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On the Destruction of the U.S.A. :
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"Sir Frederick" <mmcne...@fuzzysys.com> wrote in message

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On the Destruction of the U.S.A. :
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Extraordinary Times, Intentional Collapse, and Takedown of the U.S.A.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8854

excellent article full of good ideas, and a fair appraisal of history from a
particular pov ..... re financiers. Everything, including credit, is a two
edged sword. To suggest that the USA is in particular trouble, is an
understatement. The goose is well and trully cooked now [imho] I time of new
opportunities for the courageous and aware. ;-)

I liked the closing:
As these measures are taken, the United States will no longer be dancing to
the financiers' tune. We would be helping prepare a future where man's
inhumanity to man as expressed through war and financial exploitation is no
longer glorified. Such a future would be a milestone in the eventual
enlightenment of the human race. But these are measures that must be
implemented now, before it is too late.

While we await these epochal changes, more modest steps may be in order. The
author is often asked for personal financial advice. His advice is to invest
in yourself and in other people. Plant a robust home garden. Learn new
skills. Start community food co-ops that buy local products. Establish local
currencies and barter networks. Join or form a union. Raise bees. Put kids
through school. Get out of debt. Pray and meditate. Become politically
active. Demand change.

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I'd suggest "BE the change you want to see in the world"

There are others ways than the "norm".

On the Destruction of the U.S.A.

On the Destruction of the U.S.A. :
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Extraordinary Times, Intentional Collapse, and Takedown of the U.S.A.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8854

On May 1, 12:41 pm, "Sean" <waz...@bro.org> wrote:





"Sir Frederick" <mmcne...@fuzzysys.com> wrote in message

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On the Destruction of the U.S.A. :
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Extraordinary Times, Intentional Collapse, and Takedown of the U.S.A.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8854

excellent article full of good ideas, and a fair appraisal of history from a
particular pov ..... re financiers. Everything, including credit, is a two
edged sword. To suggest that the USA is in particular trouble, is an
understatement. The goose is well and trully cooked now [imho] I time of new
opportunities for the courageous and aware. ;-)

I liked the closing:
As these measures are taken, the United States will no longer be dancing to
the financiers' tune. We would be helping prepare a future where man's
inhumanity to man as expressed through war and financial exploitation is no
longer glorified. Such a future would be a milestone in the eventual
enlightenment of the human race. But these are measures that must be
implemented now, before it is too late.

While we await these epochal changes, more modest steps may be in order. The
author is often asked for personal financial advice. His advice is to invest
in yourself and in other people. Plant a robust home garden. Learn new
skills. Start community food co-ops that buy local products. Establish local
currencies and barter networks. Join or form a union. Raise bees. Put kids
through school. Get out of debt. Pray and meditate. Become politically
active. Demand change.

------------------------------------------------

I'd suggest "BE the change you want to see in the world"

There are others ways than the "norm".

Lot's of noble idea's but generally people aren't even able to control
the amount of food they consume.

How about moving to Denmark or Switzerland. Those must be great
countries. They do lots of these things. But of course they're not
great countries and they have just as many problems with many more to
come. And they are unable to defend themselves against any superpower.

Things need to be regulated. Like lending money. Gas. Everything
basically. And this applies to all humans. Hence there should be a
globalization of regulation with small steps to abolishing the idea of
countries. Which is basically what is happening imo.- Hide quoted text -

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"Sir Frederick" <mmcne...@fuzzysys.com> wrote in message

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Read this thread...
sheese Sir...looks like the internet has been taken over by a bunch of
bolshevik socialists [if posters in this thread are any sign].  At least
turtoni showed his colors here, ha. 'ultra Regulated' economies are command
economies and are either smothered in beauracy that destroys incentives big
time or are outright tyrannies that destroys freedom itself.  They
economically 'shrink' in time, and die.

The thing that scares me about economic collapse is 'foreign investment'
that has bolstered the US economy for decades now seems to be tetering with
the decline of the dollar.  But latest figures show the US economy still
growing, though at a slower pace [.6% GDP growth last quarter I think I
read].  Technically, it takes two subsequent quarters of negative growth
just to constitute a recession, much less a depression.  Gas prices scare us
all, but we are nowhere near a 'depression'...yet.

The talk is mostly political in an election year, although coupled with the
housing market, there is pause for concern.  It is just not the crisis level
that many would have us think...again...yet.  One thing that could push into
a recession is the very talk that is going around, as it influences behavior
and can actually create bear markets.  Incentives matter...but so do
expectations.

If security is the prime election issue, then McCain has the upper hand.
But if economy is the issue, then Obama's party will have the edge.  That
should give us a clue.

BTW, the article started insteresting, but then deteriated into conspiracy
poop.   Power and influence is not necessarily a conspiracy.  Take Hillary
for instance...hehe.  Well, then again...

But it is true that globalization has been in the planning since WWII.  But
it is no secret.  Various economic summits gave birth to the EU [a full
monetary union], NAFTA, pacific bloc of trading partners, and one in central
and south America [forget all the acrynoms].  But these were only steps
toward a world integration in time.  Nation states would theroetically
eventually dissolve into these new political unions in stages.

Personally, I think the plan is diabolical since it must erradicate the
familial linkage we carry as heritage.  But it's impetus was indeed
economic...to make better use of resources planet wide.  Stumbling blocks
are things like strategic resources which cannot be allocated well through
trade [too important to survival].  Personally, I ask, "what the hell where
they thinking (the bigwig capitalists)", when 1)culture differences across
the world are too wide [you can't just throw millions of second world
Mexicanos in with industrial middles classes and expect there not to be
inordinate strife...or muslims in with Christians etc...2) it means
dismantling the very thing that analysts determined probably saved europe
from the bolshevik revolution way back when...National Loyalty.  As national
zeal declines, why wouldn't socialist fervor rise?  Especially when you have
all them "poor" mexicans being allowed to vote, ha.

People do not like being made the political football of intellectuals and
power monging politicos.  We want to be and are 'CITIZENS'...not consumers,
or bourgeoise, or proletariet, or householders...but full particpants in the
survival of the species and higher eshelons of organization, ergo
civilization.  The global planners have intellectually dismissed the
identity of a German, or a Frenchman, or Irishman or Mexican, or Muslim...to
throw human identity into one barrell as 'labor and capital'.  And thusly
are their plans drawn upon this 'empty barrel' of zombie creatures that 'do
work' and 'consume' but not much else is condered 'important'.  This is why
national borders are slowly being erased.  Between nations like Canada and
the USA or even most of Europe, perhaps not as culturally problematic.  But
to open industrial nations to third world nations is a formula for the
destruction of middle classes...and the undermine of the very basis for
nation building, it's heritage and familial underpinnings.  But...this is
what the globalists have planned for us.  They describe what are SOME
hardships along the say they say, but explain it as 'structrual shifts',
another intellectualism that mesmerizes us into selling our heritages down
the toilet. And so we are 'reconstructed' to buy into new world values of
tolerance and multiculturism.

Our instincts should be up in arms already...but we are mulled into
accepting all this, while something deep at our core is screaming bloody
murder; something smells quite rotten in Denmark for most of the middle
classes in the western world...'Who the fuck is selling us down the
river"???  Well, like I said, look to the world bank, WTO, and economic
advisors across the west...and indeed, the financiers that control it all.

Bah!!  We saw what 'intellectualism' did to the suffering people of the old
USSR.  It became a tool of the powerful to simply create a dictatorship.
Today, that same intellectualism promises to rob us of our national domains,
our cultura heritage, and reduce all human identity to little more than
organic tools of production.  The math is in their favor.  All we have to
resist is our instinct.

On the Destruction of the U.S.A. :
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Extraordinary Times, Intentional Collapse, and Takedown of the U.S.A.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8854

On the Destruction of the U.S.A. :
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Extraordinary Times, Intentional Collapse, and Takedown of the U.S.A.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=8854