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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:47 pm |
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'unsafe at any speed.' Compact fluorescent bulb Hg Mercury: tvnz.nz
Morning Update
GET an energy efficient HEATER.
100 W incandescent old style.
David Parker Minister of Energy. Wellington//
Don't forget $10,ooo to remove mercury WHEN IT SNAPS.
[ neurotoxin serious health hazard.]
if you save hundreds of dollars power bill using an eco-
bulb, how much better would you do NOT burning 2000 watts electric
bar heater.
and the carbon credits the government signs over to Energy Mad rort.??
Save your power bill Thermometer, 18 deg ēC is warm.
NOT WASTE heat.
World Environment day
Although I cannot read paragraph, there may be a book campaign [1960s]
UNSAFE at any speed. Automobiles car safety.
by Ralph Nader US Consumer advocate. influence change.
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yours,
Don S. McDonald ...
Climate pride# Go Bus! Snap Park, car u_shoot.
Look after planet,thru roof 2save?
Get.. Enrg effic htr 100W incand.[ click.]
To be frank my first interpretaition** of this was
"Wow I've been getting way to** much caffiene** and non-perscription**
medication** to be let near a keyboard"
bcc stcube, gv, geo, tom, crcel, kedg, closeu tvnz,
Can anyone else better interpret. |
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Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:49 pm |
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On Jun 20, 4:47 pm, don.lo... at (no spam) paradise.net.nz wrote:
Quote: 'unsafe at any speed.' Compact fluorescent bulb Hg Mercury: tvnz.nz
Morning Update
GET an energy efficient HEATER.
100 W incandescent old style.
David Parker Minister of Energy. Wellington//
Don't forget $10,ooo to remove mercury WHEN IT SNAPS.
Reference, please.
It may cost $10k to clean up a major mercury spill (eg in the old HVDC
valve houses at Haywards and Benmore), but surely not for the
miniscule amount used in modern fluorescent tubes or bulbs. |
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:08 pm |
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On Jun 20, 1:49 am, peterwn <pete... at (no spam) paradise.net.nz> wrote:
Quote: On Jun 20, 4:47 pm, don.lo... at (no spam) paradise.net.nz wrote:
'unsafe at any speed.' Compact fluorescent bulb Hg Mercury: tvnz.nz
Morning Update
GET an energy efficient HEATER.
100 W incandescent old style.
David Parker Minister of Energy. Wellington//
Don't forget $10,ooo to remove mercury WHEN IT SNAPS.
Reference, please.
It may cost $10k to clean up a major mercury spill (eg in the old HVDC
valve houses at Haywards and Benmore), but surely not for the
miniscule amount used in modern fluorescent tubes or bulbs.
How much mercury is released by burning coal to
generate electricity? |
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| Freesias... |
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:57 am |
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On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:08:43 -0700, Father Haskell wrote:
Quote: How much mercury is released by burning coal to generate electricity?
Mercury is a metal that is liquid at room temperature. Coal is solid
carbonized organic matter made over many tens of thousands of years under
high geological pressures.
There is probably lower quantities of mercury in coal than there is gold
in coal.
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ANON: "Considering the number of wheels Microsoft has found reason to
invent, one never ceases to be baffled by the minuscule number whose
shape even vaguely resembles a circle." |
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| Keith... |
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:48 am |
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In article <pan.2008.06.21.07.14.26 at (no spam) Spring-Bulbs.com>, Freesias at (no spam) Spring-
Bulbs.com says...
Quote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:08:43 -0700, Father Haskell wrote:
How much mercury is released by burning coal to generate electricity?
Mercury is a metal that is liquid at room temperature. Coal is solid
carbonized organic matter made over many tens of thousands of years under
high geological pressures.
There is probably lower quantities of mercury in coal than there is gold
in coal.
"Natural sources such as volcanoes are responsible for approximately
half of atmospheric mercury emissions. The human-generated half can be
divided into the following estimated percentages:
* 65% from stationary combustion, of which coal-fired power plants are
the largest aggregate source (40% of U.S. mercury emissions in 1999).
This includes power plants fueled with gas where the mercury has not
been removed. Emissions from coal combustion are between one and two
orders of magnitude higher than emissions from oil combustion, depending
on the country.
* 11% from gold production. The three largest point sources for mercury
emissions in the U.S. are the three largest gold mines"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_(element)
"Smokestack emissions from coal-fired power plants are the primary
source of mercury pollution in the U.S.
Every year, coal-fired power plants release 48 tons of mercury
nationwide. "
http://www.coal-is-dirty.com/coal-effects-on-family-health |
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| EMB... |
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:59 am |
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Freesias wrote:
Quote: On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:08:43 -0700, Father Haskell wrote:
How much mercury is released by burning coal to generate electricity?
Mercury is a metal that is liquid at room temperature. Coal is solid
carbonized organic matter made over many tens of thousands of years under
high geological pressures.
There is probably lower quantities of mercury in coal than there is gold
in coal.
The Hg content of coal appears to be measurable in 10s of mg per kg of
coal. Gold at that level would be revovered.
http://igs.indiana.edu/Geology/coalOilGas/mercuryInCoal/index.cfm |
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| Freesias... |
Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:35 am |
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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:48:25 +1200, Keith wrote:
Quote: In article <pan.2008.06.21.07.14.26 at (no spam) Spring-Bulbs.com>, Freesias at (no spam) Spring-
Bulbs.com says...
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:08:43 -0700, Father Haskell wrote:
How much mercury is released by burning coal to generate electricity?
Mercury is a metal that is liquid at room temperature. Coal is solid
carbonized organic matter made over many tens of thousands of years
under high geological pressures.
There is probably lower quantities of mercury in coal than there is
gold in coal.
"Natural sources such as volcanoes are responsible for approximately
half of atmospheric mercury emissions. The human-generated half can be
divided into the following estimated percentages:
* 65% from stationary combustion, of which coal-fired power plants are
the largest aggregate source (40% of U.S. mercury emissions in 1999).
This includes power plants fueled with gas where the mercury has not
been removed. Emissions from coal combustion are between one and two
orders of magnitude higher than emissions from oil combustion, depending
on the country.
* 11% from gold production. The three largest point sources for mercury
emissions in the U.S. are the three largest gold mines"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_(element)
"Smokestack emissions from coal-fired power plants are the primary
source of mercury pollution in the U.S.
Every year, coal-fired power plants release 48 tons of mercury
nationwide. "
http://www.coal-is-dirty.com/coal-effects-on-family-health
How does that relate to usage here in NZ?
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ANON: "Considering the number of wheels Microsoft has found reason to
invent, one never ceases to be baffled by the minuscule number whose
shape even vaguely resembles a circle." |
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:23 am |
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EMB wrote:
Quote: Freesias wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 19:08:43 -0700, Father Haskell wrote:
How much mercury is released by burning coal to generate electricity?
Mercury is a metal that is liquid at room temperature. Coal is solid
carbonized organic matter made over many tens of thousands of years
under high geological pressures.
There is probably lower quantities of mercury in coal than there is
gold in coal.
The Hg content of coal appears to be measurable in 10s of mg per kg of
coal. Gold at that level would be revovered.
http://igs.indiana.edu/Geology/coalOilGas/mercuryInCoal/index.cfm
0.1 mg/kg ie 0.1g per tonne
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Dirk
http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
Remote Viewing classes in London |
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 10:18 am |
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On Jun 20, 11:57 pm, Freesias <Frees... at (no spam) Spring-Bulbs.com> wrote:
Quote: There is probably lower quantities of mercury in coal than there is gold
in coal.
There's a lot of mercury in coal. There's more happened to those dead
weeds of long ago that just getting squeezed.
There's also a boatload of uranium in coal. If you want to be safe
from radioactivity, build nukes.
DB |
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:45 pm |
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In article <pan.2008.06.21.10.52.37 at (no spam) Spring-Bulbs.com>, Freesias at (no spam) Spring-
Bulbs.com says...
Quote: On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 20:48:25 +1200, Keith wrote:
In article <pan.2008.06.21.07.14.26 at (no spam) Spring-Bulbs.com>, Freesias at (no spam) Spring-
Bulbs.com says...
,,snip...
There is probably lower quantities of mercury in coal than there is
gold in coal.
"Natural sources such as volcanoes are responsible for approximately
half of atmospheric mercury emissions. The human-generated half can be
divided into the following estimated percentages:
* 65% from stationary combustion, of which coal-fired power plants are
the largest aggregate source (40% of U.S. mercury emissions in 1999).
This includes power plants fueled with gas where the mercury has not
been removed. Emissions from coal combustion are between one and two
orders of magnitude higher than emissions from oil combustion, depending
on the country.
.....snip...
How does that relate to usage here in NZ?
Usage of what in NZ?
You were stating there wasn't any Hg in coal. I (and several others)
pointed out that you were wrong. But as is your usual fashion you will
completly side step that won't you? |
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:51 pm |
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On Sat, 21 Jun 2008 13:18:40 -0700, Bill Penrose wrote:
Quote: There is probably lower quantities of mercury in coal than there is
gold in coal.
There's a lot of mercury in coal. There's more happened to those dead
weeds of long ago that just getting squeezed.
There's also a boatload of uranium in coal. If you want to be safe from
radioactivity, build nukes.
Good thing that we mostly use hydroelectric electricity generation here
then eh!
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ANON: "Considering the number of wheels Microsoft has found reason to
invent, one never ceases to be baffled by the minuscule number whose
shape even vaguely resembles a circle." |
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 8:53 pm |
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On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 11:45:11 +1200, Keith wrote:
Quote: There is probably lower quantities of mercury in coal than there is
gold in coal.
"Natural sources such as volcanoes are responsible for approximately
half of atmospheric mercury emissions. The human-generated half can
be divided into the following estimated percentages:
* 65% from stationary combustion, of which coal-fired power plants
are the largest aggregate source (40% of U.S. mercury emissions in
1999). This includes power plants fueled with gas where the mercury
has not been removed. Emissions from coal combustion are between one
and two orders of magnitude higher than emissions from oil
combustion, depending on the country.
....snip...
How does that relate to usage here in NZ?
Usage of what in NZ?
You were stating there wasn't any Hg in coal. I (and several others)
pointed out that you were wrong. But as is your usual fashion you will
completly side step that won't you?
So I was wrong about the quantity of mercury in coal when compared with
the quantity of gold in coal. Bite me.
Please answer the question on how mercury in coal relates to the use of
CFLs here in NZ where the majority of all electricity generated is done
so using hydroelectric means.
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ANON: "Considering the number of wheels Microsoft has found reason to
invent, one never ceases to be baffled by the minuscule number whose
shape even vaguely resembles a circle." |
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Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 3:38 pm |
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On Jun 20, 5:49 pm, peterwn <pete... at (no spam) paradise.net.nz> wrote:
reference as requested.. ??? click...............
http://www.epa.gov/mercury/spills/index.htm
environment protection agency..............not an exact quotation.??
don.mcdonald. 23-6-08.
Quote: On Jun 20, 4:47 pm, don.lo... at (no spam) paradise.net.nz wrote:
'unsafe at any speed.' Compact fluorescent bulb Hg Mercury: tvnz.nz
Morning Update
GET an energy efficient HEATER.
100 W incandescent old style.
David Parker Minister of Energy. Wellington//
Don't forget $10,ooo to remove mercury WHEN IT SNAPS.
Reference, please.
It may cost $10k to clean up a major mercury spill (eg in the old HVDC
valve houses at Haywards and Benmore), but surely not for the
miniscule amount used in modern fluorescent tubes or bulbs. |
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