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| Carsten Troelsgaard |
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 9:43 am |
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Hi All
I'm a guest in this group and may have hit the wrong one? -
As a geologist I have studied the latest fine photoes of the Spirit landing
on Mars. And as a sedimentologist I'm conserned about the morphology of the
Mars surface. As it turns out, a lot of the Earth-bound consepts on
sedimentation and erosion may see a cerious revision to apply for Martian
conditions as the action of water (and hench biochemistry) and ice on Earth
are ever present here. Obviously wind is at work on shaping Mars.
Adding chemical points to the inter-sedimentary processes brings me to a
total stand-still. I don't seem to know any chemistry that does not involves
water.
A parameter of sediments is their state of chemical breakdown ...
quartz-sand can be seen as the totally mature sediment (in some parts of our
globe) with the more soluble parts separated (chalk, salt, clay).
What kind of processes should be expected on Mars - what order of events?
What kind of sorting-mechanism may work on Mars?
I don't seem to have the faintest clue.
A somewhat odd perspective of mine involves the idea, that the Earth oceans
are a sink of windborn dust. As this sink is absent on Mars, the more
chemically active constituents of a normal sediment is likely (?) to be ever
persent in the windborn dust and prone for ... what kind of processes?
Carsten |
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| David Naugler |
Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 5:58 pm |
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"Carsten Troelsgaard" <carsten.troelsgaard@mail.dk> wrote in message news:<4001612b$0$29301$edfadb0f@dread15.news.tele.dk>...
Quote: Hi All
I'm a guest in this group and may have hit the wrong one? -
As a geologist I have studied the latest fine photoes of the Spirit landing
on Mars. And as a sedimentologist I'm conserned about the morphology of the
Mars surface. As it turns out, a lot of the Earth-bound consepts on
sedimentation and erosion may see a cerious revision to apply for Martian
conditions as the action of water (and hench biochemistry) and ice on Earth
are ever present here. Obviously wind is at work on shaping Mars.
Adding chemical points to the inter-sedimentary processes brings me to a
total stand-still. I don't seem to know any chemistry that does not involves
water.
A parameter of sediments is their state of chemical breakdown ...
quartz-sand can be seen as the totally mature sediment (in some parts of our
globe) with the more soluble parts separated (chalk, salt, clay).
What kind of processes should be expected on Mars - what order of events?
What kind of sorting-mechanism may work on Mars?
I don't seem to have the faintest clue.
A somewhat odd perspective of mine involves the idea, that the Earth oceans
are a sink of windborn dust. As this sink is absent on Mars, the more
chemically active constituents of a normal sediment is likely (?) to be ever
persent in the windborn dust and prone for ... what kind of processes?
Carsten
There is tonnes of organic chemistry that can be achieved in the
absence of water or any other solvent. Great advances are being
achieved by clandestine chemists using clay and other minerals.
Neccessity is the mother of invention.
Please go to the search engine:
http://www.rhodium.ws/chemistry/
and search first on the word 'clay.
If man can do it, then most likely, father nature is not far behind.
Inorganic chemists often like to work in solvent free systems, if
possible. All that is neccessary is that a reactive mixture be raised
to a sintering temperature. Perhaps a constant rain of micrometeorites
on the surface of Mars is reworking the minerology. |
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| Acid Test |
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 4:00 pm |
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Joined: 12 Jan 2004
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Actually water does exist,even though it is in the form of a nitrated water compound.Earths water has the odd nitrated water molecule.It occurs during the process of disinfecting water from human waste(mainly urea)by removing the NH2 amine
Even still the metals on mars contain oxides from oxidation and the redness of the planet suggests a ferric component.This is from the oxidation of Iron.
If there is oxygen on the planet then there must be hydrogen.On Jupiter the atmoshere contains ammonia.
It would be my belief that there may be a hydrazine aspect to the mysterious planet-Mars |
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