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| David... |
 Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 9:34 am |
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http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/stephenoppenheimer/origins_of_the_british.html
My narrow interest had been in the migration of Celts
from Spain and Portugal 2500 BC to Wales and Ireland
but Oppenheimer has broadened the picture.
For one thing, migration from Scandinavia may have
introduced the first forms of English.
More importantly, genetic research shows that the
Anglo-Saxon invasion contributed only a tiny fraction
to the English gene pool. In the big picture there is
a deep genetic line dividing the English from the rest
of the British people going back 6000 years.
Along the way I discovered Oppenheimer does not
think the question of Celtic origin meaningless as
some academics do. He puts it to Ice Age refugees
in the Basque country. This was a shock to me
because Scythia is out as well as Iron Age Central
Europe.
If some readers find themselves interested, please
come in with more. BTW Oppenheimer's specialty
is in ancient migrations.
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| David... |
| Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:43 am |
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On May 13, 3:38 pm, Peter Alaca <p.al... at (no spam) purple.invalid> wrote:
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If some readers find themselves interested, please
come in with more. BTW Oppenheimer's specialty
is in ancient migrations.
Try the sci.arch archives first
I did try the archives but his fascinating ideas,
not only on the British but also in his other books,
deserve for sci.archers to come in with more. Also,
they could comment on whether Oppenheimer is
a legitimate scholar who deserves to be featured
on the Bradshaw Foundation website.
Specifically, Douglas Clark gave a link, testifying to
Oppenheimer's huge online readership, that fills in
his British origin proposal. It is clear to me that he
is highly informed but his background is not
primarily archaeological -
http://www.prospect-magazine.co.uk/article_details.php?id=9639
Yet, what caught my eye, after reading the Wikipedia
article on Oppenheimer and checking with the Editorial
Review for a certain amazon.com book, was his
challenge to the view of the origins of Polynesians as
Taiwanese rice farmers. From being a sci.arch regular,
I know that Taiwan is a leading theory.
So, I plunged into -
Review of Stephen Oppenheimer's Eden in the East
http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/reviews/atlantis.html
It has strong undertones of alternative archaeology and
Graham Hancock, but I do not discount it. For example,
in 2002 the reviewer's cogent comment on the danger
of sea level rise explains why small nations have politicked
in the UN on global warming. My own view is that
countervailing forces will kick in to blunt sea level rise
and even global warming itself from anything like IPCC
prediction levels but this is still a crystal ball thing and
science does not know.
Further, the reviewer's caution on Austronesian linguistics
is well-informed.
Further well-informed is the reviewer's speculation that
Sundaland was the world leader in the Neolithic Revolution.
Finally, I am intrigued with the reviewer's statement that
the Mundas brought rice cultivation from Southeast Asia
to the Ganga basin.
Would any sci.archer care to take a piece of any of this?
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| Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 2:38 pm |
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David wrote: on, 13/05/2008 21:34:
Quote: http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/stephenoppenheimer/origins_of_the_british.html
My narrow interest had been in the migration of Celts
from Spain and Portugal 2500 BC to Wales and Ireland
but Oppenheimer has broadened the picture.
For one thing, migration from Scandinavia may have
introduced the first forms of English.
More importantly, genetic research shows that the
Anglo-Saxon invasion contributed only a tiny fraction
to the English gene pool. In the big picture there is
a deep genetic line dividing the English from the rest
of the British people going back 6000 years.
Along the way I discovered Oppenheimer does not
think the question of Celtic origin meaningless as
some academics do. He puts it to Ice Age refugees
in the Basque country. This was a shock to me
because Scythia is out as well as Iron Age Central
Europe.
If some readers find themselves interested, please
come in with more. BTW Oppenheimer's specialty
is in ancient migrations.
Try the sci.arch archives first |
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