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| Q-on |
 Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:17 pm |
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Quote: From the time of J.J. Thomson discovery of the electrons,
Rutherford finding of the protons, Chadwick derivations
of the neutrons, and the buildup of their consequent
relationships by Bohr, Pauli, Einstein, deBroglie,
Schrodinger, etc. to the present. They are basing it on
the physical properties of it all and especially the
electromagnetic side of it (electrons, electric
field, photons, electromagnetic fields, etc.)which
majority of our instruments can see as well as our eyes.
It is because we think our physical senses are all there
is to it and especially our eyes which receive photons
and interact with electromagnetic wave in the visible
range. We think electromagnetic force is the only major
one in the atom (as well as the other 3). Hence we
focus our understanding on the electromagnetic force
because it is what we can see and what most of our
instruments can detect beside acoustic wave. Of course
we also derived the strong and weak forces
(courtesy of Yukawa and Fermi) and gravity (courtesy
of Newton). But electromagnetic force is the major
force in our lives because we used it to interact
with the world. The strong and weak being just confined
to the nucleus and the gravity a boring monoforce (dealt
with by General Relativity). As the years go by. They are
intermixed producing QCD, QED, QFT, etc.
Since almost all our instruments can only detect
electromagnetic force (as well as acoustic). What if
there are other forces that don't register with
our instruments and also don't register on our physical
senses. Does that mean they don't exist? No.
There are other forces that interact with human. The
detection of them required shifting to another level
of awareness because they can only be perceived using
non-physical means. In due time, instruments can be
constructed to detect them too.
The findings of those who can perceive them says all
matter has an extra energy field.. an intelligent field
in the atom interactive with our mind that may be related
to Bohm implicate order or the coupling in between them.
So aside from the main forces and particles in the
atoms. There are others that exist parallel to them.
Alert readers may say the mind is just a property of the
brain. But come to think of it. The extra energy field
quality of the atoms in the brain produces the mind in a collective
sense hence interacting with all atoms which
also has these undiscovered properites. Think deeply.
The new physics involves the study of this non-physical
dynamics. From the study. We can even find out that
the strong and weak forces may just be illusions and
there are other ways the atoms properties can be explained
without them. By the study of the new physics. We can
even find out that Gravity is not what we think it is
and that it relates to other forces in some ways finally
producing the elusive TOE.
I feel we are like in the beginning of the 20th century
in 1905 when Quantum Mechanics is just in the starting
phase that will take decades to be perfected. Likewise
we are also living at a time when we are just starting
to enter into this new physics phase that may take
decades to be perfected. We don't know when it will
be perfected. But when it does. Humanity enters the
Golden Age when the impact of it can be felt in every
part of life and propel us to heights we never know
existed.
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| Uncle Al |
| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 8:40 pm |
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| Q-on |
| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 9:38 pm |
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Uncle Al wrote:
Quote: Q-on wrote:
[snip crap]
The new physics involves the study of this non-physical
dynamics.
[snip rest of crap]
Q-on
Bugger-off.
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Uncle Al
A true scientist won't reject things as easily without
first learning the in and out of it all.
Imagine a 13th century scientist studying the wind
who thought only the wind was worth studying. He never
imagined the light he saw with his eyes would be part
of the science of the future where electromagnetic field
exist and related to the electrons and electric field.
Likewise the stunning finding 20 or 30 years from now
would be that our consciousness, our mind is made from the
extra properties of the atoms in the brain hence our
mind is interactive with all the atoms and matter out
there. Everything is made of mindstuff.
Get ready for the future. I promise and guarantee you
it will come eventually.
Q-on |
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| Sam Wormley |
| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:02 pm |
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| Sam Wormley |
| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:16 pm |
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Q-on wrote:
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A true scientist won't reject things as easily without
first learning the in and out of it all.
Troll infested newsgroups are typically not a place where new
physics is introduced. Bugger off troll. |
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| Q-on |
| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 10:31 pm |
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Sam Wormley wrote:
Quote: Q-on wrote:
A true scientist won't reject things as easily without
first learning the in and out of it all.
Troll infested newsgroups are typically not a place where new
physics is introduced. Bugger off troll.
Uncle Al, Sam Wormley imprisoned inside C. What is outside
C may be the true reality. Within C is just illusion. So
it's not surprising to be trapped inside illusion.
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| Androcles |
| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 11:38 pm |
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Psychotic ineducable boring spammer (Alan Schwartz),
the royal fuckwit, "Uncle Al" <UncleAl0@hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:421CA8D5.202258D0@hate.spam.net...
Quote: Why are you having so much trouble with basic algebra?
Let L_1 = distance light travels in going from Sam to Joe, as
measured in the stationary frame.
1) L_1 = cL/(c-v)
What a right royal stooopid motherfucker.
See the peeing puppy moortel, he'll not be glad to add
you to his list of truly IMMORTAL fumbles. I will, though.
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| ring_theory |
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:33 am |
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If mankind thinks that physics are going to conform to his thinking than he
is sadly mistaken.
Understanding that would be a revolution for physics. lol |
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| newedana |
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:55 am |
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Physics Revolution seems to have already occurred, but in a different
way:
".................. However, man gradually turned out to be like an
animal in viewing the nature ever since the first discovery of atomic
structure by Rutherford, and the electron by Irish physicist G. J.
Stoney and British physicist J. J. Thomson et al around 1897. They
stated that the electron was nothing else than a mass particle building
atoms of all the material system, in respect that its motion obeying
projectile mechanics. The philosophical implication of their thoughts
was profound. ...................... These ideologies say that reliable
knowledge never comes from a shadowy work of human brain, but from real
things touchable, visible and audible with their sensory organs, since
human being is nothing else than a kind of animal species evolved from
single-cell life happen to be emerged on the earth, according to
Charles Darwin's evolutional doctrine. ....................."
" ..................... Under this philosophical background, there
emerged two basic physical theories in the beginning of last century.
One was the quantum mechanical theory initiated by Max Plank, and the
other was [a set of] two theories of relativity, proposed by Albert
Einstein. .................. Both are allegedly particle physics based
on the philosophy of materialism or positivism. In order to describe
the nature with their logic of particle physics, energy and light that
are essentially continuous entities in character had to be subdivided
into unit particles. These particles were called quanta and photon, the
smallest ultimate energy and light particles, indivisible further into
much smaller units. However, this postulation was immediately against
the natural law. .................."
Dr. Hansik Yoon stated in the preface of his book, "Natural Science
Founded on A New Atomic Model". You may read the whole preface from
http://www.yoonsatom.net
You may read his whole book, if you visit the library of University of
Chicago.
http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/crerar/newbooks/nb0105.html
Dr. Hansik Yoon continued. "............... It was the same idea as
that the numerical gap between 1 and 2 could be filled with the
smallest ultimate decimals of infinite numbers. It is a trick to
persuade people to believe improbable things or events as real. If we
use this trick, for example, we can readily prove that [the length of]
two sides of a triangle is equal to the third one.
...................... However, obviously this is no more a triangle."
"............... Continuous entities are theoretically impossible to
subdivide into final subunits, since they are divisible endlessly, and
subdivided final products have the same as their initia1 character.
Energy and light are such entities. Atoms or bio-cells are exceptions,
because they are impossible to be subdivided into much smaller unit
particles without sacrificing their initial atomic or cellular
characters. ........................"
"............... For example, the quantum oscillator, the latest atomic
model, was built based on this idea of particle physics. The kinetic
energy of orbital electron orbiting in three dimensional space forming
an electron cloud cannot balance out theoretically with its potential
energy. .................. Nevertheless, these two energies of orbital
electron are unreasonably balanced in the Shrodinger's wave equation.
It conflicts with a plain truth of physical law. .....................
So the orbital electron of the quantum oscillator cannot perform a real
oscillation, but only an imaginary oscillation in the mathematical
equation. ...................................."
Dr. Hansik Yoon also stated in the preface of his book that
"............... The magnetism induced by this tiny persistent current
ring that has allegedly the Meissoner's diamagnetism effect against
external magnetism governs all the physicochemical phenomena occurring
in material world. It is not the electric attraction force believed
from the 17th century up to now. ................................."
You may read the whole preface of Dr. Yoon's book from
http://www.yoonsatom.net
Or you may read his whole book, if you visit the library of University
of Chicago. http://www.lib.uchicago.edu/e/crerar/newbooks/nb0105.html |
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| Q-on |
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:57 am |
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ring_theory wrote:
Quote: If mankind thinks that physics are going to conform to his thinking
than he
is sadly mistaken.
Understanding that would be a revolution for physics. lol
The revolution has already been started by the following
people:
1. William Tiller Ph.D Physics
2. Thomas Bearden Ph.D Physics
3. Paul La Violette Ph.D. Physics
4. Jack Sarfatti Ph.D. Physics
5. Fred Alan Wolf Ph.D. Physics
and 30 other more.
Unfortunately. Because the mainstream doesn't want
to help. They are all by themselves. Worse. They
don't want to help one another because of
competition from each other. As a result. Each
of them has a different theory. Only the mainstream
physics participation can put chaos into order and
move humanity forward with one united new physics
with experimental and technical support.
In my case. I still don't know which model is the
right one. I only have the experience about the
mind interactive nature of matter, etc. In other
words. I have the experience, but no theoretical
model to follow because I'm not sure which is
the right one.. yet.
Mainstream physics doesn't want to help. Each of
the new physics theoreticist are in competition.
And my struggle to understand it is getting
more frustrating day by day since I don't have
any Ph.D. like the above to arrive the principles
of the new physics myself.
If I'm so pissed off with it all. I'll just go
and grab Randi's 1M prize and then sit in the
resort of the Bermuda islands watching TV about
scientists racing to understand the physics of qi.
Yes. This seems to be the only option left for me
now.
I'm willing to pay $100,000 to anyone who can
convince US immigration to let me visit the US
to challenge and grab Randi one million after
proving to him that qi and bioetheric body
exist and paranormal is real and worthy of
mainstream scientific scrutiny and derivations
of new physics principles.
Q-on |
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| Guest |
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:36 am |
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the do it knucklehead, what are you writing for? get an invitation from
Randi and I am sure you will get you damn visa. if your application is
rejected, try again. get moving already dimwit and stop you qi
non-sense until you have shown Randi. dig that, troll? |
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| Q-on |
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:40 am |
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bryant_j_j@yahoo.com wrote:
Quote: the do it knucklehead, what are you writing for? get an invitation
from
Randi and I am sure you will get you damn visa. if your application
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rejected, try again. get moving already dimwit and stop you qi
non-sense until you have shown Randi. dig that, troll?
U.S. Immigration can't be negotiated unless you are
government official with special order. They don't
accept promisory words easily because majority of
filipinos who went to US didn't come back and became
illegal immigrants hunted by U.S. Customs. Besides why
would Randi write them when he'd suspect I just want
to go there and an become illegal immigrant. There are
no local groups affiliated with Randi in Phils so can't
do any preliminary tests here.
Anyway. In case I can't make it to U.S. I'm
willing to relinquish my million dollars. For
centuries, greed, selfishness, etc. have lurked in
the minds of men and slowed down the progress of the
human race. I've been thinking a lot yesterday and
today. If I can't make it. It's ok if you or Bjoern
get my millions (Besides, I'd only get $300,000 at
most because it has to be divided with my team).
Here's the test you can do. Pyramid structure
focus concentrated qi at the center and emitting it
upwards. Pranic healers can easily detect the energy.
So get a pranic healer or learn yourself, demonstrate
this to Randi with him putting pyramids below your
hands hidden 100 times. You can get it right 100
times or more and you can grab the millions. There
are other tests we have in mind and I'm willing to
share it to anyone. I realized that it doesn't matter
if I or others won the prize (especially considering
the U.S. embassy in Phils has super strict visa
screening that I've failed before). What is important
is qi physics become mainstream science. In times
like this. Sacrifice of personal gain is in order
in behalf of human race, progress and the future.
Q-on |
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| Guest |
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 8:22 am |
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Q-on wrote:
Quote: bryant_j_j@yahoo.com wrote:
the do it knucklehead, what are you writing for? get an invitation
from
Randi and I am sure you will get you damn visa. if your application
is
rejected, try again. get moving already dimwit and stop you qi
non-sense until you have shown Randi. dig that, troll?
U.S. Immigration can't be negotiated unless you are
government official with special order. They don't
accept promisory words easily because majority of
filipinos who went to US didn't come back and became
illegal immigrants hunted by U.S. Customs. Besides why
would Randi write them when he'd suspect I just want
to go there and an become illegal immigrant. There are
no local groups affiliated with Randi in Phils so can't
do any preliminary tests here.
shut up, stop and your non-sense and pathetic holier-than-thou attitude
you money-scamming fraud.
Quote: Anyway. In case I can't make it to U.S. I'm
willing to relinquish my million dollars. For
centuries, greed, selfishness, etc. have lurked in
the minds of men and slowed down the progress of the
human race. I've been thinking a lot yesterday and
today. If I can't make it. It's ok if you or Bjoern
get my millions (Besides, I'd only get $300,000 at
most because it has to be divided with my team).
Here's the test you can do. Pyramid structure
focus concentrated qi at the center and emitting it
upwards. Pranic healers can easily detect the energy.
So get a pranic healer or learn yourself, demonstrate
this to Randi with him putting pyramids below your
hands hidden 100 times. You can get it right 100
times or more and you can grab the millions. There
are other tests we have in mind and I'm willing to
share it to anyone. I realized that it doesn't matter
if I or others won the prize (especially considering
the U.S. embassy in Phils has super strict visa
screening that I've failed before). What is important
is qi physics become mainstream science. In times
like this. Sacrifice of personal gain is in order
in behalf of human race, progress and the future.
Q-on |
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| Sam Wormley |
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 9:18 am |
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Q-on wrote:
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Uncle Al, Sam Wormley imprisoned inside C. What is outside
C may be the true reality. Within C is just illusion. So
it's not surprising to be trapped inside illusion.
Bullshit from the unedudated Q-on. |
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| Q-on |
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:36 am |
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bryant_j_j@yahoo.com wrote:
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shut up, stop and your non-sense and pathetic holier-than-thou
attitude
you money-scamming fraud.
believe what you want, whatever will make you happy. |
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