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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:02 pm |
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Mr. Marks says solar panels made with Lepcon or Lumeloid, the
materials he patented, could turn 70 to 80 percent of the energy from
sunlight they receive into electricity. Most photovoltaic cells are
only about 15 percent efficient. The electricity would cost three or
four cents per kilowatt hour, as against about 10 cents a kilowatt
hour for commercially generated electric power. Most photovoltaic
cells produce energy for around $1 per kilowatt hour.
Typical photovoltaic cells use layers of chemically treated metals
that produce electric current when struck by sunlight. The basic
problem has always been the quantity of current produced per unit cost
of the materials used to produce it.
Lepcon, which was a preliminary design, consists of glass panels
covered with a vast array of millions of aluminum or copper strips,
each less than a micron or thousandth of a millimeter wide. As
sunlight hits the metal strips, the energy in the light is transferred
to electrons in the metal. which escape at one end in the form of
electricity.
Lumeloid uses a similar approach. but substitutes cheaper, filmlike
sheets of plastic for the glass panels and covers the plastic with
conductive polymers, long chains of molecular plastic units. Lumeloid
is easier to manufacture and handle than Lepcon. The company declines,
for competitive reasons, to identify the chemicals it uses to produce
Lumeloid polymers.
There are as yet no large-scale working prototypes of Mr. Mark's
invention, and some scientists have expressed caution in assessing it.
"It is beyond our technological fabrication capability at present,"
said Dr. Edward D. Wolf, the director of the national research
facility for submicron structures at Cornell University, who has
studied Mr Marks's work."But it's an interesting concept."
Professor Stuart A Rice, dean of the division of physical sciences at
the University of Chicago, has also reviewed the patents.
"It is an intellectually challenging idea," he said, "I do not know
whether it can be brought into practice, so I don't know whether to be
optimistic or pessimistic. If it turned out to work, and was very
efficient, it would he very significant."
Mr Marks said he believed Lumeloid would be available for commercial
use within two or three years. He added that Lepcon and Lumeloid could
be used to create lasers, an application he said he had discussed with
the Pentagon in conjunction with Westinghouse.
Mr Marks conceded that getting his ideas to the major prototype stage
would cost around $5 million. Commercial production of solar panels
would cost between $30 million to $5O million, he estimated, and the
preliminary work, supported by Westinghouse, is now underway, he said.
Phototherm plans a $15 million initial public stock offering soon to
help subsidize development of the solar patents.
Mr Marks has more than 100 other patents, Including the film used on
polarized sunglasses, and the process to make 3D movies, and he was
also an energy adviser to president John F. Kennedy.
More information can be obtained from patents; 4,574,161 & 4,720,642.
Dr. Alvin Marks receives patents for two solar power technologies:
Lepcon and Lumeloid. Lepcon consists of glass panels covered with
millions of aluminum or copper strips, each less than a thousandth of
a millimeter wide. As sunlight hits the metal strips, light energy is
transferred to electrons in the metal, which escape at one end in the
form of electricity. Lumeloid is similar but substitutes cheaper,
film-like sheets of plastic for the glass panels and covers the
plastic with conductive polymers
1994
The first solar dish generator to use a free-piston Stirling engine is
hooked up to a utility grid.
The National Renewable Energy Laboratory develops a solar cell made of
gallium indium phosphide and gallium arsenide; it's the first one of
its kind to exceed 30% conversion efficiency.
1998
On August 6, a remote-controlled, solar-powered aircraft,
"Pathfinder," sets an altitude record of 80,000 feet on its 39th
consecutive flight in Monrovia, California — higher than any
prop-driven aircraft to date.
Subhendu Guha, a scientist noted for pioneering work in amorphous
silicon, leads the invention of flexible solar shingles, a roofing
material and state-of-the-art technology for converting sunlight to
electricity on buildings
Researchers at the National Renewable Energy Laboratory
develop a record-breaking prototype solar cell that measures 18.8%
efficient, topping the previous record for thin-film cells by more
than 1%. Cumulative installed photovoltaic capacity reaches 1000
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 8:02 pm |
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On May 10, 6:02 pm, hab... at (no spam) anony.com (habshi) wrote:
Quote: Mr. Marks says solar panels made with Lepcon or Lumeloid, the
materials he patented, could turn 70 to 80 percent of the energy from
sunlight they receive into electricity. Most photovoltaic cells are
only about 15 percent efficient. The electricity would cost three or
four cents per kilowatt hour, as against about 10 cents a kilowatt
hour for commercially generated electric power. Most photovoltaic
cells produce energy for around $1 per kilowatt hour.
Typical photovoltaic cells use layers of chemically treated metals
that produce electric current when struck by sunlight. The basic
problem has always been the quantity of current produced per unit cost
of the materials used to produce it.
Lepcon, which was a preliminary design, consists of glass panels
covered with a vast array of millions of aluminum or copper strips,
each less than a micron or thousandth of a millimeter wide. As
sunlight hits the metal strips, the energy in the light is transferred
to electrons in the metal. which escape at one end in the form of
electricity.
Lumeloid uses a similar approach. but substitutes cheaper, filmlike
sheets of plastic for the glass panels and covers the plastic with
conductive polymers, long chains of molecular plastic units. Lumeloid
is easier to manufacture and handle than Lepcon. The company declines,
for competitive reasons, to identify the chemicals it uses to produce
Lumeloid polymers.
There are as yet no large-scale working prototypes of Mr. Mark's
invention, and some scientists have expressed caution in assessing it.
"It is beyond our technological fabrication capability at present,"
said Dr. Edward D. Wolf, the director of the national research
facility for submicron structures at Cornell University, who has
studied Mr Marks's work."But it's an interesting concept."
Professor Stuart A Rice, dean of the division of physical sciences at
the University of Chicago, has also reviewed the patents.
"It is an intellectually challenging idea," he said, "I do not know
whether it can be brought into practice, so I don't know whether to be
optimistic or pessimistic. If it turned out to work, and was very
efficient, it would he very significant."
Mr Marks said he believed Lumeloid would be available for commercial
use within two or three years. He added that Lepcon and Lumeloid could
be used to create lasers, an application he said he had discussed with
the Pentagon in conjunction with Westinghouse.
Mr Marks conceded that getting his ideas to the major prototype stage
would cost around $5 million. Commercial production of solar panels
would cost between $30 million to $5O million, he estimated, and the
preliminary work, supported by Westinghouse, is now underway, he said.
Phototherm plans a $15 million initial public stock offering soon to
help subsidize development of the solar patents.
Mr Marks has more than 100 other patents, Including the film used on
polarized sunglasses, and the process to make 3D movies, and he was
also an energy adviser to president John F. Kennedy.
More information can be obtained from patents; 4,574,161 & 4,720,642.
Dr. Alvin Marks receives patents for two solar power technologies:
Lepcon and Lumeloid. Lepcon consists of glass panels covered with
millions of aluminum or copper strips, each less than a thousandth of
a millimeter wide. As sunlight hits the metal strips, light energy is
transferred to electrons in the metal, which escape at one end in the
form of electricity. Lumeloid is similar but substitutes cheaper,
film-like sheets of plastic for the glass panels and covers the
plastic with conductive polymers
1994
The first solar dish generator to use a free-piston Stirling engine is
hooked up to a utility grid.
The National Renewable Energy Laboratory develops a solar cell made of
gallium indium phosphide and gallium arsenide; it's the first one of
its kind to exceed 30% conversion efficiency.
1998
On August 6, a remote-controlled, solar-powered aircraft,
"Pathfinder," sets an altitude record of 80,000 feet on its 39th
consecutive flight in Monrovia, California — higher than any
prop-driven aircraft to date.
Subhendu Guha, a scientist noted for pioneering work in amorphous
silicon, leads the invention of flexible solar shingles, a roofing
material and state-of-the-art technology for converting sunlight to
electricity on buildings
Researchers at the National Renewable Energy Laboratory
develop a record-breaking prototype solar cell that measures 18.8%
efficient, topping the previous record for thin-film cells by more
than 1%. Cumulative installed photovoltaic capacity reaches 1000
megawatts, worldwide.
Scam.
David |
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| Eeyore... |
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 9:39 pm |
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habshi wrote:
Quote: Mr. Marks says solar panels made with Lepcon or Lumeloid, the
materials he patented, could turn 70 to 80 percent of the energy from
sunlight they receive into electricity.
IDIOT. |
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| Eeyore... |
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 9:49 pm |
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habshi wrote:
Quote: There are as yet no large-scale working prototypes of Mr. Mark's
invention,
Are there ANY working examples AT ALL (large scale or otherwise) ?
http://www.lumeloid.com/
LMFAO !
http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Marks_Alvin_11432614.aspx
"1. www.ardev.com
www.ardev.com/alvin-marks-back - [Cached]
Published on: 9/19/2000 Last Visited: 12/5/2001
Lumeloid film resulted from many years of dedication by Inventor Dr. Alvin
M. Marks and over 25 researchers at Advanced Research Development Inc.
(ARDI). ARDI has demonstrated Lumeloid's potential. Lumeloid could reach
the market in the year 2001.... "
2001 eh ?
And go to ardev.com and what do you find ? A HEALTHCARE site !
Registrant:
Charles Bartee
4911 Tangen St
Pensacola, Florida 32526
United States
Seems like you're more fuckwiited then usual today 'hash for brains'.
Graham |
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| Eeyore... |
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 9:57 pm |
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habshi wrote:
Is mnetioned here ....
"A tiny generator the size of a grapefruit could be made to provide all
the power your home needs --- from the waste furnace heat now going up
your chimney.
This is the conclusion of physicist and inventor Alvin M. marks, who
recently patented a new way to generate electricity without moving parts,
magnetic fields, or expensive chemical reactions."
http://www.rexresearch.com/marks/marks.htm
Interesting site btw .......
Rex Research: suppressed, dormant,emerging unconventional alternative
technologies: Free energy, Over-Unity, Antigravity, Inventions, Alchemy,
Transmutation, Cannabis Hemp Marijuana, &c
LMFAO.
Graham |
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 7:43 am |
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"habshi" <habshi at (no spam) anony.com> wrote in message
news:4826ad0b.3956000 at (no spam) news.clara.net...
Quote: I like the idea of flat mirror reflectors to concentrate the
light , a lot cheaper than parabolic mirrors
excerpts
In Israel's Negev Desert, engineer Hy Brown is building small
prototype homes that run entirely on solar power. He explains, "We
have the opportunity by putting solar power on each house, more than
what the house(s) use, of turning each house into a mini power plant
which is a different way to provide energy for the Neg. Desert."
Down the road, other work is being done here at the Ben Gurion
National Solar Energy Center. Researchers are working with
concentrated solar collectors that resemble satellite dishes.
Director David Faiman says, "The great feature about concentration
photovoltaics that it solves two problems at the same time. The first
problem is that it uses less expensive photovoltaic material than a
conventional photovoltaic panel. Instead of collecting the light on
the panel itself you collect the light on glass and then you
concentrate it onto a very small amount of this material. When you do
it this way, the efficiency of the cells turns out to be very much
higher than it is if you don't concentrate the light."
Faiman says such concentrated solar panels are more than twice as
efficient as conventional solar panels. He says strategically placing
them throughout the desert could provide limitless environmentally
friendly solar energy.
Energy Conversion fashions solar power modules based on "thin
film" silicon that can be designed into roofs for big-box stores,
airplane hangars and other commercial buildings. With the financial
success of First Solar, investors have taken a shine to the thin-film
concept.
FSLR, however, uses cadmium telluride to convert the sun's rays into
electric power. Both formulas bypass the supply bottleneck and price
inflation that bedevil makers of conventional, slab-style silicon
solar cells, and that's key. Part of Energy Conversion's edge is also
the lightness and flexibility of its wares, making them a convenient
and cost-effective feature in construction.
With its history rooted in R&D, the company has struggled to get its
act together as an efficient manufacturer and sales machine. Now,
tributes
It looks to me like this post is just another scam,
in a long series of scams,
to promote "Energy Conversion" stock,
and put money in the pockets of
Stan Oshinsky and his wife
at the expense of the gullible public.
I knew Stan Oshinsky and his wife,
when they were operating out of a store front
on Six Mile Road in Detroit in the 1960's.
Although Stan and his wife have racked in
hundreds of millions of dollars from the various shell companies
associated with "Energy Conversion" over the years,
their investors have been burned big.
If you take a look at the history of "Energy Conversion"
you will find that HUGH amounts of money goes in,
and a small amount of product comes out.
The company loses money,
the stock drops in value,
the Oshinsky give themselves stock options,
they get gullible and bought politicians to hype the company
they get the price high,
they issue more stock and sucker in more investors,
then the Oshinsky
exercise their numerous stock options at say $10.00,
and sell them at $30.00 at the height of their
stock promotion pitches.
And the pattern repeats and repeats.
If anyone is even thinking about buying this stock,
take a look at their history, and close your ears
to their hype, as they are masters of hype,
as they have been at it for fifty years.
If you examine the track record of this company,
you will find that it subsists by conning new investors ,
and not from making money selling its' product.
This company exists because
"A sucker is born every minute."
--
Tom Potter
http://www.geocities.com/tdp1001/index.html
http://notsocrazyideas.blogspot.com
http://tdp1001.wiki.zoho.com
http://groups.msn.com/PotterPhotos
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:12 am |
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"habshi" <habshi at (no spam) anony.com> wrote in message
news:482644d8.3419390 at (no spam) news.clara.net...
Quote: Mr. Marks says solar panels made with Lepcon or Lumeloid, the
materials he patented, could turn 70 to 80 percent of the energy from
sunlight they receive into electricity.
Original article is 22 years old!
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=technology&res=9A0DE3DE1E3DF93AA3575AC0A960948260
NEW PLASTIC SOLAR DESIGN PROMISES EFFICIENT POWER
E-MAIL
By SCOTT BRONSTEIN
Published: September 9, 1986 |
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 12:20 pm |
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habshi wrote:
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Mr. Marks says solar panels made with Lepcon or Lumeloid, the
materials he patented, could turn 70 to 80 percent of the energy from
sunlight they receive into electricity.
[snip crap]
Given that such a conversion efficiency violates the Second Law of
Thermomdynamics for a single phase converter, YOU invest in it.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2 |
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 4:55 pm |
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In sci.physics habshi <habshi at (no spam) anony.com> wrote:
Quote: I like the idea of flat mirror reflectors to concentrate the
light , a lot cheaper than parabolic mirrors
That's because you are a moron and have no understanding of basic
optics.
You are an idiot.
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 5:05 pm |
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In sci.physics habshi <habshi at (no spam) anony.com> wrote:
Quote: Mr. Marks says solar panels made with Lepcon or Lumeloid, the
materials he patented, could turn 70 to 80 percent of the energy from
sunlight they receive into electricity.
Bullshit.
Only hashbrains the boy idiot would buy into this one.
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| zzbunker at (no spam) netscape.net... |
Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:30 pm |
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On May 11, 6:05 pm, j... at (no spam) specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Quote: In sci.physics habshi <hab... at (no spam) anony.com> wrote:
Mr. Marks says solar panels made with Lepcon or Lumeloid, the
materials he patented, could turn 70 to 80 percent of the energy from
sunlight they receive into electricity.
Bullshit.
Only hashbrains the boy idiot would buy into this one.
Well, they have been bought steadily, since PV was first
discovered,
and made a good number of rich people.
Since we know for sure that the only thing idiot scientists
know about efficiency is Oprah.
Since the morons have to be reminded thrice daily that thermal
efficiency is neither efficiency nor sufficiency, and is far from
the only kind of either.
Quote:
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Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 6:37 pm |
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"Uncle Al" <UncleAl0 at (no spam) hate.spam.net> wrote in message
news:48272AF8.6103F6FE at (no spam) hate.spam.net...
[snip random crap]
Look in the mirror
1) Incompetent individuals tend to overestimate their own level of
skill.
2) Incompetent individuals fail to recognize genuine skill in
others.
3) Incompetent individuals fail to recognize the extremity of their
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