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Mike Vandeman...
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:12 am
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Beginning to see a pattern here? Mountain bikers say their sport is a
safe, fun, environmentally benign activity for the whole family. If
mountain biking is such a good thing, I wonder why mountain bikers
need to lie about it?

Mike


http://news.theage.com.au/breaking-news-national/ses-leader-dies-in-mountain-bike-event-20090914-fnba.html

SES leader dies in mountain bike event

September 14, 2009 - 4:59PM

NSW State Emergency Service (SES) Commissioner Murray Kear says he's
devastated by the sudden death of Deputy Commissioner Greg Slater.

Mr Slater, 46, of Mount Keira, died of an apparent heart attack while
taking part in a mountain biking endurance event with his son in the
Mogo State Forest on the NSW south coast on Sunday.

Mr Kear said Mr Slater was a "much loved" and highly-decorated officer
who had served with the SES for 11 years.

The SES telephones were ringing "hot with condolences" from around the
country and from overseas over the loss of Mr Slater.

"Today we're like a small family, feeling it very hard, all around the
state," he said.

Mr Slater's death had come as a shock because he had been a healthy,
fit man, Mr Kear said.

Endurance sports were his hobby and he had previously competed in the
Australian ironman triathlon championships four times.

"Greg was the epitome of a healthy person ... anything that had
physical exercise attached to it, Greg would be in it, so it's just a
shock," he said.

Mr Kear said Mr Slater's wife Jenny, also a NSW SES employee, his
daughter Madaline and his son Alex, who was cycling in the event with
his father when he died, were devastated.

"(They are) trying to come to terms with the loss of a husband and a
father," he said.

Mr Slater joined the Australian Federal Police (AFP) in 1981 and
served in Cyprus and East Timor, as well as with the Rescue Squad.

NSW Minister for Emergency Services Steve Whan said Mr Slater had been
instrumental in the development of the SES since his appointment as
deputy commissioner in 2004.

He had been recognised for his dedication, commitment and bravery,
having been awarded an AFP Commendation for Brave Conduct and a United
Nations Fire Commander's Commendation for Brave Conduct.

"Mr Slater's leadership and dedication to the community of New South
Wales and to his country will be sorely missed," Mr Whan said in a
statement.

"On behalf of the New South Wales government, I extend my sympathies
to Mr Slater's family and colleagues."

Mr Kear said the NSW SES was discussing memorial arrangements with Mr
Slater's family.

A post-mortem examination is being conducted to determine the cause of
his death and police will prepare a report for the coroner.
 
Jeff Strickland...
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 3:25 pm
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"Mike Vandeman" <mike.vandeman at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1b08958b-4e66-4987-98b1-57c640f5fbde at (no spam) g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
Beginning to see a pattern here? Mountain bikers say their sport is a
safe, fun, environmentally benign activity for the whole family. If
mountain biking is such a good thing, I wonder why mountain bikers
need to lie about it?



Yep, the pattern is starting to develop. You're a complete idiot.
 
Ben Crowell...
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:40 pm
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Hi, Mike,

The topic of mountain biking (or why you think it's bad) isn't one that
interests me personally, so I've set my usenet reader's filter to delete
posts that are from mike.vandeman at (no spam) gmail.com AND have "mountain bik" in
the subject line. That means I'll still see any posts you make in
rec.backcountry on any other topics. I'm sure a lot of us would enjoy
hearing your posts in rec.backcountry on other subjects.

For others on rec.backcountry, could I suggest that responding to Mike's
posts and telling him to shut up is not really productive? You actually
can't make him shut up, since this is usenet, and this group is
unmoderated. You also won't convince him that way. All it accomplishes
is to reduce the signal to noise ratio of the group.

I am *not* cross-posting this to alt.mountain-bike, rec.bicycles.soc,
or ca.environment, which Mike cross-posted on, because I do not want
lower the signal-to-noise ratio of those groups. Mike, cross-posting
on lots of groups is generally poor usenet etiquette unless you're
really certain that your post is on-topic for all those groups.

Ben
 
Dr. Brian Leverich...
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:18 am
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On 2009-09-15, JP <vze2wx8p at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:

Quote:
Wrong on all counts Vandemoron.

1) Unlike you I have significant assets and I (apparently again =
unlike you)
know that the internet is mined for data that can be used in =
identity theft.
So I tend not to reveal personal information.


I'm a mountain biker and don't have a lot of love for
Mikey, but I'm kinda with him on people not just flopping
out their names.

"Identity theft" is largely a crock. Most of what is
called "identity theft" is just relatives using your
credit cards without your permission, and almost all of
the rest is very mundane the-waiter-skimmed-your-card-
before-charging-it-for-the-restaurant stuff.

The reason why people wanna be anonymous on USENET is
because they want to say stuff that they don't want to
own. That may be fun, but it's also kinda cowardly.

Cheers, Wolf.
 
Chick Tower...
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:55 pm
Guest
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:40:58 -0700, Ben Crowell wrote:

Quote:
I'm sure a lot of us would enjoy hearing your [Vandeman's]
posts in rec.backcountry on other subjects.

Your definition of "a lot" appears to be much different than mine, Ben.
You must be new here if you want to read posts from Vandeman.

--
Chick Tower

For e-mail: rbc DOT sent DOT towerboy AT xoxy DOT net
 
JP...
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:18 am
Guest
**Not using your real name guarantees that you will be ignored. For good
**reason. You are a nonentity.

**And not providing any specifics guarantees that you are lying: You
**don't want anyone checking your assertions. Even MORE reason to ignore
**you.

You can't seem to follow your own advice.
Please ignore me.

To bring your arguments to the 'reducto ad absurdum'
lets just point out that you provide 'specifics' but as they
are out of context and irrelevant they are ignored by everyone,
bikers, neighbors, elected officials, and environmentalists.
This would define you as a "nonentity,"
ie one invisible to the world of sane humanity.
You freely share your name as well but this has not
helped your illogical arguments at all.

Therefore one's real name hardly qualifies one as an entity
and sharing specifics that are not relevant to the hypothesis
one proposes as a device to pretend one is offering proof
is evidence that one has no substantive proof and is lying.

Your little argument about truth and existence doe not hold water.
Nor do your longwinded essays about mountain bikes,
health and the environment.

Time for a clever "Duh," Mikey, and maybe "did you say something?"
Retreat to the schoolyard retorts and dismissive insults.
(Is that the best a PhD in psychology can offer?)
 
Mike Vandeman...
Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:49 pm
Guest
On Sep 16, 6:18 am, "JP" <vze2w... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
Quote:
**Not using your real name guarantees that you will be ignored. For good
**reason. You are a nonentity.

**And not providing any specifics guarantees that you are lying: You
**don't want anyone checking your assertions. Even MORE reason to ignore
**you.

You can't seem to follow your own advice.
Please ignore me.

To bring your arguments to the 'reducto ad absurdum'
lets just point out that you provide 'specifics' but as they
are out of context and irrelevant they are ignored by everyone,
bikers, neighbors, elected officials, and environmentalists.
This would define you as a "nonentity,"
ie one invisible to the world of sane humanity.
You freely share your name as well but this has not
helped your illogical arguments at all.

Therefore one's real name hardly qualifies one as an entity
and sharing specifics that are not relevant to the hypothesis
one proposes as a device to pretend one is offering proof
is evidence that one has no substantive proof and is lying.

Your little argument about truth and existence doe not hold water.
Nor do your longwinded essays about mountain bikes,
health and the environment.

Time for a clever "Duh,"  Mikey, and maybe "did you say something?"
Retreat to the schoolyard retorts and dismissive insults.
(Is that the best a PhD in psychology can offer?)

Thanks for proving my point.
 
dardruba...
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:55 pm
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Jeff Strickland wrote:
Quote:
"Mike Vandeman" <mike.vandeman at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1b08958b-4e66-4987-98b1-57c640f5fbde at (no spam) g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
Beginning to see a pattern here? Mountain bikers say their sport is a
safe, fun, environmentally benign activity for the whole family. If
mountain biking is such a good thing, I wonder why mountain bikers
need to lie about it?



Yep, the pattern is starting to develop. You're a complete idiot.

We dont know who you people are, but just stop feeding the troll

and stop crossposting too.

DD
UK
 
 
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