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Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:27 pm |
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How do electrons which are repulsive form lightening? How would they
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 10:50 am |
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:21 pm |
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On Apr 30, 11:27 pm, mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com wrote:
Quote: How do electrons which are repulsive form lightening?
They are attracted to positive ions nearby.
Quote: How would they
gather together in a stroke and be repulsive at the same time?
They all follow the path of least resistance - to the positive ions,
of course.
Tom Davidson
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 2:27 pm |
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On May 1, 8:50 am, Uncle Al <Uncle...@hate.spam.net> wrote:
Quote: mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com wrote:
How do electrons which are repulsive form lightening? How would they
gather together in a stroke and be repulsive at the same time?
Rub your feet on a more affluent neighbor's carpet on a dry day and
touch a grounded conductor. See the concentrated spark? THETA PINCH.
What physical appendage would you recommend
to perform that experiment?
Ken |
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 3:15 pm |
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On May 1, 4:21 pm, tadchem <tadc...@comcast.net> wrote:
Quote: On Apr 30, 11:27 pm, mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com wrote:
How do electrons which are repulsive form lightening?
They are attracted to positive ions nearby.
How would they
gather together in a stroke and be repulsive at the same time?
They all follow the path of least resistance - to the positive ions,
of course.
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
What is creating the ions? How did they loose the electron? |
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:14 pm |
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On May 1, 6:19 pm, Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote:
Quote: On Thu, 1 May 2008 17:21:44 -0700 (PDT), tadchem <tadc...@comcast.net
wrote:
On Apr 30, 11:27 pm, mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com wrote:
How do electrons which are repulsive form lightening?
They are attracted to positive ions nearby.
How would they
gather together in a stroke and be repulsive at the same time?
They all follow the path of least resistance - to the positive ions,
of course.
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
This brings up a question that I have never found an answer for. Back
in the olden days, before Rural Electrification, the country was
largely without any extensive electrical conductors other than
railroad tracks. The cloud charge and it's balancing ground charge
have to move along together, more or less. Did the storm cells tend to
follow the railroads if they happened to be laid out in approximately
the same direction the storm was moving?
I'm thinking of two severe tornados that followed the Santa Fe
railroad tracks from near Amarillo, Texas to near Wichita, Kansas,
back in the spring of 1947. Did these two storms, about two weeks
apart, follow the railroad tracks because of the lower resistance
afforded the ground charge by the iron rails?
Gordon
Dang, that's an intersting thought!!!
Thank you
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 4:20 pm |
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On May 1, 5:55 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Quote: In sci.physics Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote:
On Thu, 1 May 2008 17:21:44 -0700 (PDT), tadchem <tadc...@comcast.net
wrote:
On Apr 30, 11:27 pm, mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com wrote:
How do electrons which are repulsive form lightening?
They are attracted to positive ions nearby.
How would they
gather together in a stroke and be repulsive at the same time?
They all follow the path of least resistance - to the positive ions,
of course.
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
This brings up a question that I have never found an answer for. Back
in the olden days, before Rural Electrification, the country was
largely without any extensive electrical conductors other than
railroad tracks. The cloud charge and it's balancing ground charge
have to move along together, more or less. Did the storm cells tend to
follow the railroads if they happened to be laid out in approximately
the same direction the storm was moving?
I'm thinking of two severe tornados that followed the Santa Fe
railroad tracks from near Amarillo, Texas to near Wichita, Kansas,
back in the spring of 1947. Did these two storms, about two weeks
apart, follow the railroad tracks because of the lower resistance
afforded the ground charge by the iron rails?
There is no "balancing ground charge", clouds have excess charge.
Both weather and railroads tend to follow valleys, though for
different reasons.
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Jim Pennino
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How do the same charges gather?
Mitch Raemsch |
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 6:55 pm |
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On May 1, 8:35 pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
Quote: In sci.physics mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com wrote:
On May 1, 5:55?pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
In sci.physics Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote:
On Thu, 1 May 2008 17:21:44 -0700 (PDT), tadchem <tadc...@comcast.net
wrote:
On Apr 30, 11:27 pm, mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com wrote:
How do electrons which are repulsive form lightening?
They are attracted to positive ions nearby.
How would they
gather together in a stroke and be repulsive at the same time?
They all follow the path of least resistance - to the positive ions,
of course.
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
This brings up a question that I have never found an answer for. Back
in the olden days, before Rural Electrification, the country was
largely without any extensive electrical conductors other than
railroad tracks. The cloud charge and it's balancing ground charge
have to move along together, more or less. Did the storm cells tend to
follow the railroads if they happened to be laid out in approximately
the same direction the storm was moving?
I'm thinking of two severe tornados that followed the Santa Fe
railroad tracks from near Amarillo, Texas to near Wichita, Kansas,
back in the spring of 1947. Did these two storms, about two weeks
apart, follow the railroad tracks because of the lower resistance
afforded the ground charge by the iron rails?
There is no "balancing ground charge", clouds have excess charge.
Both weather and railroads tend to follow valleys, though for
different reasons.
--
Jim Pennino
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How do the same charges gather?
Mitch Raemsch
If you had payed attention in grade school science class you wouldn't
be asking the question.
You are obviously not smarter than a 5th grader.
--
Jim Pennino
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Like charges they are repulsive. How will they then gather together?
Like in lightening. |
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:19 pm |
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On Thu, 1 May 2008 17:21:44 -0700 (PDT), tadchem <tadchem@comcast.net>
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Quote: On Apr 30, 11:27 pm, mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com wrote:
How do electrons which are repulsive form lightening?
They are attracted to positive ions nearby.
How would they
gather together in a stroke and be repulsive at the same time?
They all follow the path of least resistance - to the positive ions,
of course.
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
This brings up a question that I have never found an answer for. Back
in the olden days, before Rural Electrification, the country was
largely without any extensive electrical conductors other than
railroad tracks. The cloud charge and it's balancing ground charge
have to move along together, more or less. Did the storm cells tend to
follow the railroads if they happened to be laid out in approximately
the same direction the storm was moving?
I'm thinking of two severe tornados that followed the Santa Fe
railroad tracks from near Amarillo, Texas to near Wichita, Kansas,
back in the spring of 1947. Did these two storms, about two weeks
apart, follow the railroad tracks because of the lower resistance
afforded the ground charge by the iron rails?
Gordon |
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 8:55 pm |
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In sci.physics Antares 531 <gordonlrDELETE@swbell.net> wrote:
Quote: On Thu, 1 May 2008 17:21:44 -0700 (PDT), tadchem <tadchem@comcast.net
wrote:
On Apr 30, 11:27 pm, mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com wrote:
How do electrons which are repulsive form lightening?
They are attracted to positive ions nearby.
How would they
gather together in a stroke and be repulsive at the same time?
They all follow the path of least resistance - to the positive ions,
of course.
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
This brings up a question that I have never found an answer for. Back
in the olden days, before Rural Electrification, the country was
largely without any extensive electrical conductors other than
railroad tracks. The cloud charge and it's balancing ground charge
have to move along together, more or less. Did the storm cells tend to
follow the railroads if they happened to be laid out in approximately
the same direction the storm was moving?
I'm thinking of two severe tornados that followed the Santa Fe
railroad tracks from near Amarillo, Texas to near Wichita, Kansas,
back in the spring of 1947. Did these two storms, about two weeks
apart, follow the railroad tracks because of the lower resistance
afforded the ground charge by the iron rails?
There is no "balancing ground charge", clouds have excess charge.
Both weather and railroads tend to follow valleys, though for
different reasons.
--
Jim Pennino
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Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:35 pm |
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In sci.physics mitch.nicolas.raemsch@gmail.com wrote:
Quote: On May 1, 5:55?pm, j...@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
In sci.physics Antares 531 <gordonlrDEL...@swbell.net> wrote:
On Thu, 1 May 2008 17:21:44 -0700 (PDT), tadchem <tadc...@comcast.net
wrote:
On Apr 30, 11:27 pm, mitch.nicolas.raem...@gmail.com wrote:
How do electrons which are repulsive form lightening?
They are attracted to positive ions nearby.
How would they
gather together in a stroke and be repulsive at the same time?
They all follow the path of least resistance - to the positive ions,
of course.
Tom Davidson
Richmond, VA
This brings up a question that I have never found an answer for. Back
in the olden days, before Rural Electrification, the country was
largely without any extensive electrical conductors other than
railroad tracks. The cloud charge and it's balancing ground charge
have to move along together, more or less. Did the storm cells tend to
follow the railroads if they happened to be laid out in approximately
the same direction the storm was moving?
I'm thinking of two severe tornados that followed the Santa Fe
railroad tracks from near Amarillo, Texas to near Wichita, Kansas,
back in the spring of 1947. Did these two storms, about two weeks
apart, follow the railroad tracks because of the lower resistance
afforded the ground charge by the iron rails?
There is no "balancing ground charge", clouds have excess charge.
Both weather and railroads tend to follow valleys, though for
different reasons.
--
Jim Pennino
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How do the same charges gather?
Mitch Raemsch
If you had payed attention in grade school science class you wouldn't
be asking the question.
You are obviously not smarter than a 5th grader.
--
Jim Pennino
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