainforest through to
tundra. You would also do something very few do, drive across Canada but
from South to North. The return could be through Edmonton and Calgary then
to Vancouver through the Kicking Horse Pass, which would give you the feel
for the wide spaces of the prairie and the thrill of crossing the Western
Cordillera.

You would be exposed then to most of the environmental range of Canada save
for the Eastern deciduous eco-system which is much like the European forest
complex anyway. No real miss.
 
Smiley
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 3:43 am
Guest
Andreas Kohlmann wrote:

Quote:
We are a family of 4 and wonder if travelling the Alaska Highway in August
next year with a regular rental car is just a silly idea or feasible. It may
sound crazy but such trips actually don't bother our 2 boys (7 and 4) at
all - we travelled North Cape this year from Southern Germany without
problem - 10.000 km round-trip !

I read it is 2.450 km from Dawson City to Fairbanks. How long does it take ?
I also read in part it seems to be a horrible road in extremely bad
condition. How about staying overnight ?

Furthermore needing to go back to Vancouver we figured out there is a ferry
leaving south from Skagway (Alaska) to Prince Rupert (B.C.) and then further
on to Vancouver Island. Any experience with this ?

Comments, help and open feedback would be highly appreciated !

Thanks in advance,
Andreas




What a drive have fun

Yes a rental car would be ok but check wavers most do not cover stone
chips and windshield. damage.
The kids will have fun take lots of film.
You can book farrie one way and drive the other
watch out for masquetos and flies

there are some butifull boat ride in Yukon
see http://www.touryukon.com/
and http://www.nwttravel.nt.ca/
also http://www.hellobc.com

Hope these help

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Grey McGown
Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 7:18 pm
Guest
you might consider a coastal trip instead of the long drive. Start on the
BC ferry from Vancouver and connect with the Alaska Marine Highway ferry
and since you will have a car you could do some exploring from various ports
and go to Denali N'l Park to see lots of wildlife & the interior. Would be a
great experience for the kids too.
"Smiley" <smile_inspector@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Andreas Kohlmann wrote:

We are a family of 4 and wonder if travelling the Alaska Highway in
August
next year with a regular rental car is just a silly idea or feasible. It
may
sound crazy but such trips actually don't bother our 2 boys (7 and 4) at
all - we travelled North Cape this year from Southern Germany without
problem - 10.000 km round-trip !

I read it is 2.450 km from Dawson City to Fairbanks. How long does it
take ?
I also read in part it seems to be a horrible road in extremely bad
condition. How about staying overnight ?

Furthermore needing to go back to Vancouver we figured out there is a
ferry
leaving south from Skagway (Alaska) to Prince Rupert (B.C.) and then
further
on to Vancouver Island. Any experience with this ?

Comments, help and open feedback would be highly appreciated !

Thanks in advance,
Andreas




What a drive have fun
Yes a rental car would be ok but check wavers most do not cover stone
chips and windshield. damage.
The kids will have fun take lots of film.
You can book farrie one way and drive the other
watch out for masquetos and flies

there are some butifull boat ride in Yukon
see http://www.touryukon.com/
and http://www.nwttravel.nt.ca/
also http://www.hellobc.com

Hope these help

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Keith Willshaw
Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 9:39 pm
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"Gord" <gordsracing@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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Quote:

Yes Keith, I know that... but remember you are either Canadian or
American.


No I'm British

Quote:
This is a person from THIRD country and that person is renting in Canada
to
go to the US. And after 9/11 the border people are rightly diligent.


I did just this last year when I rented a car in Toronto and crossed
the border at Nigara Falls

This year I rented a car in Seattle abd drove up to Vancouver

In neither case was talking a rental car across the border a problem

Keith
 
 
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