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http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/deprivat.htm
Aeons ago, 93,000,000 miles from the Sun, two forming nuclei of gas and
dust began to differentiate into distinct spheres. As these two
planetary bodies solidified and separated, the body with the greater
mass and gravity (Earth), stripped and therefore deprived the smaller
body of its atmosphere and ability to nurture and sustain life (Moon).
As the Moon moved further from its counterpart Earth in their shared and
dual orbit, its chances to ever recoup this life giving nurturance
disappeared.
Like the child's unconscious, the Moon retains the trauma and impact of
this deprivation in the form of unconscious overcompensation. Its
dispersonalized potential for development remains in the limbo state. It
reflects the reigning psychological need to nurture as the effect of
deprived participation in nurturing (Please see Needs Volume 5,
Principles and Practice of Astrology, Noel Tyl, and his more than 20
texts on astrology/psychology).
In life on Earth this nurturance and deprivation is provided by the
parental structure. Physically and therefore most notably, the mother.
The sign and house placement of the Moon in the horoscope is where we
will find this sense of nurturance deprivation belief as the effect of
maternal interaction. This archetype (sign and house placement of the
Moon) then establishes for the astrologer the reigning psychological
need of the personality. The aspects tie in and bring other planets as
parameters of fulfillment of this reigning need. All factors within the
horoscope, including the Sun, work to fill this deprivation void. The
identity then finds emotional security through the fulfillment of these
needs, which continues with the parameters rising to higher and higher
levels. Where Saturn is we are satur-ated with the archetype involved.
Where the Moon is we need to absorb and nurture the archetype. Deprive
means to "remove or withhold something from the enjoyment or possession
of". Where the moon is we feel deprived, the archetype which we believe
our mother failed to nurture us with. This corresponds to The response
deprivation theory of reinforcement proposed by William Timberlake and
James Allison (1974: Timberlake 1980) in psychology. That behavior
becomes reinforcing when the organism is prevented from engaging in it.
The more empowered an individual believes themselves to be, the less
negative will be the expression of the reigning need. Self-empowerment
being defined as the ability to create whatever is desired by the
identity without having to act out of integrity. It is the fulfillment
of the reigning needs that allows the nurturing of the perceived
Archetype deprivation. The Moon serves the Sun and acts as a filter
through which the Sun sign is distributed. This distribution finds
fulfillment and support through sextiles and trines, because they
reflect the positive aspects of belief maintained by the identity. The
need to resolve aspects of other archetypes (other planets and signs) is
brought into developmental need fulfillment and resolution through the
squares and oppositions because these are the areas of negative or
dis-empowering beliefs maintained by the identity. Tension as well as
resolution are required for growth. This is why we teach best what we
are learning.
The following definitions indicate an individuals overcompensatory
reigning need in response to perceived maternal deprivation.
Fire Moon signs (Aries, Leo, Sagittarius) reflect the need for
energetic ego recognition and a fear of being ignored; Earth: functional
and practical efficiency and adequacy, with a fear of losing control;
Air: social acceptance and a fear of being unappreciated; and Water
emotion (energy- motion) and a fear of being taken advantage of. There
is no such thing as "just feeling" a certain way, a feeling is a
reaction to a belief. We must believe a certain way before we have a
feeling about it. A fear therefore is a belief. We create our reality by
what we believe. Fearing something will happen, heightens the
probability that it will, until trust replaces the fear. Understanding
the self leads us to this trust.
Cardinal sign moons (Aries, Cancer, Libra, Capricorn) believe action
and assertion has been deprived. Fixed (Taurus, Leo, Scorpio, Aquarius)
believe structure and accumulation (some form of power) has. And Mutable
(Gemini, Virgo, Sagittarius, Pisces) believe that they have been
deprived of change and learning.
With the moon in Aries the reigning need is to be ego important and
first. To nurture the pioneering sense. To trust natural aggression.
Bette Davis, Marlon Brando, Jaqueline Onassis.
The moon in Taurus' reigning need is to build and maintain a structure.
To nurture stability and accumulate security.
Bill Clinton, Shakespeare, Mick Jagger.
In Gemini to be thought of as diverse, knowledgeable and intelligent, as
an effect of diversity deprivation.
Farrah Fawcette, Sigmund Freud, Fred Astair.
In Cancer the reigning need is for emotional security itself. This may
be the sign of adoption or the loss of the mother at an early age, or in
some other way she was exceedingly important in the identity's
development.
Dr. Benjamin Spock, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Ross Perot.
The Leo moon has a reigning need to be dramatically ego important. The
performance of the identity is believed to have been ignored.
Peter Ustinov, Barbara Streisand, Mahatma Gandhi.
Virgo-To be correct and proper on a less aware level, or to be
analytically correct through discernment on a more expanded level, is
the reigning need of this moon. Or correct in practical terms.
John F. Kennedy, Joseph Stalin, Oprah Winfrey.
Libra-Social acceptance is the reigning need of the moon in Libra.
Appreciation through popularity. There can be a superficial focus on the
acceptability of behavior.
Sylvester Stallone, Billy Joel, Katherine Hepburn.
Scorpio-A strong need for emotional significance can lead to obsessive
behavior or strong devotion. The fear of being taken advantage of is
strong in this sign.
Harry Truman, Elizabeth Taylor, Julie Andrews.
Sagittarius-To have the beliefs, opinions, intellect and ideas accepted
by others is the way this moon seeks ego importance. The identity's
fears of being ignored may be too close to the opinions it holds.
Pablo Picasso, Albert Einstein, Johannes Brahms.
Capricorn-Strategic effectiveness, and an impact on the world and
physical reality, is believed to have been denied. Overcompensation
ensues in this direction as the reigning need. This position is usually
associated with some early environmental limitation that deprived the
identity from full expression.
Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, Adolf Hitler.
Aquarius-Needs are fulfilled through being recognized for ones unique
attributes and contribution to society. Needs appreciation for helping
humanity or being a good friend.
Richard Wagner, Richard Nixon, Marilyn Monroe.
Picses-The reigning need of this moon is to be recognized as
compassionate, sensitive, and self-sacrificing. The concept that was
believed taken advantage of was the sensitivity to self.
Martin Luther King, O.J. Simpson, Benjamin Franklin.
The following examples definitely reveal the individual's reigning
needs. The first is a male born June 18, 1942, 2:38 am 002w55, 53n25.
The element count shows relative balance except for a low count in water
(2 points for Sun/Moon 1 point for all other planets). There may be an
inclination to take things too personally, and with the Aries ascendent
and Mars/Pluto/Moon conjunction, a bit pushy. However, Venus in Taurus
is in its natural house and sign. This would tend to social grace and
passivity (as well as material prosperity). All the planets are below
the horizon and there are no oppositions. There would be a push to
externalize the self , first to empathize with others (water reference),
and second because there is great self worth and social insecurity
reflected by the Moon in five (love given) square Venus in two (self
worth, and Venus rules the seventh, social acceptance). Saturn conjunct
Uranus in two also reflects upon the worth profile (the fear that
uniqueness in diversity will not be recognized).
The reigning need Moon in Leo is to be dramatically ego important.
Performance is part of that need. The Moon is in five (the natural Leo
house) conjunct Pluto (personal perspective) and Mars (the need to prove
the identity's validity, rules the first) and is the ruler of the fourth
and fifth houses (the early environment, the mother, and the fifth is
creative extension just like Leo!). The Sun (life energy and dispositor
of the Leo planets), Mercury (the way he needs to think), Saturn (fears
to overcome), and Uranus (individuality recognition) are all in Gemini.
The Sun is square Neptune, developmental tension with the life energy to
communicate (Gemini and third house) and the artistic or musical
(Neptune) is brought into the stellium in Leo and five back to the
reigning need through the Sun's dispositorship of the Leo planets. The
way this is resolved is through the two twelfth house rulers (Uranus and
Neptune) trine from two (worth) to six (work). This person must create,
express and perform. Saturn rules ten and is in two. The greatest fear
is not being appreciated for the intelligence. Writing could be the
career. Self worth is fulfilled through giving love and creations, a
romantic. The mother had a powerful effect on this life direction and is
the primary emotional link (Jupiter in Cancer exalted on the fourth
house cusp). Creating fulfills an emotional void. This is the horoscope
of one of the most prolific and consistently popular singer/songwriters
in history, Paul McCartney. Pluto is associated with generational
consciousness, its conjunction with this reigning need allowed him to
fulfill it while connecting with a generational perspective to make him
one of the most popular (along with the Beatles) performers of all time.
Pluto rules the eighth, others values, money and the transformation of
perspective, in the sign of the "do your own thing", and creative
extension generation.
In the second ring are the planetary positions when as a Beatle he
appeared on the "Ed Sullivan Show" on February 9,1964. The Sun (Leo in
five), Mars (the ascending sign), and Saturn (ruling ten-status, and
eleven-the future and income from career) are all trining the natal Sun
(rules all the Leo planets in five) from twelve (others perspective).
Transiting Jupiter has just crossed the ascendent (opportunity) and
trined all the Leo planets in five. Transit Uranus (ruling twelve) is
retrograding back over the node (new beginning in work). Transit Venus
(music and money) opposes Neptune (music) from six to twelve
(perspective), and transit Neptune opposes Venus from eight to two
(money)! There was some deception financially here it appears also.
Chart number two is a male born March 14, 1879, 11:26am, 010e00, 48n24.
The Moon rules the ascendent and is conjunct the sixth house cusp in
Sagittarius. The reigning need is to have the intellect and opinions
respected (Sagittarius) for their analytical correctness or discernment
(sixth cusp is like Virgo). The Moon's ruler Jupiter (expansive ideas)
is in the ninth house (expansive ideas) in Aquarius (the avant garde or
forward garde, uniqueness), and opposes Uranus (same connotation) in
Virgo (analytical discernment!) from the ninth to third houses, (the
mental axis) ruled by Mercury (mental set) in Aries (pioneering new
directions) conjunct Saturn (focused application). Saturn and Mars are
in mutual reception reflecting great concentration, discipline, and
effort (Saturn conjunct Mercury and Mars disposing of Mercury). Pluto
squares the Jupiter/Uranus opposition from eleven, creating a T-square
that discharges into the fifth house. He had great remorse over the
creation of the atomic bomb. The Sun sextiles Pluto and Mars and rules
the third house (mind). It is elevated in the tenth. Who is more known
for the manifestation of mind than Albert Einstein? His reigning need
was nurtured very well. When he published his theory of relativity in
1905, his perspective was so expanded that it would be 14 years before
the scientific community could confirm them! His publications coincided
with the Uranus/Neptune opposition (the avant garde needs resolution
with other worldly perspective, and the disruption of illusions). The
opposition was exactly on his ascendant/descendant horizon (identity).
He shattered the smugness of the scientific community. He was the
Uranus/Neptune opposition!
In the second ring are the transits for the morning of November 8,
1919, when he awoke to worldwide recognition from the confirmation of
those theories. Transit Jupiter, dispositor of the reigning need is
exactly trine Venus in the tenth, and the Moon on the sixth, from two. A
Fire Grand Trine reflecting great inspirational self-sufficiency and
identity affirmation. Neptune, his Sun sign ruler, joins in this Grand
Trine along with Mercury, which brings his natal Mercury/Saturn
conjunction in as well. Transit Uranus is exactly conjunct Jupiter in
nine! A tremendous triggering of the expansive networks discussed in the
natal promise.
He above all, lead us to the recognition of how little we use our
abilities and creative potential. With Cancer on the ascendant and the
ruler, the Moon, in Sagittarius, it is no wonder that he is remembered
for having said that "Imagination is more important than knowledge." Our
sense of lack, leads this imagination to fulfill deprivation perceived
or real, and there would be no manifestation in physical reality
(Capricorn) without it. As John F. Kennedy said "We choose to go to the
Moon in this decade and do the other things not because they are easy,
but because they are hard." Imagination may not make them easy, but it
makes them real.
Like the snake sheds its skin, the Moon in developmental cycle (the
phases) sheds its shadow. It is this reflection and affirmation of life
and its progression that the feminine side of polarity pairs (the other
being the Sun), illuminates. This is the reason Eve (in the garden of
Eden) was offered the fruit from the tree of knowledge by the serpent.
The Moon reflects our need to image in or to create the fulfillment of
our imagined personality. We visualize ourselves into the image we
believe we were cut off from. We then become that image. What we imagine
ourselves to be in the fourth house and Cancer, becomes the externalized
version in the tenth house and Capricorn. What do we prefer to image in?
We may seek our place in the Sun- but it is on the Moon that we actually
land.
Bibliography
Skinner, B. F.. About Behaviorism. New York, 1974.
Chance, Paul. Learning and Behavior. California, 1994.
Tyl, Noel. Holistic Astrology. Virginia, 1980.
Tyl, Noel. The Principles and Practice of Astrology, a 12 Volume series,
Llewellyn, first edition 1972
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Edmond H. Wollmann P.M.A.F.A.
© 2003 Altair Publications, SAN 299-5603
Astrological Consulting http://www.astroconsulting.com/
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 12:26 pm |
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Edmond Wollmann <arcturianone@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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1. Recent theories suggest that the Moon was formed by a collision between
the proto-Earth and an object with a size similar to Mars.
2. How can you know that the Earth-Sun distance didn't change since then?
You're such an idiot, Edmo. |
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Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 7:49 pm |
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In article <3FCA2832.7340@earthlink.net>, Edmond Wollmann <arcturianone@earthlink.net> wrote:
Quote: Charts
Aeons ago, 93,000,000 miles from the Sun, two forming nuclei of gas and
dust began to differentiate into distinct spheres. As these two
planetary bodies solidified and separated, the body with the greater
mass and gravity (Earth), stripped and therefore deprived the smaller
body of its atmosphere and ability to nurture and sustain life (Moon).
As the Moon moved further from its counterpart Earth in their shared and
dual orbit, its chances to ever recoup this life giving nurturance
disappeared.
Like the child's unconscious, the Moon retains the trauma and impact of
this deprivation in the form of unconscious overcompensation.
Total horseshit.
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 2:22 am |
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"Edmond Wollmann" <arcturianone@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Quote: Charts
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/deprivat.htm
Aeons ago, 93,000,000 miles from the Sun, two forming nuclei of gas and
dust began to differentiate into distinct spheres. As these two
planetary bodies solidified and separated, the body with the greater
mass and gravity (Earth), stripped ....
What a load of bollocks fuckwit!
What the hell are you doing here anyway tosser? You promised to leave Usenet
so go away you irritating little worm (appologies to any real worms reading
this, you are way abouve on the evolutionary scale). |
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"martin" <martin_nospam@btinternet.com> wrote in
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Quote:
"Edmond Wollmann" <arcturianone@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Charts
http://www.astroconsulting.com/FAQs/deprivat.htm
Aeons ago, 93,000,000 miles from the Sun, two forming nuclei of gas
and dust began to differentiate into distinct spheres. As these two
planetary bodies solidified and separated, the body with the greater
mass and gravity (Earth), stripped ....
What a load of bollocks fuckwit!
What the hell are you doing here anyway tosser? You promised to leave
Usenet so go away you irritating little worm (apologies to any real
worms reading this, you are way above on the evolutionary scale).
Eddieeeeee lied. He has been known to do that. It's about the only thing
you can trust Edmo to do besides fail at everything.
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alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych.
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Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2003 5:06 pm |
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In article <3FCA2832.7340@earthlink.net>,
Edmond Wollmann <arcturianone@earthlink.net> wrote:
Can you be more specific?
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