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Spaceman...
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:04 am
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Thanks to an un-named poster (don't want to get him in trouble)

The way to do such is kinda simple in thought but of course
hard in the reality of the way you need to hold particles.
:)

First thing you need is a particle that is about 2 times the mass
of an electron but two electrons will not do.
maybe if a molecule could be used it would be best..
Then you need to get that baby up to as close to light speed
as you can.
and then of course, you need to smash it into
a single electron that is basically at rest when it hits it.
The mass being double of the object it is hitting should act
like a baseball being hit by a ball that has two times the mass.
Too bad particle accelerators can't do that yet with
single molecules and single particles..
Or can they?
maybe a magnetic molecule?
I don't think they can but I could be wrong and someone
might "freak out the science world" soon if so.

Remember you heard it here first..
and if it works I will of course give credit to the un-named poster.
:)

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James M Driscoll Jr
Spaceman
Greg Neill...
Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:49 pm
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"Spaceman" <spaceman at (no spam) yourclockmalfunctioned.duh> wrote in message
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Quote:
Greg Neill wrote:
snipped the basic rubber ruler patting on the back routine


He knows damn well that his argument is lost if he admits
that his experiment has a known result, so he dances
around the failure by making more and more ludicrous
conditions to be met. Now he is apparently arguing that
the individual collisions in the HERA accelerator are
not individual enough.

Please post a link that has the facts about the single particle
vs single particle collision with one "at rest" has been done.
As I stated.

See? Now he attributes an electron at rest with some
special voodoo powers that will affect the outcome.
Apparently no other condition will do!

If he knew anything at all about collisions and
conservation laws he'd be rooting for the electrons
to be travelling as quickly as possible towards the
protons -- the collision will add practically all of
that momentum to the recoil. When the impactor is
much more massive than the impactee, as it is with
a proton colliding with an electron, then in a Newtonian
collision this effectively adds the impactee's initial
speed to the speed of the recoil.

So if the proton moving at nearly c can make a stationary
electron recoil at nearly 2c (pretending for a moment
that Newtonian rules apply), the same proton colliding
with an electron moving at nearly c in the opposite
direction would cause a recoil of nearly 3c for the
electron.
 
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