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| Zetsu... |
 Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:23 am |
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:29 pm |
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On May 15, 1:23 pm, Zetsu <absolutelyinvinci... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Our Zetsu's prescriptions are for a character named Iqbal Shaan. A
year ago I received the following email:
from: Shaan Iqbal <absolutelyinvincible at (no spam) hotmail.com>
to: mikabrainy at (no spam) gmail.com
date: Wed, May 16, 2007 at 4:00 AM
subject: 'Kaze is a fake'
mailed-by hotmail.com
hide details 5/16/07 Reply
Dear Ms. Brainy,
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The email was signed by "Kaze", which was the original name used by
"absolutelyinvincible", aka Zetsu and several dozens other names.
I then googled Shaan Iqbal and discovered she was a Pakistani belly
dancer or something like this.
Now Zetsu (the Brit who proclaims to be a Norweigian girl living in
the U.K.) is presenting "authentic" 2-yr old prescriptions for him/
herself, bearing the name of a Pakistani belly dancer, and wanting us
to believe they are his/her prescriptions "before the treatment", I
guess before s/he began palming, swinging and sunning.
Moreover, this faked fraud wants us to believe him/her. Can anybody
do this? |
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| Neil Brooks... |
| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 1:08 pm |
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On May 15, 3:29 pm, "Ms.Brainy" <mikabra... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Moreover, this faked fraud wants us to believe him/her. Can anybody
do this?
Not I.
These just come under the heading of yet more unverifiable, third-hand
anecdotes from Atchoo.
Rather tiresome.... |
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:25 pm |
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Good Zetsu,
Do you have your Visual Acuity measurement?
Perhaps you could check.
Just click here, and then on display several times. That will
give you 20/60.
http://www.smbs.buffalo.edu/oph/ped/IVAC/IVAC.html
Naked eye, with the -1 diopter eye, you can probably read the
20/60 line (read 1/2 the letters to pass the line).
The -3.25 diopter will probably read 20/200 with no minus lens on.
Since you wish to be a scientist, why not read and report your
objective reading of your Snellen.
Thus as you do Bates, you can report how you eventually
reach PERFECT visual acuity.
Good luck,
On May 15, 4:23 pm, Zetsu <absolutelyinvinci... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
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| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:29 pm |
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Even if the prescriptions were authentic and real, what would they
prove? That Iqbal had a certain Rx a few years ago? Big deal! There
are millions of corrective glasses prescriptions in the world every
year. How can it shed any light on the effectiveness of the Batesian
method or provide verification of its claims?
On May 15, 4:08 pm, Neil Brooks <neil0... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: On May 15, 3:29 pm, "Ms.Brainy" <mikabra... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Moreover, this faked fraud wants us to believe him/her. Can anybody
do this?
Not I.
These just come under the heading of yet more unverifiable, third-hand
anecdotes from Atchoo.
Rather tiresome.... |
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| Neil Brooks... |
| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 2:53 pm |
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On May 15, 5:25 pm, otisbr... at (no spam) embarqmail.com wrote:
Quote: Thus as you do Bates, you can report how you eventually
reach PERFECT visual acuity.
And if he does ... will you then start attacking YOUR 6d of myopia?
I mean ... for somebody claiming to know so much about the "dynamic
eye ..." being a high myope sort of assails your credibility, no? |
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 6:10 am |
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Dear Zetsu,
You have posted almost endless remarks about Bates and his
wonderful ability to get you to clear your Snellen from
20/60 and 20/200 to normal.
Now, since you are a "convinced Bates person", you should
apply his concept to yourself, and, working very
hard with Bates, begin clearing your Snellen back
to normal.
This is an "acid test" for you. We will all cheer you
along as your report your Snellen clearing from
20/XXX to perfect.
Enjoy,
On May 15, 4:23 pm, Zetsu <absolutelyinvinci... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 7:58 am |
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Dear Mike,
Subject: Zetsu -- the true believer.
Zetsu totally believes that Bates was correct.
As you, and other has stated, well, OK, Zetsu, go ahead
an clear your Snellen -- the way that Bates said.
You are not stopping him. I am not stopping him.
Babbling Brooks is not stopping him.
The struggle (and perhaps success) must be exclusively
Zetsu's responsibility.
Enjoy,
On May 16, 12:48 pm, "Mike Tyner" <mty... at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote:
Quote: otisbr... at (no spam) embarqmail.com> wrote
This is an "acid test" for you. We will all cheer you
along as your report your Snellen clearing from
20/XXX to perfect.
So "acid test" is the plural of "anecdote?"
-MT |
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| Mike Tyner... |
| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:48 am |
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<otisbrown at (no spam) embarqmail.com> wrote
Quote: This is an "acid test" for you. We will all cheer you
along as your report your Snellen clearing from
20/XXX to perfect.
So "acid test" is the plural of "anecdote?"
-MT |
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 2:39 pm |
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otisbrown at (no spam) embarqmail.com wrote:
Quote: Dear Mike,
Subject: Zetsu -- the true believer.
Zetsu totally believes that Bates was correct.
snip
The struggle (and perhaps success) must be exclusively
Zetsu's responsibility.
Enjoy,
Are you floating in the clouds again Otis? Who said anything about
responsibility?
Zetsu seems to intend to provide "evidence" to the effectiveness of the Bates
treatment, but all he has provided are questionable old prescriptions for a
Pakistani belly dancer named Iqbal Shaan. He didn't even provide any recent
questionable Rx to suggest that Iqbal's vision has improved due to the Bates
treatment or otherwise.
Zetsu tries to make a point and convince others in his righteousness. If it
was "exclusively" his responsibility or private business only, then it would
be of no interest to anybody here and he would not have posted the
prescriptions.
BTW, is there any chance that you'll get down to earth and reality at any
foreseeable future? Aren't you tired of getting no support at all, exposing
yourself continuously to the eternal "bubbly Neil"?
--
MsBrainy
Message posted via MedKB.com
http://www.medkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/vision/200805/1 |
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:12 pm |
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Dear Brainy,
Subject: Zetsu posting his Snellen.
I do hear a lot of "talk" about this issue -- from Bates followers.
They post there prescription.
I say, fine, now read this Snellen and post your Visual Acuity -- so
you have a STARTING POINT, and you can be empowered to
clear your Snellen.
They almost never do that.
So I am curious to see if Zetsu has the ability (and courage)
to:
1. Read his own Snellen and
2. Post the results.
What ever the results -- that would be a starting point for
Zetsu.
We should have his reading of his Snellen in a few days.
Or he is just blowing smoke.
Enjoy,
On May 16, 3:39 pm, "MsBrainy via MedKB.com" <u33689 at (no spam) uwe> wrote:
Quote: otisbr... at (no spam) embarqmail.com wrote:
Dear Mike,
Subject: Zetsu -- the true believer.
Zetsu totally believes that Bates was correct.
snip
The struggle (and perhaps success) must be exclusively
Zetsu's responsibility.
Enjoy,
Are you floating in the clouds again Otis? Who said anything about
responsibility?
Zetsu seems to intend to provide "evidence" to the effectiveness of the Bates
treatment, but all he has provided are questionable old prescriptions for a
Pakistani belly dancer named Iqbal Shaan. He didn't even provide any recent
questionable Rx to suggest that Iqbal's vision has improved due to the Bates
treatment or otherwise.
Zetsu tries to make a point and convince others in his righteousness. If it
was "exclusively" his responsibility or private business only, then it would
be of no interest to anybody here and he would not have posted the
prescriptions.
BTW, is there any chance that you'll get down to earth and reality at any
foreseeable future? Aren't you tired of getting no support at all, exposing
yourself continuously to the eternal "bubbly Neil"?
--
MsBrainy
Message posted via MedKB.comhttp://www.medkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/vision/200805/1 |
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| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 5:39 pm |
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We are waiting for Zetsu to:
1. Read his Snellen.
2. Report his Snellen.
3. And report his continued success in getting
his Snellen back to normal -- as he suggests
is possible.
That is it.
It will be interesting to hear him report his success -- that
he has the imagination to accomplish what he claims.
Enjoy,
On May 16, 3:39 pm, "MsBrainy via MedKB.com" <u33689 at (no spam) uwe> wrote:
Quote: otisbr... at (no spam) embarqmail.com wrote:
Dear Mike,
Subject: Zetsu -- the true believer.
Zetsu totally believes that Bates was correct.
snip
The struggle (and perhaps success) must be exclusively
Zetsu's responsibility.
Enjoy,
Are you floating in the clouds again Otis? Who said anything about
responsibility?
Zetsu seems to intend to provide "evidence" to the effectiveness of the Bates
treatment, but all he has provided are questionable old prescriptions for a
Pakistani belly dancer named Iqbal Shaan. He didn't even provide any recent
questionable Rx to suggest that Iqbal's vision has improved due to the Bates
treatment or otherwise.
Zetsu tries to make a point and convince others in his righteousness. If it
was "exclusively" his responsibility or private business only, then it would
be of no interest to anybody here and he would not have posted the
prescriptions.
BTW, is there any chance that you'll get down to earth and reality at any
foreseeable future? Aren't you tired of getting no support at all, exposing
yourself continuously to the eternal "bubbly Neil"?
--
MsBrainy
Message posted via MedKB.comhttp://www.medkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/vision/200805/1 |
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| Neil Brooks... |
| Posted: Sun May 18, 2008 11:15 am |
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So ... all that 'Zetsu' must do is to make up stories, and Otis will
be satisfied.
Big surprise, that.
Welcome to the Dark Ages. |
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