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| Marc Verhaegen... |
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Taphonomy of lower vertebrates from Vindija cave (Croatia):
delicacy on the Neandertal table or animal prey?
M Paunovic & FH Smith 2002 meeting PA Society abstracts
This study deals with paleontology and taphonomy of lower vertebrates
collected from the Pleistocene levels of the cave Vindija (NW Croatia)
ranging in age from OIS 6 to OIS 1. Among 554 recently identified skeletal
remains the majority belongs to fresh-water fish taxa and amphibians,
reflecting different micro-habitat requirements but not short- or long-term
changes in the immediate surroundings of the cave. At the same time,
analysis of modifications (breakage, digestion) of bones shows a
homogeneity of patterns for all studied samples which indicate a uniform
accumulating agent and taphonomic trajectories as well as specific origin of
the material. The majority of the identified remains belongs to the (also
today economically, or better to say dietary) prized taxa such as trout,
pikeperch or edible frog, and was found in sediments together with
Neandertal bones as well as in association with Mousterian and Aurignacian
artefacts dated to OIS 3. Thus, in contrast to previous theories of
long-distance following of herbivores, a territorial model of exploitation
of all animal sources is more plausible for Middle and Upper Paleolithic
people, ie, Neandertals, from Vindija cave. |
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| Lee Olsen... |
| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:52 pm |
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On Jun 11, 11:52 am, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae... at (no spam) skynet.be> wrote:
Quote: Taphonomy of lower vertebrates from Vindija cave (Croatia):
delicacy on the Neandertal table or animal prey?
M Paunovic & FH Smith 2002 meeting PA Society abstracts
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/120178997v1
"The Neanderthal samples from Vindija have high
d15N values, which indicate that the overwhelming majority of
their dietary protein was from animal, rather than plant, sources
(Table 1, Fig. 1)."
"The isotope evidence overwhelmingly points to the Neanderthals
behaving as top-level carnivores,
obtaining almost all of their dietary protein from animal sources.
Earlier Neanderthals in France
and Belgium have yielded similar results, and a pattern of European
Neanderthal adaptation as
carnivores is emerging."
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/98/19/10972
"Recent applications of stable carbon and nitrogen isotopes derived
from Neandertal bone collagen
suggest that Neandertals from the sites of Vindija, Marillac, and
Scladina occupied a trophic level
of a top carnivore (14, 15) with most of their dietary protein derived
from animal sources."
http://www.spcnetwork.com/mii/2000/000628.htm
"Studies of bones from the early modern humans in Europe suggest they
had a more
varied diet, eating smaller animals, such as rabbits, and lots of fish
- up to 30% of their diet.
But for the Neanderthal, it was meat, meat and more meat." |
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| Lee Olsen... |
| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:07 pm |
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On Jun 11, 2:45 pm, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae... at (no spam) skynet.be> wrote:
Quote: Taphonomy of lower vertebrates from Vindija cave (Croatia):
delicacy on the Neandertal table or animal prey?
M Paunovic & FH Smith 2002 meeting PA Society abstracts
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/120178997v1
"The Neanderthal samples from Vindija have high
d15N values, which indicate that the overwhelming majority of
their dietary protein was from animal, rather than plant, sources
(Table 1, Fig. 1)."
Our little boy
Poor pervert still lustings after boys.
Quote: apparently you hasn't even had a look at this figure.
Thanks for confirming Ns ate meat, not fish or cattails. |
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| Lee Olsen... |
| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:44 pm |
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On Jun 11, 5:11 pm, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae... at (no spam) skynet.be> wrote:
Quote:
Thanks for confirming Ns ate meat, not fish or cattails.
Read the paper, my little boy.
Pervert, still lusting after little boys?
Quote: Taphonomy of lower vertebrates from Vindija cave (Croatia):
delicacy on the Neandertal table or animal prey?
M Paunovic & FH Smith 2002 meeting PA Society abstracts
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/120178997v1
"The Neanderthal samples from Vindija have high
d15N values, which indicate that the overwhelming majority of
their dietary protein was from animal, rather than plant, sources
(Table 1, Fig. 1)."
"The isotope evidence overwhelmingly points to the Neanderthals
behaving as top-level carnivores,
obtaining almost all of their dietary protein from animal sources.
Earlier Neanderthals in France
and Belgium have yielded similar results, and a pattern of European
Neanderthal adaptation as
carnivores is emerging."
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/98/19/10972
"Recent applications of stable carbon and nitrogen isotopes derived
from Neandertal bone collagen
suggest that Neandertals from the sites of Vindija, Marillac, and
Scladina occupied a trophic level
of a top carnivore (14, 15) with most of their dietary protein
derived
from animal sources."
http://www.spcnetwork.com/mii/2000/000628.htm
"Studies of bones from the early modern humans in Europe suggest they
had a more
varied diet, eating smaller animals, such as rabbits, and lots of
fish
- up to 30% of their diet.
But for the Neanderthal, it was meat, meat and more meat."
Right, meat, meat, and more meat. |
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| Marc Verhaegen... |
| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 4:45 pm |
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Quote: Taphonomy of lower vertebrates from Vindija cave (Croatia):
delicacy on the Neandertal table or animal prey?
M Paunovic & FH Smith 2002 meeting PA Society abstracts
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/120178997v1
"The Neanderthal samples from Vindija have high
d15N values, which indicate that the overwhelming majority of
their dietary protein was from animal, rather than plant, sources
(Table 1, Fig. 1)."
Our little boy apparently you hasn't even had a look at this figure.
Otherwise he would have known that in this figure Hn stands amid wolves &
mammoths.
Savanna Fantasts are stupid stupid stupid. |
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| Marc Verhaegen... |
| Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 7:11 pm |
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SF now thinks mammoths eat meat:
Quote: On Jun 11, 2:45 pm, Marc Verhaegen <m_verhae... at (no spam) skynet.be> wrote:
Taphonomy of lower vertebrates from Vindija cave (Croatia):
delicacy on the Neandertal table or animal prey?
M Paunovic & FH Smith 2002 meeting PA Society abstracts
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/120178997v1
"The Neanderthal samples from Vindija have high
d15N values, which indicate that the overwhelming majority of
their dietary protein was from animal, rather than plant, sources
(Table 1, Fig. 1)."
Our little boy
Poor pervert still lustings after boys.
apparently you hasn't even had a look at this figure. It shows Hn halfway
wolves & mammoths.
Thanks for confirming Ns ate meat, not fish or cattails.
Read the paper, my little boy. |
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