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GreenXenon...
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:42 am
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Hi:

I have speculative neuroscience question.

Let’s say that the PSTSNs in my body – and the ADFNs supplying them --
don’t have any refractory period or any other protections against
hyper-excitability.

PSTSN = Peripheral Somatic Tactile Sensory Nerve

ADFN = A-Delta-Fiber-Nociceptor

Non-ADFN = Sensory-receptor/nerve-ending that is not an ADFN or the
portion of a nerve that is attached to such a sensory-receptor/nerve-
ending

ADFNPSTSN = A-Delta-Fiber-Nociceptor supplying a PSTSN

PSTSNNon-ADFN = A non-ADFN supplying a PSTSN

Tactile = Pertaining only to sense of touch [including temperature,
pressure, pain, tickle, vibrations, movement, etc.]. *Not* including
any visual, auditory, gustatory, olfactory perceptions or any
sensations associated with the sense of balance.

Peripheral = pertaining only to the peripheral nervous system and not
the central nervous system.

Somatic = pertaining only to the somatic nervous system and not the
visceral, autonomic, or enteric nervous systems

Let’s say a mysterious entity decides to stimulate all the ADFNPSTSNs
in my body to the maximum extent possible [in terms of extent to which
an ADFNPSTSN is stimulated, how many ADFNPSTSNs per area are
stimulated, and duration of stimulation] – without damaging any of my
PSTSNs or their ADFNs, exceeding the maximum threshold of sensory
feedback, or overloading the rest of my nervous system.

During the ADFNPSTSN-excitement, the mystical entity also temporarily
disconnects –without damaging – any PSTSNNon-ADFNs from my PSTSNs at
the same time and at the same rate and amount at which it stimulates
my ADFNPSTSNs. This disconnection is physically-harmless but causes my
PSTSNNon-ADFNs to be completely unable to communicate with my PSTSNs
until reconnection.

In this hypothetical scenario, the ADFNPSTSN-excitement and
simultaneous PSTSNNon-ADFN-disconnection do not occur suddenly or in a
flash. They take place in a gradual, smooth, and sine-wave-like manner
-- in terms of extent to which an ADFNPSTSN is stimulated, how many
ADFNPSTSNs per area are stimulated, and how many PSTSNNon-ADFNs per
area are disconnected from their PSTSNs. Hence there is no hint of a
startle response at any level.

What symptoms will I experience as a result of this extreme ADFNPSTSN
excitement with simultaneous PSTSNNon-ADFN disconnection?


Thanks
 
J.A. Legris...
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:27 pm
Guest
On Jun 28, 11:42 am, GreenXenon <glucege... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:b65fde4af0]Hi:

I have speculative neuroscience question.

Let’s say that the PSTSNs in my body – and the ADFNs supplying them --
don’t have any refractory period or any other protections against
hyper-excitability.

PSTSN = Peripheral Somatic Tactile Sensory Nerve

ADFN = A-Delta-Fiber-Nociceptor

Non-ADFN = Sensory-receptor/nerve-ending that is not an ADFN or the
portion of a nerve that is attached to such a sensory-receptor/nerve-
ending

ADFNPSTSN = A-Delta-Fiber-Nociceptor supplying a PSTSN

PSTSNNon-ADFN = A non-ADFN supplying a PSTSN

Tactile = Pertaining only to sense of touch [including temperature,
pressure, pain, tickle, vibrations, movement, etc.]. *Not* including
any visual, auditory, gustatory, olfactory perceptions or any
sensations associated with the sense of balance.

Peripheral = pertaining only to the peripheral nervous system and not
the central nervous system.

Somatic = pertaining only to the somatic nervous system and not the
visceral, autonomic, or enteric nervous systems

Let’s say a mysterious entity decides to stimulate all the ADFNPSTSNs
in my body to the maximum extent possible [in terms of extent to which
an ADFNPSTSN is stimulated, how many ADFNPSTSNs per area are
stimulated, and duration of stimulation] – without damaging any of my
PSTSNs or their ADFNs, exceeding the maximum threshold of sensory
feedback, or overloading the rest of my nervous system.

During the ADFNPSTSN-excitement, the mystical entity also temporarily
disconnects –without damaging – any PSTSNNon-ADFNs from my PSTSNs at
the same time and at the same rate and amount at which it stimulates
my ADFNPSTSNs. This disconnection is physically-harmless but causes my
PSTSNNon-ADFNs to be completely unable to communicate with my PSTSNs
until reconnection.

In this hypothetical scenario, the ADFNPSTSN-excitement and
simultaneous PSTSNNon-ADFN-disconnection do not occur suddenly or in a
flash. They take place in a gradual, smooth, and sine-wave-like manner
-- in terms of extent to which an ADFNPSTSN is stimulated, how many
ADFNPSTSNs per area are stimulated, and how many PSTSNNon-ADFNs per
area are disconnected from their PSTSNs. Hence there is no hint of a
startle response at any level.

What symptoms will I experience as a result of this extreme ADFNPSTSN
excitement with simultaneous PSTSNNon-ADFN disconnection?

Thanks
[/quote:b65fde4af0]
Oh yes, EADFNPSTSNEWSPSTSNNon-ADFND. It feels like someone is pulling
your leg.
--
Joe
 
GreenXenon...
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:38 pm
Guest
On Jun 28, 8:27 pm, "J.A. Legris" <jaleg... at (no spam) sympatico.ca> wrote:


[quote:482b6b239b]Oh yes, EADFNPSTSNEWSPSTSNNon-ADFND. It feels like someone is pulling
your leg.
[/quote:482b6b239b]

Huh?
 
BOfL...
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 9:18 pm
Guest
On Jun 28, 11:42 pm, GreenXenon <glucege... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:a5e0756947]Hi:

I have speculative neuroscience question.

Let’s say that the PSTSNs in my body – and the ADFNs supplying them --
don’t have any refractory period or any other protections against
hyper-excitability.

PSTSN = Peripheral Somatic Tactile Sensory Nerve

ADFN = A-Delta-Fiber-Nociceptor

Non-ADFN = Sensory-receptor/nerve-ending that is not an ADFN or the
portion of a nerve that is attached to such a sensory-receptor/nerve-
ending

ADFNPSTSN = A-Delta-Fiber-Nociceptor supplying a PSTSN

PSTSNNon-ADFN = A non-ADFN supplying a PSTSN

Tactile = Pertaining only to sense of touch [including temperature,
pressure, pain, tickle, vibrations, movement, etc.]. *Not* including
any visual, auditory, gustatory, olfactory perceptions or any
sensations associated with the sense of balance.

Peripheral = pertaining only to the peripheral nervous system and not
the central nervous system.

Somatic = pertaining only to the somatic nervous system and not the
visceral, autonomic, or enteric nervous systems

Let’s say a mysterious entity decides to stimulate all the ADFNPSTSNs
in my body to the maximum extent possible [in terms of extent to which
an ADFNPSTSN is stimulated, how many ADFNPSTSNs per area are
stimulated, and duration of stimulation] – without damaging any of my
PSTSNs or their ADFNs, exceeding the maximum threshold of sensory
feedback, or overloading the rest of my nervous system.

During the ADFNPSTSN-excitement, the mystical entity also temporarily
disconnects –without damaging – any PSTSNNon-ADFNs from my PSTSNs at
the same time and at the same rate and amount at which it stimulates
my ADFNPSTSNs. This disconnection is physically-harmless but causes my
PSTSNNon-ADFNs to be completely unable to communicate with my PSTSNs
until reconnection.

In this hypothetical scenario, the ADFNPSTSN-excitement and
simultaneous PSTSNNon-ADFN-disconnection do not occur suddenly or in a
flash. They take place in a gradual, smooth, and sine-wave-like manner
-- in terms of extent to which an ADFNPSTSN is stimulated, how many
ADFNPSTSNs per area are stimulated, and how many PSTSNNon-ADFNs per
area are disconnected from their PSTSNs. Hence there is no hint of a
startle response at any level.

What symptoms will I experience as a result of this extreme ADFNPSTSN
excitement with simultaneous PSTSNNon-ADFN disconnection?

Thanks
[/quote:a5e0756947]
Thank you for identifying the various components. Thank heavens for
acronyms..

(as an aside, how does the Chinese language ever manage without the
convenience of acronyms?:-)

As technical as the question is, it really boils down to the question,
' why am I made the way I am, and for what reason'?

The whole can never be identifyed by discecting and therefor
identifying a greater number of 'sums of parts', even though the
exercise would no doubt be very stimulating.

Physiology is not psychology...stating the obvious, and never the
twain shall meet.

BOfL
 
Don Stockbauer...
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:25 am
Guest
On Jun 29, 2:18 am, BOfL <bigflet... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:79b8343581]On Jun 28, 11:42 pm, GreenXenon <glucege... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:



Hi:

I have speculative neuroscience question.

Let’s say that the PSTSNs in my body – and the ADFNs supplying them --
don’t have any refractory period or any other protections against
hyper-excitability.

PSTSN = Peripheral Somatic Tactile Sensory Nerve

ADFN = A-Delta-Fiber-Nociceptor

Non-ADFN = Sensory-receptor/nerve-ending that is not an ADFN or the
portion of a nerve that is attached to such a sensory-receptor/nerve-
ending

ADFNPSTSN = A-Delta-Fiber-Nociceptor supplying a PSTSN

PSTSNNon-ADFN = A non-ADFN supplying a PSTSN

Tactile = Pertaining only to sense of touch [including temperature,
pressure, pain, tickle, vibrations, movement, etc.]. *Not* including
any visual, auditory, gustatory, olfactory perceptions or any
sensations associated with the sense of balance.

Peripheral = pertaining only to the peripheral nervous system and not
the central nervous system.

Somatic = pertaining only to the somatic nervous system and not the
visceral, autonomic, or enteric nervous systems

Let’s say a mysterious entity decides to stimulate all the ADFNPSTSNs
in my body to the maximum extent possible [in terms of extent to which
an ADFNPSTSN is stimulated, how many ADFNPSTSNs per area are
stimulated, and duration of stimulation] – without damaging any of my
PSTSNs or their ADFNs, exceeding the maximum threshold of sensory
feedback, or overloading the rest of my nervous system.

During the ADFNPSTSN-excitement, the mystical entity also temporarily
disconnects –without damaging – any PSTSNNon-ADFNs from my PSTSNs at
the same time and at the same rate and amount at which it stimulates
my ADFNPSTSNs. This disconnection is physically-harmless but causes my
PSTSNNon-ADFNs to be completely unable to communicate with my PSTSNs
until reconnection.

In this hypothetical scenario, the ADFNPSTSN-excitement and
simultaneous PSTSNNon-ADFN-disconnection do not occur suddenly or in a
flash. They take place in a gradual, smooth, and sine-wave-like manner
-- in terms of extent to which an ADFNPSTSN is stimulated, how many
ADFNPSTSNs per area are stimulated, and how many PSTSNNon-ADFNs per
area are disconnected from their PSTSNs. Hence there is no hint of a
startle response at any level.

What symptoms will I experience as a result of this extreme ADFNPSTSN
excitement with simultaneous PSTSNNon-ADFN disconnection?

Thanks

Thank you for identifying the various components. Thank heavens for
acronyms..

(as an aside, how does the Chinese language ever manage without the
convenience of acronyms?:-)

As technical as the question is, it really boils down to the question,
' why am I made the way I am, and for what reason'?

The whole can never be identifyed by discecting and therefor
identifying a greater number of 'sums of parts', even though the
exercise would no doubt be very stimulating.

Physiology is not psychology...stating the obvious, and never the
twain shall meet.
[/quote:79b8343581]
Just like 9/11, it's all an emergency.
 
GreenXenon...
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:52 am
Guest
On Jun 29, 12:18 am, BOfL <bigflet... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:144d54e252]On Jun 28, 11:42 pm, GreenXenon <glucege... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:



Hi:

I have speculative neuroscience question.

Let’s say that the PSTSNs in my body – and the ADFNs supplying them --
don’t have any refractory period or any other protections against
hyper-excitability.

PSTSN = Peripheral Somatic Tactile Sensory Nerve

ADFN = A-Delta-Fiber-Nociceptor

Non-ADFN = Sensory-receptor/nerve-ending that is not an ADFN or the
portion of a nerve that is attached to such a sensory-receptor/nerve-
ending

ADFNPSTSN = A-Delta-Fiber-Nociceptor supplying a PSTSN

PSTSNNon-ADFN = A non-ADFN supplying a PSTSN

Tactile = Pertaining only to sense of touch [including temperature,
pressure, pain, tickle, vibrations, movement, etc.]. *Not* including
any visual, auditory, gustatory, olfactory perceptions or any
sensations associated with the sense of balance.

Peripheral = pertaining only to the peripheral nervous system and not
the central nervous system.

Somatic = pertaining only to the somatic nervous system and not the
visceral, autonomic, or enteric nervous systems

Let’s say a mysterious entity decides to stimulate all the ADFNPSTSNs
in my body to the maximum extent possible [in terms of extent to which
an ADFNPSTSN is stimulated, how many ADFNPSTSNs per area are
stimulated, and duration of stimulation] – without damaging any of my
PSTSNs or their ADFNs, exceeding the maximum threshold of sensory
feedback, or overloading the rest of my nervous system.

During the ADFNPSTSN-excitement, the mystical entity also temporarily
disconnects –without damaging – any PSTSNNon-ADFNs from my PSTSNs at
the same time and at the same rate and amount at which it stimulates
my ADFNPSTSNs. This disconnection is physically-harmless but causes my
PSTSNNon-ADFNs to be completely unable to communicate with my PSTSNs
until reconnection.

In this hypothetical scenario, the ADFNPSTSN-excitement and
simultaneous PSTSNNon-ADFN-disconnection do not occur suddenly or in a
flash. They take place in a gradual, smooth, and sine-wave-like manner
-- in terms of extent to which an ADFNPSTSN is stimulated, how many
ADFNPSTSNs per area are stimulated, and how many PSTSNNon-ADFNs per
area are disconnected from their PSTSNs. Hence there is no hint of a
startle response at any level.

What symptoms will I experience as a result of this extreme ADFNPSTSN
excitement with simultaneous PSTSNNon-ADFN disconnection?

Thanks

Thank you for identifying the various components. Thank heavens for
acronyms..

(as an aside, how does the Chinese language ever manage without the
convenience of acronyms?:-)

As technical as the question is, it really boils down to the question,
' why am I made the way I am, and for what reason'?

The whole can never be identifyed by discecting and therefor
identifying a greater number of 'sums of parts', even though the
exercise would no doubt be very stimulating.

Physiology is not psychology...stating the obvious, and never the
twain shall meet.

BOfL
[/quote:144d54e252]

From what scientists currently know, what symptoms would I experience
in the hypothetical scenario I described in the 1st post of this
thread?
 
GreenXenon...
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:53 am
Guest
On Jun 29, 4:25 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:


[quote:3bd73cb497]Just like 9/11, it's all an emergency.
[/quote:3bd73cb497]

How so?
 
Don Stockbauer...
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 1:46 pm
Guest
On Jun 29, 6:53 am, GreenXenon <glucege... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote:5eb536088e]On Jun 29, 4:25 am, Don Stockbauer <donstockba... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:

Just like 9/11, it's all an emergency.

How so?
[/quote:5eb536088e]
9/11 caused all sorts of emergent phenomena to occur. Like
scads-o-security-cameras everywhere. Has given the Earth a sort of
"fly's eye" vision. So nothing is completely evil.
 
 
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