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| fulcrum |
 Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 10:49 am |
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To start a thread on reality is a matter of inevitability, and perhaps
it has been done before. But what is reality?
Should the above question start with "What is Life?" And if I define
very broadly as a set of interconnected processes which are quasi
stable reactions and processes, which aim to find a quasi stable
state, I would say that reality, which is a perception of the
surroundings of this set of processes would perhaps be like a mosaic
of images obtained from the sense organs which are part of the
organism.
Reality should seem much more than just some bits of information from
certain viewpoints and indeed philosophies based on such viewpoints,
but indeed, these viewpoints may ot consider the full purview of the
processes occuring which constitute life and the reality that this
life has realized...
The emotional needs of man go some way in producing irrational thought
which has made man a very innovative, inventive and artistic species
(as compared to what? good question...but there's the rest of the
animals who got the ssam resources as us...). But this lack of
rational thought can cloud our reality and the cold decisions which
one has to make in the face of simple but irritating problems are
fogged.
Should we all spend more time thinking about our reality? It all
matters to one if one has a goal perhaps, so that the reality may gain
perspective, but we have o understand the nature of reality yet. What
do you think?
Regards,
Rajesh aka Fulcrum
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| John Jones |
| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 10:49 am |
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I dont have, nor have I ever had, nor will I ever, have irrational thought.
I can swear that on a stack of bibles.
Neither do I give a monkeys xmas spent with my head down a lav pan about
rational thought.
I would sooner feed Plato to the radioactive cockroaches than let it be
announced that I, or Plato, or his ancestors ever had a rational thought.
So wadja gotta sayboutdatden?
JJ
"fulcrum" <rajesh_su27@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Quote: To start a thread on reality is a matter of inevitability, and perhaps
it has been done before. But what is reality?
Should the above question start with "What is Life?" And if I define
very broadly as a set of interconnected processes which are quasi
stable reactions and processes, which aim to find a quasi stable
state, I would say that reality, which is a perception of the
surroundings of this set of processes would perhaps be like a mosaic
of images obtained from the sense organs which are part of the
organism.
Reality should seem much more than just some bits of information from
certain viewpoints and indeed philosophies based on such viewpoints,
but indeed, these viewpoints may ot consider the full purview of the
processes occuring which constitute life and the reality that this
life has realized...
The emotional needs of man go some way in producing irrational thought
which has made man a very innovative, inventive and artistic species
(as compared to what? good question...but there's the rest of the
animals who got the ssam resources as us...). But this lack of
rational thought can cloud our reality and the cold decisions which
one has to make in the face of simple but irritating problems are
fogged.
Should we all spend more time thinking about our reality? It all
matters to one if one has a goal perhaps, so that the reality may gain
perspective, but we have o understand the nature of reality yet. What
do you think?
Regards,
Rajesh aka Fulcrum
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| Frederick |
| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 12:24 pm |
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fulcrum wrote:
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To start a thread on reality is a matter of inevitability, and perhaps
it has been done before. But what is reality?
Should the above question start with "What is Life?" And if I define
very broadly as a set of interconnected processes which are quasi
stable reactions and processes, which aim to find a quasi stable
state, I would say that reality, which is a perception of the
surroundings of this set of processes would perhaps be like a mosaic
of images obtained from the sense organs which are part of the
organism.
Reality should seem much more than just some bits of information from
certain viewpoints and indeed philosophies based on such viewpoints,
but indeed, these viewpoints may ot consider the full purview of the
processes occuring which constitute life and the reality that this
life has realized...
The emotional needs of man go some way in producing irrational thought
which has made man a very innovative, inventive and artistic species
(as compared to what? good question...but there's the rest of the
animals who got the ssam resources as us...). But this lack of
rational thought can cloud our reality and the cold decisions which
one has to make in the face of simple but irritating problems are
fogged.
Should we all spend more time thinking about our reality? It all
matters to one if one has a goal perhaps, so that the reality may gain
perspective, but we have o understand the nature of reality yet. What
do you think?
Regards,
Rajesh aka Fulcrum
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Have an adequate day.
No one knows what "reality" "really' "is".
However, it appears, as far as primate folk are concerned, to be
meaningless. Thus we confabulate stories and think about them,
or, we as good minions of nature, breed.
Have enough. |
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| Emma |
| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:52 pm |
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Reality is what the Box you're trapped in wants you to experience,
respond to, be addicted to, and yes: PONDER via its rules. And there
is no escape from this, because outside the Box you would not have the
reference points, identity, and capacity of memory and thought that
the Box provides. With which to reflect upon or respond to the
experience of such an unknown "liberation" (or anarchy).
And this too, is just one of many "things" that the Box persuades one
to entertain or believe. ;-)
rajesh_su27@yahoo.com (fulcrum) wrote in message news:<90b22ba.0312260749.be6b300@posting.google.com>...
Quote: To start a thread on reality is a matter of inevitability, and perhaps
it has been done before. But what is reality?
Should the above question start with "What is Life?" And if I define
very broadly as a set of interconnected processes which are quasi
stable reactions and processes, which aim to find a quasi stable
state, I would say that reality, which is a perception of the
surroundings of this set of processes would perhaps be like a mosaic
of images obtained from the sense organs which are part of the
organism.
Reality should seem much more than just some bits of information from
certain viewpoints and indeed philosophies based on such viewpoints,
but indeed, these viewpoints may ot consider the full purview of the
processes occuring which constitute life and the reality that this
life has realized...
The emotional needs of man go some way in producing irrational thought
which has made man a very innovative, inventive and artistic species
(as compared to what? good question...but there's the rest of the
animals who got the ssam resources as us...). But this lack of
rational thought can cloud our reality and the cold decisions which
one has to make in the face of simple but irritating problems are
fogged.
Should we all spend more time thinking about our reality? It all
matters to one if one has a goal perhaps, so that the reality may gain
perspective, but we have o understand the nature of reality yet. What
do you think?
Regards,
Rajesh aka Fulcrum
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| John Jones |
| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 3:22 pm |
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We need not consider 'reality'. Reality is a hocus polucus invented by
science.
JJ
"Frederick" <mmcneill@fuzzysys.com> wrote in message
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Quote: fulcrum wrote:
To start a thread on reality is a matter of inevitability, and perhaps
it has been done before. But what is reality?
Should the above question start with "What is Life?" And if I define
very broadly as a set of interconnected processes which are quasi
stable reactions and processes, which aim to find a quasi stable
state, I would say that reality, which is a perception of the
surroundings of this set of processes would perhaps be like a mosaic
of images obtained from the sense organs which are part of the
organism.
Reality should seem much more than just some bits of information from
certain viewpoints and indeed philosophies based on such viewpoints,
but indeed, these viewpoints may ot consider the full purview of the
processes occuring which constitute life and the reality that this
life has realized...
The emotional needs of man go some way in producing irrational thought
which has made man a very innovative, inventive and artistic species
(as compared to what? good question...but there's the rest of the
animals who got the ssam resources as us...). But this lack of
rational thought can cloud our reality and the cold decisions which
one has to make in the face of simple but irritating problems are
fogged.
Should we all spend more time thinking about our reality? It all
matters to one if one has a goal perhaps, so that the reality may gain
perspective, but we have o understand the nature of reality yet. What
do you think?
Regards,
Rajesh aka Fulcrum
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Have an adequate day.
No one knows what "reality" "really' "is".
However, it appears, as far as primate folk are concerned, to be
meaningless. Thus we confabulate stories and think about them,
or, we as good minions of nature, breed.
Have enough. |
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| John Jones |
| Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 3:50 pm |
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srite
JJ
"Emma" <emma579@post.com> wrote in message
news:37a5db8.0312261152.4e11c348@posting.google.com...
Quote: Reality is what the Box you're trapped in wants you to experience,
respond to, be addicted to, and yes: PONDER via its rules. And there
is no escape from this, because outside the Box you would not have the
reference points, identity, and capacity of memory and thought that
the Box provides. With which to reflect upon or respond to the
experience of such an unknown "liberation" (or anarchy).
And this too, is just one of many "things" that the Box persuades one
to entertain or believe. ;-)
rajesh_su27@yahoo.com (fulcrum) wrote in message
news:<90b22ba.0312260749.be6b300@posting.google.com>...
To start a thread on reality is a matter of inevitability, and perhaps
it has been done before. But what is reality?
Should the above question start with "What is Life?" And if I define
very broadly as a set of interconnected processes which are quasi
stable reactions and processes, which aim to find a quasi stable
state, I would say that reality, which is a perception of the
surroundings of this set of processes would perhaps be like a mosaic
of images obtained from the sense organs which are part of the
organism.
Reality should seem much more than just some bits of information from
certain viewpoints and indeed philosophies based on such viewpoints,
but indeed, these viewpoints may ot consider the full purview of the
processes occuring which constitute life and the reality that this
life has realized...
The emotional needs of man go some way in producing irrational thought
which has made man a very innovative, inventive and artistic species
(as compared to what? good question...but there's the rest of the
animals who got the ssam resources as us...). But this lack of
rational thought can cloud our reality and the cold decisions which
one has to make in the face of simple but irritating problems are
fogged.
Should we all spend more time thinking about our reality? It all
matters to one if one has a goal perhaps, so that the reality may gain
perspective, but we have o understand the nature of reality yet. What
do you think?
Regards,
Rajesh aka Fulcrum
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| Nils-Erik Forsberg |
| Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 3:40 am |
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Today to many people do not.
On 26 Dec 2003 07:49:43 -0800, rajesh_su27@yahoo.com (fulcrum) wrote:
Quote: To start a thread on reality is a matter of inevitability, and perhaps
it has been done before. But what is reality?
Isn't that the most elementary question of all possible to answer
understandably?
Quote: Should the above question start with "What is Life?"
That is the same question as "What is reality" because it is the
question about the being i.e. something that lives and that one is a
being who have the ability to think and talk about everything
non-contradictory.
Philosophy is thinking and talking about reality.
Reality is the thing that philosophy is based on.
What could one do without reality?
Quote: And if I define
very broadly as a set of interconnected processes which are quasi
stable reactions and processes, which aim to find a quasi stable
state, I would say that reality, which is a perception of the
surroundings of this set of processes would perhaps be like a mosaic
of images obtained from the sense organs which are part of the
organism.
Which organism are the sense organs part of?
Quote: Reality should seem much more than just some bits of information from
certain viewpoints and indeed philosophies based on such viewpoints,
but indeed, these viewpoints may not consider the full purview of the
processes occuring which constitute life and the reality that this
life has realized...
Are you as a being, i.e. something living, something that acts
constituted of the acts (processes) you perform?
Quote: The emotional needs of man go some way in producing irrational thought
which has made man a very innovative, inventive and artistic species
(as compared to what? good question...but there's the rest of the
animals who got the ssam resources as us...). But this lack of
rational thought can cloud our reality and the cold decisions which
one has to make in the face of simple but irritating problems are
fogged.
If one think irrational about reality then one get an irrational
mentality, i.e. a personal mental charge and behaviour that becomes
chronic extreme cold tempered or hot tempered.
Quote: Should we all spend more time thinking about our reality? It all
matters to one if one has a goal perhaps, so that the reality may gain
perspective, but we have o understand the nature of reality yet. What
do you think?
One should think about reality and not mix that hing up with "our
reality" the personal mentality (mind) which is a result of sense
information.
That does not mean that personal mentality should be abandoned.
If one start to think about that one lives permanently embedded in the
surronding and that his whole living thing looks different for each
one who participate in the whole, then one step out of the mentality
and start to communicate as by the nature of reality.
This has been thought and talked about since historicly documented
time by some people but so far not publicly applied.
The irrational and conflict indoctrinated mentality is the only
hinder. It is noticed as protectionism, i.e. love of the personal
itrrational mental value.
It is fast done to spoil the mentality of a child so it becomes
chronic troublesome and impossible to change the mind.
Nils F |
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| Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 3:28 am |
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"Emma" <emma579@post.com> wrote in message
news:37a5db8.0312261152.4e11c348@posting.google.com...
Quote: Reality is what the Box you're trapped in wants you to experience,
respond to, be addicted to, and yes: PONDER via its rules. And there
is no escape from this, because outside the Box you would not have the
reference points, identity, and capacity of memory and thought that
the Box provides. With which to reflect upon or respond to the
experience of such an unknown "liberation" (or anarchy).
And this too, is just one of many "things" that the Box persuades one
to entertain or believe. ;-)
rajesh_su27@yahoo.com (fulcrum) wrote in message
news:<90b22ba.0312260749.be6b300@posting.google.com>...
To start a thread on reality is a matter of inevitability, and perhaps
it has been done before. But what is reality?
Should the above question start with "What is Life?" And if I define
very broadly as a set of interconnected processes which are quasi
stable reactions and processes, which aim to find a quasi stable
state, I would say that reality, which is a perception of the
surroundings of this set of processes would perhaps be like a mosaic
of images obtained from the sense organs which are part of the
organism.
Reality should seem much more than just some bits of information from
certain viewpoints and indeed philosophies based on such viewpoints,
but indeed, these viewpoints may ot consider the full purview of the
processes occuring which constitute life and the reality that this
life has realized...
The emotional needs of man go some way in producing irrational thought
which has made man a very innovative, inventive and artistic species
(as compared to what? good question...but there's the rest of the
animals who got the ssam resources as us...). But this lack of
rational thought can cloud our reality and the cold decisions which
one has to make in the face of simple but irritating problems are
fogged.
Should we all spend more time thinking about our reality? It all
matters to one if one has a goal perhaps, so that the reality may gain
perspective, but we have o understand the nature of reality yet. What
do you think?
Regards,
Rajesh aka Fulcrum
thought #1:Can anyone differentiate between 'reality' and 'perception'? The
'mind' that studies the 'brain' is liable to get lost...or is this a kind of
solipism caught in paradox (as other threads have dealt upon as of late)?
Not sure I understand that idea.
Thought #2: Another thought on this is perhaps 'reality' is the antithesis
of 'illusion'...and perhaps only upon our last breath do we find it (?). If
life is completely 'material' in composition, then I argue it must follow
that life is just another 'illusion' cast upon our senses. But then if we
know life is not an illusion, then does this prove an immaterial substance
to it's composition? Is life an 'illusion'? |
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tooly wrote:
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"Emma" <emma579@post.com> wrote in message
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Reality is what the Box you're trapped in wants you to experience,
respond to, be addicted to, and yes: PONDER via its rules. And there
is no escape from this, because outside the Box you would not have the
reference points, identity, and capacity of memory and thought that
the Box provides. With which to reflect upon or respond to the
experience of such an unknown "liberation" (or anarchy).
And this too, is just one of many "things" that the Box persuades one
to entertain or believe. ;-)
rajesh_su27@yahoo.com (fulcrum) wrote in message
news:<90b22ba.0312260749.be6b300@posting.google.com>...
To start a thread on reality is a matter of inevitability, and perhaps
it has been done before. But what is reality?
Should the above question start with "What is Life?" And if I define
very broadly as a set of interconnected processes which are quasi
stable reactions and processes, which aim to find a quasi stable
state, I would say that reality, which is a perception of the
surroundings of this set of processes would perhaps be like a mosaic
of images obtained from the sense organs which are part of the
organism.
Reality should seem much more than just some bits of information from
certain viewpoints and indeed philosophies based on such viewpoints,
but indeed, these viewpoints may ot consider the full purview of the
processes occuring which constitute life and the reality that this
life has realized...
The emotional needs of man go some way in producing irrational thought
which has made man a very innovative, inventive and artistic species
(as compared to what? good question...but there's the rest of the
animals who got the ssam resources as us...). But this lack of
rational thought can cloud our reality and the cold decisions which
one has to make in the face of simple but irritating problems are
fogged.
Should we all spend more time thinking about our reality? It all
matters to one if one has a goal perhaps, so that the reality may gain
perspective, but we have o understand the nature of reality yet. What
do you think?
Regards,
Rajesh aka Fulcrum
thought #1:Can anyone differentiate between 'reality' and 'perception'? The
'mind' that studies the 'brain' is liable to get lost...or is this a kind of
solipism caught in paradox (as other threads have dealt upon as of late)?
Not sure I understand that idea.
No. Reality is never perceived, only a brain structure based, sensor driven
virtual reality/model is perceived. "Mind" is an inferred theory in that model.
The truth of reality is "trumped" by the pragmatic fiction of the virtual reality.
Quote:
Thought #2: Another thought on this is perhaps 'reality' is the antithesis
of 'illusion'...and perhaps only upon our last breath do we find it (?). If
life is completely 'material' in composition, then I argue it must follow
that life is just another 'illusion' cast upon our senses. But then if we
know life is not an illusion, then does this prove an immaterial substance
to it's composition? Is life an 'illusion'?
Perhaps on occasion "fiction" can be more pragmatic than "truth".
Ma nature may have applied this pragmatic to we humans, thus we may
function better in the contexts of our fictions than only truths.
Our mental model virtual reality (a fiction/illusion), works better than unmediated
reflex.
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Frederick Martin McNeill
Poway, California, United States of America
mmcneill@fuzzysys.com
http://www.fuzzysys.com
http://members.cox.net/fmmcneill/
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Phrase of the week :
"There is no doubt that great revolutions of human scientific
thought will occur in the next century, and in the century after
that, and in thousands of centuries afterward. So which of our
current pet scientific dogmas will be among the first washed away
by new facts and sudden clarities?" -- Anonymous
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"fulcrum" <rajesh_su27@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Quote: To start a thread on reality is a matter of inevitability, and perhaps
it has been done before. But what is reality?
Should the above question start with "What is Life?" And if I define
very broadly as a set of interconnected processes which are quasi
stable reactions and processes, which aim to find a quasi stable
state, I would say that reality, which is a perception of the
surroundings of this set of processes would perhaps be like a mosaic
of images obtained from the sense organs which are part of the
organism.
Reality should seem much more than just some bits of information from
certain viewpoints and indeed philosophies based on such viewpoints,
but indeed, these viewpoints may ot consider the full purview of the
processes occuring which constitute life and the reality that this
life has realized...
The emotional needs of man go some way in producing irrational thought
which has made man a very innovative, inventive and artistic species
(as compared to what? good question...but there's the rest of the
animals who got the ssam resources as us...). But this lack of
rational thought can cloud our reality and the cold decisions which
one has to make in the face of simple but irritating problems are
fogged.
Should we all spend more time thinking about our reality? It all
matters to one if one has a goal perhaps, so that the reality may gain
perspective, but we have o understand the nature of reality yet. What
do you think?
Regards,
Rajesh aka Fulcrum
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Have an adequate day.
Isn't "reality" very different for a child with AIDS in Africa quite
different from/than? "reality" for Paris Hilton? Is it possible to talk
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| fulcrum |
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Perception is an interpretation or a direct measurement using a sense
organ. Suppose you are walking up to a wall judging distance all the
while from it, you call that perception. The same analogy can be
applied to all the directly measurable (sensible) matter and processes
which we all come across. Suppose you are listening to music and come
across a high pitced voice in the middle, you might "percieve" it as a
high pitched sound, but your mind "interprets" that as a shriek...so
there lies the difference. The personality gets in the way. Your mind
interprets, while your ears just do the listening.
Life is completely material, but only when we consider it to be a set
of physical processes, and perhaps that is all there is. But then
comes the question of Man being able to manipulate the world around
him and this poses the question of whether the combined
misinterpretations of the human mind should become an inherent part of
reality as such.
Reality it seems, is composed of a global reality and a reality
percieved by the sense organs and processes that form me, for my
reality, or you, for yours.
What do you think of these views?
Regards,
Rajesh aka Fulcrum
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Have an adequate day.
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Quote: "Emma" <emma579@post.com> wrote in message
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Reality is what the Box you're trapped in wants you to experience,
respond to, be addicted to, and yes: PONDER via its rules. And there
is no escape from this, because outside the Box you would not have the
reference points, identity, and capacity of memory and thought that
the Box provides. With which to reflect upon or respond to the
experience of such an unknown "liberation" (or anarchy).
And this too, is just one of many "things" that the Box persuades one
to entertain or believe. ;-)
thought #1:Can anyone differentiate between 'reality' and 'perception'? The
'mind' that studies the 'brain' is liable to get lost...or is this a kind of
solipism caught in paradox (as other threads have dealt upon as of late)?
Not sure I understand that idea.
Thought #2: Another thought on this is perhaps 'reality' is the antithesis
of 'illusion'...and perhaps only upon our last breath do we find it (?). If
life is completely 'material' in composition, then I argue it must follow
that life is just another 'illusion' cast upon our senses. But then if we
know life is not an illusion, then does this prove an immaterial substance
to it's composition? Is life an 'illusion'? |
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Hello all,
I now realize that I have propounded inherent linearities in my
arguments about reality. Now that you all have helped me dissect my
writing into misappropriations of language (very common problem) and
into view and depth of my perceptions of reality, I have to thank you
all at this point.
To continue further would be to answer the many questions posed. So:
Yes, the combination of physical processes on matter causes
information to be stored in many different ways...a set of reactions
which can combine and manipulate and interpret that data could be
called an organism. So, depending on what way the organism interprets
that data, we ahve different grades of life and consciousness, and
that is the first thing I would like to consider here.
Philosophy may indeed be thinking and talking abt reality, as reality
is all we have got, essentially.
Irrationaliy must not be asociated only with temper, but with not
making obvious decisions with the facts at hand. Of course, the
question of reality brings to our minds the very prospect of these
facts and these decisions being less than we think of them, for
instance, the information may be blurred because of the quality of
sensing or interpretation, and this is just as much a contributor to
irrational thought as is temper. So irrationality could perhaps be
called an inherent flaw in the interpreter which our mind (rather than
brain) represents. It could be a flawed sense organ too, as that can
cause similar effects.
The very reason I mentioned reality and personal goal in the same
breath was that one needs a perspective of reality to operate in a
society. Otherwise everybody will be seeking the same thing and living
for resources would be the order of the day. This is of course, the
reality of having to live in a society. Explain if you disagree with
this - I have doubts about what I just wrote in this paragraph...
I completely agree with you for the last paragraphs of your answer.
But I have this to reinstate that all the aesthetism which we humans
so treasure sometimes, like art, movies, music and theatre are but
manifested expressions of personal realities and they represented
protected realities in their own right. This would mean a very
purposeful world, and if there were eventually rationality to ruin
purpose, humans could indulge in nothing at one point and that is not
even a matter related to existence. This is what I feel abt the last
part. How are rational realities manifested? Is there something as a
rational reality at all? Is there a deterministic way of saying so?
Regards,
Rajesh aka Fulcrum
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Have an adequate day.
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prosacom@swipnet.se (Nils-Erik Forsberg) wrote in message news:<3fed436e.4212349@nntpserver.swip.net>...
Quote: Today to many people do not.
On 26 Dec 2003 07:49:43 -0800, rajesh_su27@yahoo.com (fulcrum) wrote:
To start a thread on reality is a matter of inevitability, and perhaps
it has been done before. But what is reality?
Isn't that the most elementary question of all possible to answer
understandably?
Should the above question start with "What is Life?"
That is the same question as "What is reality" because it is the
question about the being i.e. something that lives and that one is a
being who have the ability to think and talk about everything
non-contradictory.
Philosophy is thinking and talking about reality.
Reality is the thing that philosophy is based on.
What could one do without reality?
And if I define
very broadly as a set of interconnected processes which are quasi
stable reactions and processes, which aim to find a quasi stable
state, I would say that reality, which is a perception of the
surroundings of this set of processes would perhaps be like a mosaic
of images obtained from the sense organs which are part of the
organism.
Which organism are the sense organs part of?
Reality should seem much more than just some bits of information from
certain viewpoints and indeed philosophies based on such viewpoints,
but indeed, these viewpoints may not consider the full purview of the
processes occuring which constitute life and the reality that this
life has realized...
Are you as a being, i.e. something living, something that acts
constituted of the acts (processes) you perform?
The emotional needs of man go some way in producing irrational thought
which has made man a very innovative, inventive and artistic species
(as compared to what? good question...but there's the rest of the
animals who got the ssam resources as us...). But this lack of
rational thought can cloud our reality and the cold decisions which
one has to make in the face of simple but irritating problems are
fogged.
If one think irrational about reality then one get an irrational
mentality, i.e. a personal mental charge and behaviour that becomes
chronic extreme cold tempered or hot tempered.
Should we all spend more time thinking about our reality? It all
matters to one if one has a goal perhaps, so that the reality may gain
perspective, but we have o understand the nature of reality yet. What
do you think?
One should think about reality and not mix that hing up with "our
reality" the personal mentality (mind) which is a result of sense
information.
That does not mean that personal mentality should be abandoned.
If one start to think about that one lives permanently embedded in the
surronding and that his whole living thing looks different for each
one who participate in the whole, then one step out of the mentality
and start to communicate as by the nature of reality.
This has been thought and talked about since historicly documented
time by some people but so far not publicly applied.
The irrational and conflict indoctrinated mentality is the only
hinder. It is noticed as protectionism, i.e. love of the personal
itrrational mental value.
It is fast done to spoil the mentality of a child so it becomes
chronic troublesome and impossible to change the mind.
Nils F |
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