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KublaiKhan
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 12:03 pm
Guest
By O'Shea. Please let me know if you have a copy that you no longer
use and would like to get some money for. Thanks.
Bob May
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 4:05 pm
Guest
What are you willing to pay? The book is available new for about $86 at
Amazon.

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Bob May
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Works evevery time it is tried!
West Coast Engineering
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:25 pm
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"Bob May" <bobmay@nethere.com> wrote:

Quote:
What are you willing to pay? The book is available new for about $86 at
Amazon.

It is not worth $86.00. It is not worth $26.00. It is an out dated
book by a has been optics guy.
Mike Jones
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 10:18 am
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KublaiKhan wrote:

Quote:
By O'Shea. Please let me know if you have a copy that you no longer
use and would like to get some money for. Thanks.

Unless you just have to have O'Shea's book for some reason, you might
check out Joseph Geary's new book "Introduction to Lens Design"
instead. You can buy it at http://www.willbell.com/

I also bought Gregory Halloran Smith's book "Practical Computer Aided
Lens Design", but of the two I think Geary's book is better overall.
Mike
KublaiKhan
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 11:43 am
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West Coast Engineering <westcoastengineering@westcoastengineering.com> wrote in message news:<uad6qvkia2i5bc9d61g41m11fa6icccs2t@4ax.com>...
Quote:
"Bob May" <bobmay@nethere.com> wrote:

What are you willing to pay? The book is available new for about $86 at
Amazon.

It is not worth $86.00. It is not worth $26.00. It is an out dated
book by a has been optics guy.

Look, I don't see why you need to resort to personal attacks.
I have no formal training in optics but have used Siegman's Paraxia to
design and successfully construct a laser cavity previously.
I have checked out from the library (1) Optical System Design - Allen
Nussbaum, (2)Same title - Rudolf Kingslake, & (3) the O'Shea book. Of
the three I find the last one most instructive. Unfortunately, it is
continually on hold with the extra library copies listed as missing. I
was looking to pay $50 or so for a used copy but am open to
suggestions on other books or online tutorials. I have a scanning
system designed with OSLO and I'm trying to optimize the design with
some knowledge of what the various parameters mean.
Geary's book, suggested by another poster (thanks!), is very
affordably priced but seems oriented towards users of Zemax. I have no
experience with Zemax. I have downloaded the free versions of both
Zemax and OSLO and find the latter to be more intuitive and the
documentation to be more helpful.
West Coast Engineering
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 12:08 pm
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birky99@hotmail.com (KublaiKhan) wrote:

Quote:
West Coast Engineering <westcoastengineering@westcoastengineering.com> wrote in message news:<uad6qvkia2i5bc9d61g41m11fa6icccs2t@4ax.com>...
"Bob May" <bobmay@nethere.com> wrote:

What are you willing to pay? The book is available new for about $86 at
Amazon.

It is not worth $86.00. It is not worth $26.00. It is an out dated
book by a has been optics guy.

Look, I don't see why you need to resort to personal attacks.
I have no formal training in optics but have used Siegman's Paraxia to
design and successfully construct a laser cavity previously.
I have checked out from the library (1) Optical System Design - Allen
Nussbaum, (2)Same title - Rudolf Kingslake, & (3) the O'Shea book. Of
the three I find the last one most instructive. Unfortunately, it is
continually on hold with the extra library copies listed as missing. I
was looking to pay $50 or so for a used copy but am open to
suggestions on other books or online tutorials. I have a scanning
system designed with OSLO and I'm trying to optimize the design with
some knowledge of what the various parameters mean.
Geary's book, suggested by another poster (thanks!), is very
affordably priced but seems oriented towards users of Zemax. I have no
experience with Zemax. I have downloaded the free versions of both
Zemax and OSLO and find the latter to be more intuitive and the
documentation to be more helpful.

As an optics book goes, O'Shea's is OK but it is terribly dated, being
written when PCs were running at 4.88 Mhz and Cool Genie and OSLO were
the only codes available and those without lots of money stood on the
side lines and wished thay had a design program to use.

The most useful books are:

The optical design books by Warren Smith and Milt Lakin because they
provide wonderful "starting points" and without good starting points
you are always at a disadvantage.

I agree, OSLO is a far better code than ZEMAX and in fact there is no
comparison. OSLO is for serious people who need the correct answers
from code based on solid and well tested algorithms and behind which
stand extrememly friendly and knowledgable support people whereas
ZEMAX is for ( well maybe I won't go there this time).

Sincerely,

West Coast Engineering
DE
Posted: Sun Nov 02, 2003 2:45 pm
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KublaiKhan wrote:
Quote:
West Coast Engineering <westcoastengineering@westcoastengineering.com> wrote in message news:<uad6qvkia2i5bc9d61g41m11fa6icccs2t@4ax.com>...

"Bob May" <bobmay@nethere.com> wrote:


What are you willing to pay? The book is available new for about $86 at
Amazon.

It is not worth $86.00. It is not worth $26.00. It is an out dated
book by a has been optics guy.


Look, I don't see why you need to resort to personal attacks.
I have no formal training in optics but have used Siegman's Paraxia to
design and successfully construct a laser cavity previously.
I have checked out from the library (1) Optical System Design - Allen
Nussbaum, (2)Same title - Rudolf Kingslake, & (3) the O'Shea book. Of
the three I find the last one most instructive. Unfortunately, it is
continually on hold with the extra library copies listed as missing. I
was looking to pay $50 or so for a used copy but am open to
suggestions on other books or online tutorials.

Have you tried that "Techbooks" place that advertises all books 1/2 off?
I haven't been there, but went past it recently and I have no clue if
it has what you want or not.

But the other spot, for SURE, is Powell's in Portland. They'll even do
things on-line if you never get down there, including looking for it for
you.

-- DE
West Coast Engineering
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:34 am
Guest
I use OPAMP in Los Angeles. www.opamp.com.

They can get a book fast for a fee which is many times the way I need
one for work.
DCS
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 9:27 am
Guest
I'm pretty sure that I have an extra copy that I can sell to you. Please
send me an email off-line. Notwithstanding some of the previous comments,
this is a good introduction, meant for people who work outside of
geometrical optics (e.g. lasers).

-Doug Sinclair


"KublaiKhan" <birky99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
By O'Shea. Please let me know if you have a copy that you no longer
use and would like to get some money for. Thanks.
KublaiKhan
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 1:40 pm
Guest
"DCS" <ccs@sinopt.com> wrote in message news:<7HOpb.1864$1N3.791@twister.nyroc.rr.com>...
Quote:
I'm pretty sure that I have an extra copy that I can sell to you. Please
send me an email off-line. Notwithstanding some of the previous comments,
this is a good introduction, meant for people who work outside of
geometrical optics (e.g. lasers).

-Doug Sinclair

Hi Doug, mail to you bounces. Please email me with info on the

condition of the copy you have, price, etc. Thanks.
 
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