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steve...
Posted: Thu May 22, 2008 4:25 pm
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Two teams one from the USA, one made up from a selection of other
countries (EU Russia,Japan, China) are sent to Mars.
The winner is the team that survives the longest.
Sponsership and advertising should cover the costs.
If both teams can survive for a year they will be brought back to
Earth where fame and talk shows will guarantee them riches and a place
in history.

Any takers ?
Martha Adams...
Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 9:30 pm
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"Invid Fan" <invid at (no spam) localnet.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
In article
dc712824-183c-4729-9d49-91bc4f7bb88e at (no spam) k10g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
steve <stephen.colbourne at (no spam) comsuper.gov.au> wrote:

Two teams one from the USA, one made up from a selection of other
countries (EU Russia,Japan, China) are sent to Mars.
The winner is the team that survives the longest.
Sponsership and advertising should cover the costs.
If both teams can survive for a year they will be brought back to
Earth where fame and talk shows will guarantee them riches and a
place
in history.

Any takers ?

Better yet, a few weeks into the mission send a message that war
between the nations has broken out, and cut communications.

--
Chris Mack "Refugee, total shit. That's how I've always seen us.
'Invid Fan' Not a help, you'll admit, to agreement between
us."
-'Deal/No Deal', CHESS


Zubrin has been doing analog missions here on Terra
surface. He has a lot from those, does this mean
we are at crunch time for doing full-term analog
missions here, no matter what, even if some of the
crew dies? ?? Are we tough enough to do that?

My own thinking is yes, it's time to do those hard
analog missions and yes, we *must* be tough enough
to do it all. At worst, we learn better from a
bad failure here, than if it's out there.

That's two years for an analog Mars and return; it
would cost *far* less than when we actually do it.
And it's a good bet to make the difference between
failure -- and success.

Titeotwawki -- mha [sci.space.policy 2008 May 24]
jonathan...
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 4:46 pm
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"Martha Adams" <mhada at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote in message
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"Invid Fan" <invid at (no spam) localnet.com> wrote in message
news:240520081432511433%invid at (no spam) localnet.com...
In article
dc712824-183c-4729-9d49-91bc4f7bb88e at (no spam) k10g2000prm.googlegroups.com>,
steve <stephen.colbourne at (no spam) comsuper.gov.au> wrote:

Two teams one from the USA, one made up from a selection of other
countries (EU Russia,Japan, China) are sent to Mars.
The winner is the team that survives the longest.
Sponsership and advertising should cover the costs.
If both teams can survive for a year they will be brought back to
Earth where fame and talk shows will guarantee them riches and a place
in history.

Any takers ?

Better yet, a few weeks into the mission send a message that war
between the nations has broken out, and cut communications.

--
Chris Mack "Refugee, total shit. That's how I've always seen us.
'Invid Fan' Not a help, you'll admit, to agreement between us."
-'Deal/No Deal', CHESS


Zubrin has been doing analog missions here on Terra
surface. He has a lot from those, does this mean
we are at crunch time for doing full-term analog
missions here, no matter what, even if some of the
crew dies? ?? Are we tough enough to do that?


I think that's called kidnapping, depraved indifference
and murder.


Quote:

My own thinking is yes, it's time to do those hard
analog missions and yes, we *must* be tough enough
to do it all. At worst, we learn better from a
bad failure here, than if it's out there.

That's two years for an analog Mars and return; it
would cost *far* less than when we actually do it.
And it's a good bet to make the difference between
failure -- and success.



.....said Dr Mengele


Quote:

Titeotwawki -- mha [sci.space.policy 2008 May 24]

steve...
Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 5:05 pm
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If we can assume sometime people will visit Mars, surely the more
money available to make it a successful trip the better.
If additional funds can be made available by making it a game show
with product placements, advertising etc. we have increased the
survival chances of the people involved. If national prestige is on
the line as well like in the "Space Race to the Moon" inthe 60's you
will then have a large amount of available resources.
Keep the public involved and they will not mind paying for it.
steve...
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 3:52 pm
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The Moon Landings were probably working to tighter margins than I am
proposing for Mars.
I dont think the US government would now take the risks they did back
in 1969. I dont think many people refused to watch because of the
danger back then.

The people who volunteer and are chosen for this would not be the
stupid people who appear on Big Brother who are chosen on purpose for
their low intelligence to ensure an entertaining program. They would
be the people with the best chance of survival.
I am proposing a return trip, although there is a good argument for
setting up a permanaent base with no plans for return to Earth.
BradGuth...
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:02 pm
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On May 26, 6:52 pm, steve <stephen.colbou... at (no spam) comsuper.gov.au> wrote:
Quote:
The Moon Landings were probably working to tighter margins than I am
proposing for Mars.
I dont think the US government would now take the risks they did back
in 1969. I dont think many people refused to watch because of the
danger back then.

The people who volunteer and are chosen for this would not be the
stupid people who appear on Big Brother who are chosen on purpose for
their low intelligence to ensure an entertaining program. They would
be the people with the best chance of survival.
I am proposing a return trip, although there is a good argument for
setting up a permanaent base with no plans for return to Earth.

Without them Zionist/Nazi wizards of our DARPA, you haven't got a
chance in hell, that is unless you've got ten times as much loot as
they took from us in the first place, and that was just for sustaining
another ruse/sting phase of their mutually perpetrated cold war. Of
course, USSR/Russia was doing the exact same thing to their fellow
minions and village idiots. (it always takes at least two to tango)
.. - Brad Guth
jonathan...
Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 6:09 pm
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"steve" <stephen.colbourne at (no spam) comsuper.gov.au> wrote in message
news:3370b08c-ffcc-46b8-acff-71fded841385 at (no spam) d19g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
If we can assume sometime people will visit Mars, surely the more
money available to make it a successful trip the better.
If additional funds can be made available by making it a game show
with product placements, advertising etc. we have increased the
survival chances of the people involved. If national prestige is on
the line as well like in the "Space Race to the Moon" inthe 60's you
will then have a large amount of available resources.
Keep the public involved and they will not mind paying for it.


I think they'll mind watching people die
....live and in living color....don't ya think?

Do we really need to toss someone out the airlock
without a suite to make the point of what happens
if you screw up. She was stating we should do the
long term experiments, just if things go wrong we
don't end the experiment until everyone is dead.
Just to drive the point home.

I don't see why that is necessary, moral or legal in
any way, shape or form whatsoever.
 
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