On May 9, 11:37 pm, the Ferrous Fuckwit <clutching at (no spam) straws> netkooked:

snip of off-topic and plagiarized information

That's how you spend your Friday nights, Fuckwit?
Trolling the internet? Pretending you aren't a
crackpot? You're sad. Seeing as you have so much
free time on your hands, you are now expected to
reveal your qualifications to give medical advice.

--Bill Thompson

On May 9, 11:37 pm, the Ferrous Fuckwit <clutching at (no spam) straws> netkooked:

snip of off-topic and plagiarized information

That's how you spend your Friday nights, Fuckwit?
Trolling the internet? Pretending you aren't a
crackpot? You're sad. Seeing as you have so much
free time on your hands, you are now expected to
reveal your qualifications to give medical advice.

--Bill Thompson

Actually, it can't be seen as plagiarized when there is fully citing
of source material.

And it can be seen as on-topic for the diabetes group. And for the
nutrition and pathology groups. Maybe the lupus group, and with
a stretch, maybe the fibromyalgia group.

"Michael B"  wrote:
Actually, it can't be seen as plagiarized when there is fully citing
of source material.

Rusty is posting copyrighted material without the permission of
the copyright owner.  He could be taken into court and successfully
prosecuted, although I doubt that anyone would bother with such
a pipsqueak as him.

And it can be seen as on-topic for the diabetes group. And for the
nutrition and pathology groups. Maybe the lupus group, and with
a stretch, maybe the fibromyalgia group.

If Rusty had something on-topic for alt.support.lupus, it
didn't show up.  And if there are ever any kernels of corn
in his posts, nobody should have to sift through his Mount
Bandinis of fertilizer to find them. The bulk of his posts
don't say anything helpful to anyone, which is just more
evidence that he is not qualified to give medical advice.

Don't worry, I intend to give it a rest for a while.  I don't
like to bother people (not that TeamTroller is "people").

--Bill Thompson

"Michael B" <baugh... at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote in message

news:f3dc750e-f644-47cb-8e8b-05ce5a1068c5 at (no spam) 59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

Actually, it can't be seen as plagiarized when there is fully citing
of source material.

And it can be seen as on-topic for the diabetes group. And for the
nutrition and pathology groups.

Pathology groups? No - not really.

In spite of his one-person parade, there is some value to what he
says, for some of the readers. If a person doesn't deal well with the
iron, there can indeed be problems that are not typically attributed
to iron overload. Used to happen more when iron skillets were more
common, with metal spatulas instead of plastic.

Also, it should be considered if a person has had at least 13 blood
transfusions, not necessarily within a narrow time frame. Several
years, even, especially for men, pre and postmenopausal women.

Read what he's posted carefully. You'll find that there are well known side
effects of massive iron overloads, like in the example of multiple blood
transfusions. There are also well know problems of iron metabolism. All of
which are quite rare in the great scheme of things.
However the Ferrous Fool utterly misunderstands what's going on, and
furthermore rejects all attempts at enlightening him. Instead he prefers to
continue his religous crusade by posting any mention of iron onto any
seemingly random newsgroup.
I suspect someone close to him died of one of these rare conditions and it's
unhinged him somewhat.

But the part that is so annoying about him is the presentation of
iron overload as the single most relevant factor from diabetes to
end organ failure in lupus.  Certainly not apologizing for him, he
is a pest at times, but sometimes he presents something of value,
even if you have to pick through a lot of shit for the piece of corn.

The only "bits of corn" I've ever found are those things which are factually
true but posted out of context.

"ironjustice" <teamtan... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message

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On May 11, 8:33 pm, "William R.  Thompson" <wrtho... at (no spam) ix.netcom.com
wrote:Rusty is posting copyrighted material

People send me .. stuff .. and I .. forward .. stuff ..

Like the stuff below .. and seeing you ain't a woman .. stfu ..

"Those with lupus were more prone to such traditional risk factors for
heart disease as hypertension and diabetes and were five to eight
times more likely to develop CHD than women in the general population"

TUESDAY, Nov. 4 (HealthDayNews) -- Women with lupus have more risk
factors for heart disease than women without the autoimmune disorder,
says a study by researchers at the University of Toronto Lupus Clinic.

In addition to traditional risk factors for heart disease, women with
lupus have several novel metabolic risk factors that may be linked to
the inflammation caused by lupus, the researchers say. Their report
appears in the November issue of Arthritis and Rheumatism.

The study, which included 250 women with lupus and 250 healthy women
in a control group, found those with lupus were more prone to such
traditional risk factors for heart disease as hypertension and
diabetes. Lupus patients were also more sedentary.

The two groups were matched for age. Despite that, the women with
lupus were more likely to be menopausal -- 38 percent compared to 19
percent of the control group. Women with lupus experienced menopause,
on average, five years earlier than women in the control group.

The lupus patients also had much higher levels of triglycerides, low-
density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol and homocysteine. These are all
factors related to lipid metabolism and characteristic of inflammatory
disorders such as lupus. These probably contribute to the loss of
protection from coronary heart disease (CHD) in women with lupus.

"Many of the factors identified are potentially amenable to screening
and intervention. Further studies to understand the additional
contribution of the inflammatory process to CHD risk in lupus are
needed, as are studies to accurately predict the future risk of CHD in
this high-risk population," lead researcher Dr. Ian N. Bruce says in a
prepared statement.

Several previous studies confirmed that women with lupus are five to
eight times more likely to develop CHD than women in the general
population. That risk is especially pronounced among women younger
than 55.

Lupus is an autoimmune disorder that's marked by progressive damage to
the kidneys, heart and brain.

Who loves ya.
Tom

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"Michael B" wrote:
Actually, it can't be seen as plagiarized when there is fully citing
of source material.

Rusty is posting copyrighted material without the permission of
the copyright owner. He could be taken into court and successfully
prosecuted, although I doubt that anyone would bother with such
a pipsqueak as him.

And it can be seen as on-topic for the diabetes group. And for the
nutrition and pathology groups. Maybe the lupus group, and with
a stretch, maybe the fibromyalgia group.

If Rusty had something on-topic for alt.support.lupus, it
didn't show up. And if there are ever any kernels of corn
in his posts, nobody should have to sift through his Mount
Bandinis of fertilizer to find them. The bulk of his posts
don't say anything helpful to anyone, which is just more
evidence that he is not qualified to give medical advice.

Don't worry, I intend to give it a rest for a while. I don't
like to bother people (not that TeamTroller is "people").

--Bill Thompson- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"Michael B" wrote:
Actually, it can't be seen as plagiarized when there is fully citing
of source material.

Rusty is posting copyrighted material without the permission of
the copyright owner. He could be taken into court and successfully
prosecuted, although I doubt that anyone would bother with such
a pipsqueak as him.

And it can be seen as on-topic for the diabetes group. And for the
nutrition and pathology groups. Maybe the lupus group, and with
a stretch, maybe the fibromyalgia group.

If Rusty had something on-topic for alt.support.lupus, it
didn't show up. And if there are ever any kernels of corn
in his posts, nobody should have to sift through his Mount
Bandinis of fertilizer to find them. The bulk of his posts
don't say anything helpful to anyone, which is just more
evidence that he is not qualified to give medical advice.

Don't worry, I intend to give it a rest for a while. I don't
like to bother people (not that TeamTroller is "people").

--Bill Thompson

"Michael B" <baugh... at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote in message

news:f3dc750e-f644-47cb-8e8b-05ce5a1068c5 at (no spam) 59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

Actually, it can't be seen as plagiarized when there is fully citing
of source material.

And it can be seen as on-topic for the diabetes group. And for the
nutrition and pathology groups.

Pathology groups? No - not really.

In spite of his one-person parade, there is some value to what he
says, for some of the readers. If a person doesn't deal well with the
iron, there can indeed be problems that are not typically attributed
to iron overload. Used to happen more when iron skillets were more
common, with metal spatulas instead of plastic.

Also, it should be considered if a person has had at least 13 blood
transfusions, not necessarily within a narrow time frame. Several
years, even, especially for men, pre and postmenopausal women.

Read what he's posted carefully. You'll find that there are well known side
effects of massive iron overloads, like in the example of multiple blood
transfusions. There are also well know problems of iron metabolism. All of
which are quite rare in the great scheme of things.
However the Ferrous Fool utterly misunderstands what's going on, and
furthermore rejects all attempts at enlightening him. Instead he prefers to
continue his religous crusade by posting any mention of iron onto any
seemingly random newsgroup.
I suspect someone close to him died of one of these rare conditions and it's
unhinged him somewhat.

But the part that is so annoying about him is the presentation of
iron overload as the single most relevant factor from diabetes to
end organ failure in lupus.  Certainly not apologizing for him, he
is a pest at times, but sometimes he presents something of value,
even if you have to pick through a lot of shit for the piece of corn.

The only "bits of corn" I've ever found are those things which are factually
true but posted out of context.

"Michael B" <baugh... at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote in message

news:f3dc750e-f644-47cb-8e8b-05ce5a1068c5 at (no spam) 59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

Actually, it can't be seen as plagiarized when there is fully citing
of source material.

And it can be seen as on-topic for the diabetes group. And for the
nutrition and pathology groups.

Pathology groups? No - not really.

In spite of his one-person parade, there is some value to what he
says, for some of the readers. If a person doesn't deal well with the
iron, there can indeed be problems that are not typically attributed
to iron overload. Used to happen more when iron skillets were more
common, with metal spatulas instead of plastic.

Also, it should be considered if a person has had at least 13 blood
transfusions, not necessarily within a narrow time frame. Several
years, even, especially for men, pre and postmenopausal women.

Read what he's posted carefully. You'll find that there are well known
side
effects of massive iron overloads, like in the example of multiple blood
transfusions. There are also well know problems of iron metabolism. All of
which are quite rare in the great scheme of things.
However the Ferrous Fool utterly misunderstands what's going on, and
furthermore rejects all attempts at enlightening him. Instead he prefers
to
continue his religous crusade by posting any mention of iron onto any
seemingly random newsgroup.
I suspect someone close to him died of one of these rare conditions and
it's
unhinged him somewhat.

But the part that is so annoying about him is the presentation of
iron overload as the single most relevant factor from diabetes to
end organ failure in lupus. Certainly not apologizing for him, he
is a pest at times, but sometimes he presents something of value,
even if you have to pick through a lot of shit for the piece of corn.

The only "bits of corn" I've ever found are those things which are
factually
true but posted out of context.

news:ca9513fe-57b8-4a6c-8915-96739e80b4e6 at (no spam) y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
On May 12, 3:16 am, "Manky Badger" <you.m... at (no spam) be.joking> wrote:





"Michael B" <baugh... at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote in message

news:f3dc750e-f644-47cb-8e8b-05ce5a1068c5 at (no spam) 59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

Actually, it can't be seen as plagiarized when there is fully citing
of source material.

And it can be seen as on-topic for the diabetes group. And for the
nutrition and pathology groups.

Pathology groups? No - not really.

In spite of his one-person parade, there is some value to what he
says, for some of the readers. If a person doesn't deal well with the
iron, there can indeed be problems that are not typically attributed
to iron overload. Used to happen more when iron skillets were more
common, with metal spatulas instead of plastic.

Also, it should be considered if a person has had at least 13 blood
transfusions, not necessarily within a narrow time frame. Several
years, even, especially for men, pre and postmenopausal women.

Read what he's posted carefully. You'll find that there are well known
side
effects of massive iron overloads, like in the example of multiple blood
transfusions. There are also well know problems of iron metabolism. All of
which are quite rare in the great scheme of things.
However the Ferrous Fool utterly misunderstands what's going on, and
furthermore rejects all attempts at enlightening him. Instead he prefers
to
continue his religous crusade by posting any mention of iron onto any
seemingly random newsgroup.
I suspect someone close to him died of one of these rare conditions and
it's
unhinged him somewhat.

But the part that is so annoying about him is the presentation of
iron overload as the single most relevant factor from diabetes to
end organ failure in lupus. Certainly not apologizing for him, he
is a pest at times, but sometimes he presents something of value,
even if you have to pick through a lot of shit for the piece of corn.

The only "bits of corn" I've ever found are those things which are
factually
true but posted out of context.

Manky,

RE:  I suspect someone close to him died of one of these rare
conditions and it's
unhinged him somewhat.

Quite honestly, I've often thought that perhaps he's the one that has
an iron condition.  Perhaps that's why he has such interest.....

In any event, there has been some articles that I've enjoyed, others I
haven't.  I'm positive and certain, that he can say the same about
me......

It's like watching tv or listening to music, if you don't want to
watch or hear, change the channel.  In this case, don't read.....

Take care and be well out there!  Debra- Hide quoted text -

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"ironjustice" <teamtan... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message

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On May 12, 1:16 am, "Manky Badger" <you.m... at (no spam) be.joking
wrote:Pathology groups? No - not really.

I .. rest .. my .. case ..

http://library.med.utah.edu/WebPath/webpath.html

Pathology covers .. disease .. **process** ..

What disease you figure doesn't HAVE a .. process ..

Eh ..

Tell me ..

Tell everyone ..
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The regular contributors to sci.med.pathology (with one exception) are
educated to postgraduate level.
That one exception is not, and he has no understanding of the articles he
randomly posts and contributes nothing to the group.

Therefore the constant stream of ferrous tommyfoolery is irrelevent to the
group.

ironjust... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message

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On May 12, 1:42 pm, "Manky Badger" <you.m... at (no spam) be.joking> wrote:The
regular contributors to sci.med.pathology (with one exception) are
 educated to postgraduate level.

Now you got somesplainin to do there ..lucy ..

You mean these guys ..yourself included .. are educated to such a
degree.. and searching the group for the iron posting one finds
nothing but me.

Now with iron being found to be such a problem .. IE: everyone with
long term diabetes and the NIH clinical trial .. means .. ?

Either the pathology interested people ON your list are collectively
not interested in posting to a list of your caliber ..or .. ? .. they
just missed it .. missed the boat .. missed the obvious .. dismissed
the obvious .. killed women men children fetuses and it seems try to
kill my ..fkg ..dog.
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Tommy, I'm sorry to put this so bluntly, but with all your posts you flatter
yourself that you have something to contribute to the sci.med.pathology
newsgroup (and all the others).

You are wrong.
You do not.

If you think you do have something to contribute, review the years of
postings that you've put up contradictory gibberish, particularly to how you
conduct yourself in discussion.