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| Fred Jones |
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Simply take a moment to think about the following statement:
"Hello, my name is Jesus. I love you deeply. I have loved you since you were
conceived in the womb and I will love you for all eternity. I died for you on
the cross because I love you so much. I long to have a loving personal
relationship with you. I will answer all of your prayers through my love. But if
you do not get down on your knees and worship me, and if you do not EAT MY BODY
and DRINK MY BLOOD, then I WILL INCINERATE YOU WITH UNIMAGINABLY TORTUOUS PAIN
IN THE FIRES OF HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!!"
Yes, this is the central message of Christianity. See John 6:53-54 and Mark
16:16.
Think about this message. We have a being who, according to the Standard Model
of God, embodies love. Yet, if you do not get down on your knees and worship
him, you will be physically tortured for all eternity. What sort of love is
that?
The utter silliness and contradiction of Jesus' core message should make it
obvious to you: God is imaginary. |
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| Mike Mordant |
| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:46 pm |
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On Apr 23, 4:10 pm, Andrew <thecr...@macunlimited.net> wrote:
Quote: On 2008-04-23 18:04:11 +0100, "Fred Jones" <supportsys...@juno.com> said:
Simply take a moment to think about the following statement:
"Hello, my name is Jesus. I love you deeply. I have loved you since you
were conceived in the womb and I will love you for all eternity. I died
for you on the cross because I love you so much. I long to have a
loving personal relationship with you. I will answer all of your
prayers through my love. But if you do not get down on your knees and
worship me, and if you do not EAT MY BODY and DRINK MY BLOOD, then I
WILL INCINERATE YOU WITH UNIMAGINABLY TORTUOUS PAIN IN THE FIRES OF
HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!!"
Yes, this is the central message of Christianity. See John 6:53-54 and
Mark 16:16.
Your reading is deeply faulty. In the texts you mention Jesus does not
mention torturous pain, nor the fires of Hell, nor, indeed, eternity.
Nor does he mention knees, or worshipping him. You seem to be confusing
the Bible with some medieaval wall ainting or something. This is about
as far from the central message of Christianity as it is possible to
get.
Think about this message. We have a being who, according to the
Standard Model of God, embodies love. Yet, if you do not get down on
your knees and worship him, you will be physically tortured for all
eternity.
Jesus never mentions anyone being physically tortured for all eternity.
What sort of love is that?
The utter silliness and contradiction of Jesus' core message should
make it obvious to you: God is imaginary.
The silliness comes from trying to fit your rather jaundiced
preconceptions of Christian belief into a logical argument. Speaking of
logic, by the way, you do realise that the last clause in your post is
non sequitur, don't you?
O Lord please don't burn us,
don't gril or toast your flock.
Don't put us on the barbecue,
or simmer us in stock.
Don't braise or bake or boil us
or stir fry us in a wok.
Oh please don't lightly poach us
or bast us with hot fat.
Don't fricassee or roast us
or boil us in a vat,
and please don't stick thy servant Lord
in a Rotissomat.
Amen
Oh please pray tell us just which version of Christianity you
subscribe to --- There are so many with mutually contradictory dogma
it's hard to keep track.
On second thought, never mind. I've read your Bible several times and
besides from being a completely unbelievable tome it tells the story
of a petulant god bent on destroying people. In fact, I'll most
likely ignore any response you are likely to give, after having a
hearty laugh over the nonsense you spew. |
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| Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD |
| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:56 pm |
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| Andrew |
| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:10 pm |
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On 2008-04-23 18:04:11 +0100, "Fred Jones" <supportsystem@juno.com> said:
Quote: Simply take a moment to think about the following statement:
"Hello, my name is Jesus. I love you deeply. I have loved you since you
were conceived in the womb and I will love you for all eternity. I died
for you on the cross because I love you so much. I long to have a
loving personal relationship with you. I will answer all of your
prayers through my love. But if you do not get down on your knees and
worship me, and if you do not EAT MY BODY and DRINK MY BLOOD, then I
WILL INCINERATE YOU WITH UNIMAGINABLY TORTUOUS PAIN IN THE FIRES OF
HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!!"
Yes, this is the central message of Christianity. See John 6:53-54 and
Mark 16:16.
Your reading is deeply faulty. In the texts you mention Jesus does not
mention torturous pain, nor the fires of Hell, nor, indeed, eternity.
Nor does he mention knees, or worshipping him. You seem to be confusing
the Bible with some medieaval wall ainting or something. This is about
as far from the central message of Christianity as it is possible to
get.
Quote: Think about this message. We have a being who, according to the
Standard Model of God, embodies love. Yet, if you do not get down on
your knees and worship him, you will be physically tortured for all
eternity.
Jesus never mentions anyone being physically tortured for all eternity.
Quote: What sort of love is that?
The utter silliness and contradiction of Jesus' core message should
make it obvious to you: God is imaginary.
The silliness comes from trying to fit your rather jaundiced
preconceptions of Christian belief into a logical argument. Speaking of
logic, by the way, you do realise that the last clause in your post is
non sequitur, don't you? |
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| Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD |
| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:41 pm |
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Blattus Slafaly ? (3) ¼  wrote:
Quote: Fred Jones wrote:
Simply take a moment to think about the following statement:
"Hello, my name is Jesus. I love you deeply. I have loved you since you
were conceived in the womb and I will love you for all eternity. I died
for you on the cross because I love you so much. I long to have a loving
personal relationship with you. I will answer all of your prayers
through my love. But if you do not get down on your knees and worship
me, and if you do not EAT MY BODY and DRINK MY BLOOD, then I WILL
INCINERATE YOU WITH UNIMAGINABLY TORTUOUS PAIN IN THE FIRES OF HELL FOR
ALL ETERNITY!!!!"
Yes, this is the central message of Christianity. See John 6:53-54 and
Mark 16:16.
Think about this message. We have a being who, according to the Standard
Model of God, embodies love. Yet, if you do not get down on your knees
and worship him, you will be physically tortured for all eternity. What
sort of love is that?
The utter silliness and contradiction of Jesus' core message should make
it obvious to you: God is imaginary.
Jesus is love? So why are christians assholes? Shouldn't they be copying
him?
If we could, we wouldn't need HIM to save us from ourselves:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/JesusChrist
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http://HeartMDPhD.com/HolySpirit/Warns |
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| guardian Snow |
| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:51 pm |
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On Apr 24, 12:41 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
Chung, your the one that goes around condemning everybody as Satan.
Luk 6:37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye
shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
You go around telling EVERYBODY they are sock puppets, Satans,
worthless and a dozen other childish little names in your two link
spams. I politely asked you to reserve your post to one thread and
your 1st grade response was to call me Satan.
Jesus saves us from sin, not from acting like a irresponsible jerk
accusing everybody. What would the message boards be like if
everybody went around acting like you and just placed DOZENS of post
with NOTHING but a couple of links?
Get help and stop spamming,
Snow
http://groups.google.com/group/i-hate-andrew-b-chung-mdphds-spam?msg=new&lnk=gcis
Leave a good joke or post your comments about Chung.
KFC 31:10 And Chung said, "Let my nuggets go", Be Hungry. But there
were certain moo's that when they saw the superchick, they battered
him till he fried.
A return to first principles in a republic is sometimes caused by the
simple virtues of one man. His good example has such an influence that
the good men strive to imitate him, and the wicked are ashamed to lead
a life so contrary to his example.
Niccolo Machiavelli |
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| Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD |
| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:54 pm |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:58 pm |
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On Apr 23, 11:54 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<heartdo...@emorycardiology.com> wrote:
<Chung Dung snipped>
Do you know the secret to mental health?; to being successful in life
in raising a family, having healthy relationships, working well with
others? If one is not able to get along with the day to day tasks of
living successfully in this present life then one has no hope of
managing the spiritual side of life. If one doesn't have the capacity
for self discovery and honest reflection in this life then one hasn't
much to look forward to in the next life. Are you living in an honest
fashion with integrity? What kind of karma do you have? Have you
generated light or just heat? |
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| Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD |
| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:05 pm |
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| Fred Jones |
| Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:03 pm |
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What a twist, you denying the the fate that christendom preaches to us pagans??
"Andrew" <thecroft@macunlimited.net> wrote in message
news:2008042322102450073-thecroft@macunlimitednet...
Quote: On 2008-04-23 18:04:11 +0100, "Fred Jones" <supportsystem@juno.com> said:
Simply take a moment to think about the following statement:
"Hello, my name is Jesus. I love you deeply. I have loved you since you were
conceived in the womb and I will love you for all eternity. I died for you on
the cross because I love you so much. I long to have a loving personal
relationship with you. I will answer all of your prayers through my love. But
if you do not get down on your knees and worship me, and if you do not EAT MY
BODY and DRINK MY BLOOD, then I WILL INCINERATE YOU WITH UNIMAGINABLY
TORTUOUS PAIN IN THE FIRES OF HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!!"
Yes, this is the central message of Christianity. See John 6:53-54 and Mark
16:16.
Your reading is deeply faulty. In the texts you mention Jesus does not mention
torturous pain, nor the fires of Hell, nor, indeed, eternity. Nor does he
mention knees, or worshipping him. You seem to be confusing the Bible with
some medieaval wall ainting or something. This is about as far from the
central message of Christianity as it is possible to get.
Think about this message. We have a being who, according to the Standard
Model of God, embodies love. Yet, if you do not get down on your knees and
worship him, you will be physically tortured for all eternity.
Jesus never mentions anyone being physically tortured for all eternity.
What sort of love is that?
The utter silliness and contradiction of Jesus' core message should make it
obvious to you: God is imaginary.
The silliness comes from trying to fit your rather jaundiced preconceptions of
Christian belief into a logical argument. Speaking of logic, by the way, you
do realise that the last clause in your post is non sequitur, don't you?
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| Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD |
| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:40 am |
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| bob young |
| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:29 am |
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Andrew wrote:
Quote:
On 2008-04-23 18:04:11 +0100, "Fred Jones" <supportsystem@juno.com> said:
Simply take a moment to think about the following statement:
"Hello, my name is Jesus. I love you deeply. I have loved you since you
were conceived in the womb and I will love you for all eternity. I died
for you on the cross because I love you so much. I long to have a
loving personal relationship with you. I will answer all of your
prayers through my love. But if you do not get down on your knees and
worship me, and if you do not EAT MY BODY and DRINK MY BLOOD, then I
WILL INCINERATE YOU WITH UNIMAGINABLY TORTUOUS PAIN IN THE FIRES OF
HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!!"
Yes, this is the central message of Christianity. See John 6:53-54 and
Mark 16:16.
Your reading is deeply faulty. In the texts you mention Jesus does not
mention torturous pain, nor the fires of Hell, nor, indeed, eternity.
Other members of 'His' club certainly do. If one follows
Christianity then the above certainly applies
Quote: Nor does he mention knees, or worshipping him.
The fact the majority do indeed get on their knees is enough
for a thinking person using logic methinks !
You seem to be confusing
Quote: the Bible with some medieaval wall ainting or something. This is about
as far from the central message of Christianity as it is possible to
get.
Think about this message. We have a being who, according to the
Standard Model of God, embodies love. Yet, if you do not get down on
your knees and worship him, you will be physically tortured for all
eternity.
Jesus never mentions anyone being physically tortured for all eternity.
Well not exactly, but after his death there's no doubt 'He'
goes to heaven and sits next to god for eternity and whilst
on the cross calls out [so the myth writers would have us
understand] Father Father why hast thou forsaken me ?
Which all adds up to the same thing
It's that nasty stuff 'logic' creeping in again isn't it?
Quote:
What sort of love is that?
The utter silliness and contradiction of Jesus' core message should
make it obvious to you: God is imaginary.
The silliness comes from trying to fit your rather jaundiced
preconceptions of Christian belief into a logical argument. Speaking of
logic, by the way, you do realise that the last clause in your post is
non sequitur, don't you? |
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| Andrew |
| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:19 pm |
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On 2008-04-24 00:46:51 +0100, Mike Mordant <mikemordant@yahoo.com> said:
Quote: On Apr 23, 4:10 pm, Andrew <thecr...@macunlimited.net> wrote:
On 2008-04-23 18:04:11 +0100, "Fred Jones" <supportsys...@juno.com> said:
Simply take a moment to think about the following statement:
"Hello, my name is Jesus. I love you deeply. I have loved you since you
were conceived in the womb and I will love you for all eternity. I died
for you on the cross because I love you so much. I long to have a
loving personal relationship with you. I will answer all of your
prayers through my love. But if you do not get down on your knees and
worship me, and if you do not EAT MY BODY and DRINK MY BLOOD, then I
WILL INCINERATE YOU WITH UNIMAGINABLY TORTUOUS PAIN IN THE FIRES OF
HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!!"
Yes, this is the central message of Christianity. See John 6:53-54 and
Mark 16:16.
Your reading is deeply faulty. In the texts you mention Jesus does not
mention torturous pain, nor the fires of Hell, nor, indeed, eternity.
Nor does he mention knees, or worshipping him. You seem to be confusing
the Bible with some medieaval wall ainting or something. This is about
as far from the central message of Christianity as it is possible to
get.
Think about this message. We have a being who, according to the
Standard Model of God, embodies love. Yet, if you do not get down on
your knees and worship him, you will be physically tortured for all
eternity.
Jesus never mentions anyone being physically tortured for all eternity.
What sort of love is that?
The utter silliness and contradiction of Jesus' core message should
make it obvious to you: God is imaginary.
The silliness comes from trying to fit your rather jaundiced
preconceptions of Christian belief into a logical argument. Speaking of
logic, by the way, you do realise that the last clause in your post is
non sequitur, don't you?
O Lord please don't burn us,
don't gril or toast your flock.
Don't put us on the barbecue,
or simmer us in stock.
Don't braise or bake or boil us
or stir fry us in a wok.
Oh please don't lightly poach us
or bast us with hot fat.
Don't fricassee or roast us
or boil us in a vat,
and please don't stick thy servant Lord
in a Rotissomat.
Amen
Oh please pray tell us just which version of Christianity you
subscribe to --- There are so many with mutually contradictory dogma
it's hard to keep track.
On second thought, never mind. I've read your Bible several times and
besides from being a completely unbelievable tome it tells the story
of a petulant god bent on destroying people. In fact, I'll most
likely ignore any response you are likely to give, after having a
hearty laugh over the nonsense you spew.
Small clue. It's the Bible hat doesn't include the gibberish you gave
us above about rotisseries and what not. |
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| Andrew |
| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:20 pm |
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On 2008-04-24 05:03:52 +0100, "Fred Jones" <supportsystem@juno.com> said:
Quote: What a twist, you denying the the fate that christendom preaches to us pagans??
Probably. But since I don't really know which twisted version of the
Gospel you're working from, I can't be sure.
Quote: "Andrew" <thecroft@macunlimited.net> wrote in message
news:2008042322102450073-thecroft@macunlimitednet...
On 2008-04-23 18:04:11 +0100, "Fred Jones" <supportsystem@juno.com> said:
Simply take a moment to think about the following statement:
"Hello, my name is Jesus. I love you deeply. I have loved you since you
were conceived in the womb and I will love you for all eternity. I died
for you on the cross because I love you so much. I long to have a
loving personal relationship with you. I will answer all of your
prayers through my love. But if you do not get down on your knees and
worship me, and if you do not EAT MY BODY and DRINK MY BLOOD, then I
WILL INCINERATE YOU WITH UNIMAGINABLY TORTUOUS PAIN IN THE FIRES OF
HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!!"
Yes, this is the central message of Christianity. See John 6:53-54 and
Mark 16:16.
Your reading is deeply faulty. In the texts you mention Jesus does not
mention torturous pain, nor the fires of Hell, nor, indeed, eternity.
Nor does he mention knees, or worshipping him. You seem to be confusing
the Bible with some medieaval wall ainting or something. This is about
as far from the central message of Christianity as it is possible to
get.
Think about this message. We have a being who, according to the
Standard Model of God, embodies love. Yet, if you do not get down on
your knees and worship him, you will be physically tortured for all
eternity.
Jesus never mentions anyone being physically tortured for all eternity.
What sort of love is that?
The utter silliness and contradiction of Jesus' core message should
make it obvious to you: God is imaginary.
The silliness comes from trying to fit your rather jaundiced
preconceptions of Christian belief into a logical argument. Speaking of
logic, by the way, you do realise that the last clause in your post is
non sequitur, don't you? |
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| Andrew |
| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:23 pm |
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On 2008-04-24 11:29:04 +0100, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com> said:
Quote: Your reading is deeply faulty. In the texts you mention Jesus does not
mention torturous pain, nor the fires of Hell, nor, indeed, eternity.
Other members of 'His' club certainly do. If one follows
Christianity then the above certainly applies
Really? 500 years ago, maybe. Do keep up.
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Nor does he mention knees, or worshipping him.
The fact the majority do indeed get on their knees is enough
for a thinking person using logic methinks !
That has no relevance with regard to the argument here, though. The
point is that, contrary to the OP Christ makes no such demand.
Quote:
You seem to be confusing
the Bible with some medieaval wall ainting or something. This is about
as far from the central message of Christianity as it is possible to
get.
Think about this message. We have a being who, according to the
Standard Model of God, embodies love. Yet, if you do not get down on
your knees and worship him, you will be physically tortured for all
eternity.
Jesus never mentions anyone being physically tortured for all eternity.
Well not exactly, but after his death there's no doubt 'He'
goes to heaven and sits next to god for eternity and whilst
on the cross calls out [so the myth writers would have us
understand] Father Father why hast thou forsaken me ?
Which all adds up to the same thing
Not at all - I really don't see the argument you're making here.
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It's that nasty stuff 'logic' creeping in again isn't it?
It would be, if this included any. |
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