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Guest
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:25 am
Humor research has been handicapped by the lines of approached
applide
by thinkers from antiquity to the present day. The main one being,
using the word "humor" on a neurological level when it is merely a
construct that has a vague, general meaning only applicable in
cultural intercourse.

I have posted an essay on a Google Page: Laughing and crying as
displacement activities: the implications for humor theory.


Go to the site below, scroll down until you see the elephant and
blind
men, and click on "A new theory of humor".


http://www.humorlinks.com/cgi-bin/sites/page.cgi?g=Academic%2Findex.h...


I have attempted to show that viewing laughter as a displacement
activity (defined in the essay) and explaining why it is confusing to
use the term humor in certain contexts, answers the major problems
encountered by humor researchers.


I think you will enjoy the read.


Basil
verulam
Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:34 am
Guest
Basil,
On my machine, at least, the link below does not work.

However, since I know a little about this field and have previously
looked at your work, I think it might be a good idea to offer a few
brief comments.

Humour is a puzzle and a very interesting subject. As a phenomenon, it
is well-nigh unique to humans - though the infra-human primates
exhibit some behaviours that are suggestive about its origins.

Coming to your work, I would first comment that I am unclear as to how
you come to your position. From a theoretical point of view, the idea
of a "displacement activity" does not seem like some fundamental
concept upon which you can safely build a body of theory. Constructing
theory that way leaves questions begged - for example, "what is the
origin and purpose of a displacement activity?" The result is that, as
a piece of theory, it does not seem to me that your work sits on any
solid foundation. However, that does not mean it is wrong, only that I
can see no theoretical reason to think it correct.

The way one hopes to see theories arbitrated is via the outcome of
experiment and that raises my next problem with your work. To put it
simply, I do not recall seeing you suggest any means of testing your
theory.

What operationally testable observations can you suggest that might
support your theory in competition with alternative approaches? Have
you reviewed the literature to find any existing body of observation
that might support or refute your ideas? From looking at your work, I
do not recall seeing any attention to such issues.

For these reasons I am not convinced by your work. In preference, I
stand by my own approach to understanding humour which, as you know,
is the "IFF Theory of Humor" and which can be found on my own web
site. Unlike your work, it does seems well-founded theoretically and
does survive a number of tests.

Sincerely

John Hewitt

On Apr 16, 6:25 pm, bafah...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
Quote:
Humor research has been handicapped by the lines of approached
applide
by thinkers from antiquity to the present day. The main one being,
using the word "humor" on a neurological level when it is merely a
construct that has a vague, general meaning only applicable in
cultural intercourse.

I have posted an essay on a Google Page: Laughing and crying as
displacement activities: the implications for humor theory.

Go to the site below, scroll down until you see the elephant and
blind
men, and click on "A new theory of humor".

http://www.humorlinks.com/cgi-bin/sites/page.cgi?g=Academic%2Findex.h...

I have attempted to show that viewing laughter as a displacement
activity (defined in the essay) and explaining why it is confusing to
use the term humor in certain contexts, answers the major problems
encountered by humor researchers.

I think you will enjoy the read.

Basil
Basil
Posted: Sat Apr 19, 2008 8:13 pm
Guest
On Apr 19, 5:34 am, verulam <johnhewit...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
Basil,
On my machine, at least, the link below does not work.

However, since I know a little about this field and have previously
looked at your work, I think it might be a good idea to offer a few
brief comments.

Humour is a puzzle and a very interesting subject. As a phenomenon, it
is well-nigh unique to humans - though the infra-human primates
exhibit some behaviours that are suggestive about its origins.

Coming to your work, I would first comment that I am unclear as to how
you come to your position. From a theoretical point of view, the idea
of a "displacement activity" does not seem like some fundamental
concept upon which you can safely build a body of theory. Constructing
theory that way leaves questions begged - for example, "what is the
origin and purpose of a displacement activity?" The result is that, as
a piece of theory, it does not seem to me that your work sits on any
solid foundation. However, that does not mean it is wrong, only that I
can see no theoretical reason to think it correct.

The way one hopes to see theories arbitrated is via the outcome of
experiment and that raises my next problem with your work. To put it
simply, I do not recall seeing you suggest any means of testing your
theory.

What operationally testable observations can you suggest that might
support your theory in competition with alternative approaches? Have
you reviewed the literature to find any existing body of observation
that might support or refute your ideas? From looking at your work, I
do not recall seeing any attention to such issues.

For these reasons I am not convinced by your work. In preference, I
stand by my own approach to understanding humour which, as you know,
is the "IFF Theory of Humor" and which can be found on my own web
site. Unlike your work, it does seems well-founded theoretically and
does survive a number of tests.

Sincerely

John Hewitt

On Apr 16, 6:25 pm, bafah...@xtra.co.nz wrote:



Humor research has been handicapped by the lines of approached
applide
by thinkers from antiquity to the present day. The main one being,
using the word "humor" on a neurological level when it is merely a
construct that has a vague, general meaning only applicable in
cultural intercourse.

I have posted an essay on a Google Page: Laughing and crying as
displacement activities: the implications for humor theory.

Go to the site below, scroll down until you see the elephant and
blind
men, and click on "A new theory of humor".

http://www.humorlinks.com/cgi-bin/sites/page.cgi?g=Academic%2Findex.h...

I have attempted to show that viewing laughter as a displacement
activity (defined in the essay) and explaining why it is confusing to
use the term humor in certain contexts, answers the major problems
encountered by humor researchers.

I think you will enjoy the read.

Basil- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

John,
You can find a revised version of my essay at.

f=1&Classification=Mature&cm=1
Click on Academic(4Cool centre left.

You will see, in the appendices that I conclude that until laughter is
shown to have the same neurological basis as other displacement
activities my ideas will remain hypothetical. However, the great
behaviorist Lorenz also believed that Laughter is a displacement
activity as does Russell 1996; Kozintsev and Butovskaya 1999.

Cheers
Basil
verulam
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 8:07 am
Guest
Basil,
Sure, I note what you say but, as I understand it, the idea with
scientific theories is to use the theory to derive testable
predictions over and beyond the premises of the theory.
I was hoping that perhaps it might be possible to use your theory to
derive predictions over and beyond the premises of the theory itself
that would be independently testable.
Humour is a big subject and can be discussed at various different
levels - for example, in terms of :-
1. The evolutionary-biological history that led to it.
2. Its biological function for the individual organism and the
neurobiological and cognitive correlates of those functions.
3. Its function for the social group and the socio-biological
correlates of those functions.
4. The structure of individual humorous acts and their relationship to
the sociobiology of humour.

There should be plenty of scope here. Can you not use your theory to
obtain testable predictions in such areas?

Sincerely

John Hewitt

Quote:
John,
You can find a revised version of my essay at.

f=1&Classification=Mature&cm=1
Click on Academic(4Cool centre left.

You will see, in the appendices that I conclude that until laughter is
shown to have the same neurological basis as other displacement
activities my ideas will remain hypothetical. However, the great
behaviorist Lorenz also believed that Laughter is a displacement
activity as does Russell 1996; Kozintsev and Butovskaya 1999.

Cheers
Basil
 
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