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| Stormin Mormon... |
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:39 pm |
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Been working on a fanny pack for moments when a full bug out
bag isn't really socially acceptable. But, would be nice to
have some equipment along. Church picnic comes to mind.
At the moment, here's my fanny pack contents. Pouches 1 and
2 are on the left, puch 3 is on the right. Space 4 on the
right is the 500 ml water bottle that comes with. I'm
asking for ideas.
1 - very small pouch.
Box of matches, 2 trioxane.
2 - small pouch.
Two bottles of Boost brand diet drink, plastic bottle, screw
cap
Short light (three AAA cells)
box of matches
Main pouch
Bug spray
2 spritzers of sunscreen and bugspray combo
foling knife
2 ponchos
whistle
whistle / compass gadget with matches
2 packets of 50 foot parachute cord
1 portable toilet paper
3 - pouch
one foil blanket
1 tube (about 1..5 ounces) sunscreen
First aid kit (Tylenol, antibiotic with pain control, about
10 bandaids, 2 benzalkonium chloride wipes, 1 pair tweezers)
Box of matches
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Christopher A. Young
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| pmh... |
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:40 am |
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On Oct 24, 9:39 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61**spambloc... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Been working on a fanny pack for moments when a full bug out
bag isn't really socially acceptable. But, would be nice to
have some equipment along. Church picnic comes to mind.
At the moment, here's my fanny pack contents. Pouches 1 and
2 are on the left, puch 3 is on the right. Space 4 on the
right is the 500 ml water bottle that comes with. I'm
asking for ideas.
1 - very small pouch.
Box of matches, 2 trioxane.
2 - small pouch.
Two bottles of Boost brand diet drink, plastic bottle, screw
cap
Short light (three AAA cells)
box of matches
Main pouch
Bug spray
2 spritzers of sunscreen and bugspray combo
foling knife
2 ponchos
whistle
whistle / compass gadget with matches
2 packets of 50 foot parachute cord
1 portable toilet paper
3 - pouch
one foil blanket
1 tube (about 1..5 ounces) sunscreen
First aid kit (Tylenol, antibiotic with pain control, about
10 bandaids, 2 benzalkonium chloride wipes, 1 pair tweezers)
Box of matches
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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I would lose the boxes of matches & have instead a sealed medicine
bottle w/ strike-anywhere matches (put in head-first) & a scrap of
#200 sandpaper. One should be enough for a day pack. Slim down on the
sunscreen - again, this is a day pack. Add coupla 2-4" gauze squares &
a roll of adhesive/surgical tape. Ibuprofen if anyone's subject to
allergic reactions to stinging insects. You can get an Exacto knife in
a case much like a fountain pen; useful for minor repairs & surgery.
Mebbe coupla granola bars. ("Diet energy drink" strikes me as perhaps
an oxymoron; your caloric intake/expenditure as opposed to possible
weight gain in a single day is a minimal-to-nonexistent issue.)
PMH Reg. Me. Guide |
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| Puppet_Sock... |
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:25 am |
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On Oct 24, 9:39 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61**spambloc... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Been working on a fanny pack
The thread topic says "day trip." For me, a day trip means
something in the range of on-trail at dawn, back to the
car and home before dusk.
So lots of the stuff you have in your list is way overkill.
I usually carry:
- food for the day
- water for the day (which I usually over do as I'm a
thirsty guy)
- map (or maps depending)
- bug spray
I don't bother with the other stuff you mentioned.
For example, when hiking I wear my sun-hat so
I don't feel the need for sun block on my face.
And if it's a place I'm not familiar with, or that the trail
isn't well marked, I will add the GPS unit. I may or
may not take the camera, binoculars, etc., depending
on the scenery I'm expecting.
I find fanny packs annoying because they tend to
bounce around and get off centre and throw off my
stride. So I have a tiny little backpack for day trips.
I can get a two litre water bottle in there, a couple
sandwiches, my water-bladder in an outside pouch
and there's room for the maps, GPS, and bug spray.
And then it's full. If I'm taking the camera I take a
bigger pack that has room for it and some more
stuff.
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| hlillywh at (no spam) juno.com... |
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:02 am |
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On Oct 25, 5:40 am, pmh <pmhil... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
Quote: I would lose the boxes of matches & have instead a sealed medicine
bottle w/ strike-anywhere matches
Better yet, get some storm-proof matches. Not strike anywhere but
they will work in all sorts of nasty conditions, exactly when you are
most likely to need a fire. Add a bit of some sort of fire starter
such as cotton balls soaked with vasoline or some sort of paraffin
soaked burnable.
Quote: Ibuprofen if anyone's subject to allergic reactions to stinging insects
What? Ibuprofen does not deal with the real danger of such reactions
which is anaphylaxis. If anyone has such an allergy you best carry
epi pens - and know how to use them. And get a Sawyer extractor which
can extract some of the venom if used quickly enough.
Quote: You can get an Exacto knife in
a case much like a fountain pen; useful for minor repairs & surgery.
Why bother? Just get one of the very useful multi-tools now
available. They have knife blades, screwdrivers (often different
sizes, blade and Phillips), sometimes even a small saw. I used to
carry a pocket knife but find that those are so much more useful that
that's what I carry now.
And of course don't forget the most important equipment of all: a well-
stocked and functioning brain. |
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| Wayne... |
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:20 am |
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<hlillywh at (no spam) juno.com> wrote in message
news:5103ede3-34d7-47b6-a76d-2e6ce474f8ff at (no spam) 13g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 25, 5:40 am, pmh <pmhil... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
Quote: I would lose the boxes of matches & have instead a sealed medicine
bottle w/ strike-anywhere matches
.Better yet, get some storm-proof matches. Not strike anywhere but
they will work in all sorts of nasty conditions, exactly when you are
most likely to need a fire. Add a bit of some sort of fire starter
such as cotton balls soaked with vasoline or some sort of paraffin
soaked burnable.
Ibuprofen if anyone's subject to allergic reactions to stinging insects
What? Ibuprofen does not deal with the real danger of such reactions
which is anaphylaxis. If anyone has such an allergy you best carry
epi pens - and know how to use them. And get a Sawyer extractor which
can extract some of the venom if used quickly enough.
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I'll second the Sawyer extractor kit. I have used it far more times than my
first aid kit, since my wife is prone to reactions (relatively minor) from
insect bites. The kit also helps on quickly attended mosquito bites. But
if you carry one around a group of other people, be prepared to "share".
A much smaller alternative is a short piece of clear, soft plastic tubing
that you can press on the insect bite and use suction on the other end. |
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| Wolf Leverich... |
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:24 pm |
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On 2009-10-25, hlillywh at (no spam) juno.com <hlillywh at (no spam) juno.com> wrote:
Quote: On Oct 25, 5:40 am, pmh <pmhil... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
Ibuprofen if anyone's subject to allergic reactions to stinging insects
What? Ibuprofen does not deal with the real danger of such reactions
which is anaphylaxis. If anyone has such an allergy you best carry
epi pens - and know how to use them. And get a Sawyer extractor which
can extract some of the venom if used quickly enough.
If you don't have access to an epipen, a possible substitute
is Primatene Mist. That's inhaled epinephrine, and you can
buy it over-the-counter in America.
It's a passable substitute for albuterol, too, if an
asthmatic forgets to bring along their rescue inhaler.
And Primatene only weighs a couple of ounces, has a
reasonable shelf life, and costs about $25.
I've heard some people claim it's actually better than an
epipen for anaphylactic shock, but I don't even play a
doctor on the Internet so I have no opinion on that claim
at all ...
Cheers, Wolf. |
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| pmh... |
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:46 am |
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On Oct 26, 8:31 am, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61**spambloc... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
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You can get an Exacto knife in
a case much like a fountain pen; useful for minor repairs &
surgery.
CY: For that, I'd be thinking a utility knife with break off
blades.
That would be a handy item. Someone above mentioned the multi-tool
(Leatherman, et. al.) which I view askance. They're bulky, heavy, all
but the best [expensive] ones have questionable machining of the
various tools, and their multi-usage would compromise sanitation
whenever minor surgery is called for. And of the three I own, none
fits the hand comfortably. I mention the Exacto because its pen-like
case would aid sanitation. The small utility knife w/ break off blades
would be equivalent. |
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| Stormin Mormon... |
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:33 am |
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That's the goal, is to be back to the car by night fall, and
head for home. I havn't tried the pack, so it may very well
be off center, and miserable, and so on. Your other ideas
are good, more food and water.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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"Puppet_Sock" <puppet_sock at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f9f7c22c-9935-47ad-87ed-98c6e5375c55 at (no spam) e18g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 24, 9:39 pm, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61**spambloc... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Been working on a fanny pack
The thread topic says "day trip." For me, a day trip means
something in the range of on-trail at dawn, back to the
car and home before dusk.
So lots of the stuff you have in your list is way overkill.
I usually carry:
- food for the day
- water for the day (which I usually over do as I'm a
thirsty guy)
- map (or maps depending)
- bug spray
I don't bother with the other stuff you mentioned.
For example, when hiking I wear my sun-hat so
I don't feel the need for sun block on my face.
And if it's a place I'm not familiar with, or that the trail
isn't well marked, I will add the GPS unit. I may or
may not take the camera, binoculars, etc., depending
on the scenery I'm expecting.
I find fanny packs annoying because they tend to
bounce around and get off centre and throw off my
stride. So I have a tiny little backpack for day trips.
I can get a two litre water bottle in there, a couple
sandwiches, my water-bladder in an outside pouch
and there's room for the maps, GPS, and bug spray.
And then it's full. If I'm taking the camera I take a
bigger pack that has room for it and some more
stuff.
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| Stormin Mormon... |
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:34 am |
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Hey,that's an idea. I'll have to stop by a pharmacy one day,
and check into it.
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Christopher A. Young
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"Wolf Leverich" <leverich at (no spam) linkpendium.com> wrote in message
news:slrnhea5k5.u6k.leverich at (no spam) askin-17.linkpendium.com...
If you don't have access to an epipen, a possible substitute
is Primatene Mist. That's inhaled epinephrine, and you can
buy it over-the-counter in America.
It's a passable substitute for albuterol, too, if an
asthmatic forgets to bring along their rescue inhaler.
And Primatene only weighs a couple of ounces, has a
reasonable shelf life, and costs about $25.
I've heard some people claim it's actually better than an
epipen for anaphylactic shock, but I don't even play a
doctor on the Internet so I have no opinion on that claim
at all ...
Cheers, Wolf. |
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| Stormin Mormon... |
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:37 am |
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http://www.primatene.com/products/label_mist.asp
Neat stuff! Just like you say, inhalable epinephrine.
--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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"Wolf Leverich" <leverich at (no spam) linkpendium.com> wrote in message
news:slrnhea5k5.u6k.leverich at (no spam) askin-17.linkpendium.com...
If you don't have access to an epipen, a possible substitute
is Primatene Mist. That's inhaled epinephrine, and you can
buy it over-the-counter in America.
It's a passable substitute for albuterol, too, if an
asthmatic forgets to bring along their rescue inhaler.
And Primatene only weighs a couple of ounces, has a
reasonable shelf life, and costs about $25.
I've heard some people claim it's actually better than an
epipen for anaphylactic shock, but I don't even play a
doctor on the Internet so I have no opinion on that claim
at all ...
Cheers, Wolf. |
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| hlillywh at (no spam) juno.com... |
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:23 am |
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On Oct 30, 10:12 am, eug... at (no spam) cse.ucsc.edu (Eugene Miya) wrote:
Quote: Fanny packs started for carrying things for downhill skiers.
I find them convenient on climbs when I get to a squeeze chimney.
You can turn them on your side and still get inside.
And handy for that reason as well for the downhill skiers. You can
just pull them around to the front when getting on the lift. Most ski
areas require that regular backpacks be removed before boarding the
lift. |
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| Eugene Miya... |
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:06 pm |
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In article <5e3ba089-35cc-40b4-91e8-a07f59fa088b at (no spam) p23g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
pmh <pmhilton at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
Hey Pete, I did my first weekend trip to Maine 2 weekends ago.
Quote: On Oct 24, 9:39=A0pm, "Stormin Mormon"
cayoung61**spambloc... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Been working on a fanny pack for moments when a full bug out
bag isn't really socially acceptable. But, would be nice to
have some equipment along. Church picnic comes to mind.
Socially acceptable?
OK, so spend a summer night out with just what you have in this pack.
Nice state you have there, hope to fly around again one of these days. |
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| Eugene Miya... |
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:12 pm |
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In article <f9f7c22c-9935-47ad-87ed-98c6e5375c55 at (no spam) e18g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,
Puppet_Sock <puppet_sock at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Oct 24, 9:39=A0pm, "Stormin Mormon"
cayoung61**spambloc... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Been working on a fanny pack
I find fanny packs annoying because they tend to
bounce around and get off centre and throw off my
stride. So I have a tiny little backpack for day trips.
I can get a two litre water bottle in there, a couple
sandwiches, my water-bladder in an outside pouch
and there's room for the maps, GPS, and bug spray.
And then it's full. If I'm taking the camera I take a
bigger pack that has room for it and some more
Fanny packs started for carrying things for downhill skiers.
I find them convenient on climbs when I get to a squeeze chimney.
You can turn them on your side and still get inside. A full pack has to
be taken off, not dropped, then hauled. Taking one up Charlotte Dome
was better than a day pack.
My overnight Thule pack was side pockets which can double not only as a
short duration fanny pack but can strip for replacement pack parts which
I had to do for a recent Marbles trip. Integration is the trick. |
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| Eugene Miya... |
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:20 pm |
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In article <hc1trr$gkd$1 at (no spam) news.eternal-september.org>,
Wayne <mygarbagecan at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
Quote: hlillywh at (no spam) juno.com> wrote in message
news:5103ede3-34d7-47b6-a76d-2e6ce474f8ff at (no spam) 13g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
Ibuprofen if anyone's subject to allergic reactions to stinging insects
What? Ibuprofen does not deal with the real danger of such reactions
which is anaphylaxis. If anyone has such an allergy you best carry
epi pens - and know how to use them. And get a Sawyer extractor which
can extract some of the venom if used quickly enough.
I had stinging insects on an approach a few years back.
The recommended treatment at the time was ice and Benadryl.
Quote: I'll second the Sawyer extractor kit. I have used it far more times than my
first aid kit, since my wife is prone to reactions (relatively minor) from
insect bites. The kit also helps on quickly attended mosquito bites. But
if you carry one around a group of other people, be prepared to "share".
Talk to your physician and be up to date on personal med problems.
I'm not so certain on an extractor kit for multiple bee stings.
Waste of time. |
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| Eugene Miya... |
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:27 pm |
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Quote: You can get an Exacto knife in
a case much like a fountain pen; useful for minor repairs &
surgery.
Are you going to cut an airway?
In article <2894cf30-37d5-4510-80e2-bb5a2f95b4c5 at (no spam) p9g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>,
pmh <pmhilton at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
Quote: On Oct 26, 8:31=A0am, "Stormin Mormon"
cayoung61**spambloc... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
CY: For that, I'd be thinking a utility knife with break off blades.
That would be a handy item. Someone above mentioned the multi-tool
(Leatherman, et. al.) which I view askance. They're bulky, heavy, all
but the best [expensive] ones have questionable machining of the
various tools, and their multi-usage would compromise sanitation
whenever minor surgery is called for. And of the three I own, none
fits the hand comfortably. I mention the Exacto because its pen-like
case would aid sanitation. The small utility knife w/ break off blades
would be equivalent.
It depends what you are carrying. If you have a preceived notion of say
walking, then you are ignoring kayakers, skiers, and other forms of rec.
My Gerber was handy in kayak repairs. Wenger made a Swiss Army Knife
for bikes, and I got an extra hex key wrench which I shaved down to work
on my Ramer bindings. Multitools are no substitute for real tool boxes
like those found in the various research field camps I visit. But I
will say that I am looking forward once again to visiting the Victorinox
factory in December. |
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