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Thorsten Tarrach...
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:57 am
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Hi,

I'm wondering about WPA2 safety in the scenario of a compromised preshared
key (PSK).
I'm aware that the protocol is safe by today's knowledge if they key is kept
secure.
But what if I share the key with another person to enable that person to use
my AP. Will that break confidentiality of my communication with the AP?
The AES encryption key is derived from the PSK in some form of handshake. I
want to know now if someone else can obtain that key by capturing the
handshake and knowing the PSK?

Thanks, Thorsten
Carsten Krueger...
Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:09 pm
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Am Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:57:01 +0200 schrieb Thorsten Tarrach:

Quote:
Will that break confidentiality of my communication with the AP?

Yes, because he can do a man in the middle attack

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Thorsten Tarrach...
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:56 am
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Hi Carsten,

I agree that a man in the middle attack (probably ARP poisoning) would be
feasible but to sustain it over long periods unnoticed would be difficult.
So what about the case of a silent listener?

Thanks, Thorsten

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Am Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:57:01 +0200 schrieb Thorsten Tarrach:

Will that break confidentiality of my communication with the AP?

Yes, because he can do a man in the middle attack

greetings
Carsten
Carsten Krueger...
Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:04 pm
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Am Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:56:47 +0200 schrieb Thorsten Tarrach:

Quote:
So what about the case of a silent listener?

can sniff, too

wpa-buddy or aircrack-ng (airdecap)

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Dale Harris...
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:01 am
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"Thorsten Tarrach" <tho_public at (no spam) gmx.de> wrote in message
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Quote:
Hi,

I'm wondering about WPA2 safety in the scenario of a compromised preshared
key (PSK).
I'm aware that the protocol is safe by today's knowledge if they key is
kept
secure.
But what if I share the key with another person to enable that person to
use
my AP. Will that break confidentiality of my communication with the AP?
The AES encryption key is derived from the PSK in some form of handshake.
I
want to know now if someone else can obtain that key by capturing the
handshake and knowing the PSK?

If the key is compromised than you cannot expect any security. Cryptology is
all about keys.


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Carsten Krueger...
Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:34 pm
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Am Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:01:23 +0200 schrieb Dale Harris:

Quote:
If the key is compromised than you cannot expect any security. Cryptology is
all about keys.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_forward_secrecy

but WPA2 didn't implement this

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Thorsten Tarrach...
Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:19 pm
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"Carsten Krueger" <cakruege at (no spam) invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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Am Fri, 18 Jul 2008 14:01:23 +0200 schrieb Dale Harris:

If the key is compromised than you cannot expect any security. Cryptology
is
all about keys.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_forward_secrecy

but WPA2 didn't implement this

That's what I would have expected. With Diffie-Hellman key exchange the AP
and station could derive a key without a passive adversary gaining access to
it.
 
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