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| RHRRC |
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Any recommendations for a Gerber viewer and/or handler greatly
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The more the merrier (don't ask why) but I really need a good long
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Thanks |
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| JeffM |
| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:11 am |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:30 am |
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On Apr 8, 2:48 pm, RHRRC <h.le...@connect-2.co.uk> wrote:
Quote: Any recommendations for a Gerber viewer and/or handler greatly
appreciated.
The more the merrier (don't ask why) but I really need a good long
list.
Thanks
What's a "handler"? I've honestly never heard this term in
relationship to a program before... Is Notepad a text handler? |
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| JeffM |
| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:53 pm |
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news:YdKZh.3343$HX7.2986@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net
Quote: For the free stuff I use the popular one GC-Preview.
Stuart recently noted a new release of Gerbv.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.design/browse_frm/thread/bc57797e0d8fd1fd/481acc0f8dbd8e56?q=*-*-*-XYRS-*-*-files+gEDA+Gerber.file+only+*-*-new-*-*-*-*-libraries+export+open.source+*-*-*-*-PNG+layer.control+*-*-also-*-Excellon-*-files+Complete-implementation-of-*-Gerber-*+an.end-to-end.tool.chain.*.*.*+viewer+qq-qq+uu+Linux
news:13okbccerg4b999@corp.supernews.com
and Ken Smith mentioned a minor gotcha.
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.design/browse_frm/thread/bc57797e0d8fd1fd/e58462dfd07d58f6?q=*-*-*-XYRS-*-*-files+gEDA+Gerber.file+only+*-*-new-*-*-*-*-libraries+export+open.source+*-*-*-*-PNG+layer.control+*-*-also-*-Excellon-*-files+Complete-implementation-of-*-Gerber-*+an.end-to-end.tool.chain.*.*.*+viewer+qq-qq+uu+Linux
news:426564bf-051f-4994-99dd-a6d7bbaf474a@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com
A bit later, Stuart announced a Windows port (installer).
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| Martin Riddle |
| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:37 pm |
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"RHRRC" <h.lewis@connect-2.co.uk> wrote in message news:25cc00c5-2f8e-472d-8c6f-9904ea6e506d@p39g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
Quote: Any recommendations for a Gerber viewer and/or handler greatly
appreciated.
The more the merrier (don't ask why) but I really need a good long
list.
Thanks
CAM 350 , Good package.
For the free stuff I use the popular one GC-Preview.
Cheers |
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| Joerg |
| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:36 pm |
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a7yvm109gf5d1@netzero.com wrote:
Quote: On Apr 8, 2:48 pm, RHRRC <h.le...@connect-2.co.uk> wrote:
Any recommendations for a Gerber viewer and/or handler greatly
appreciated.
The more the merrier (don't ask why) but I really need a good long
list.
Thanks
What's a "handler"? I've honestly never heard this term in
relationship to a program before... Is Notepad a text handler?
No, a text wrestler ;-)
Anyway, personally I like GC-PreView but it has the same shortcoming as
most (all?) Gerber viewers. It does not offer see-through planes so on
RF boards you have to constantly hide/unhide layers. Does anyone know a
Gerber viewer that offers transparent or at least grid-style color settings?
A long time ago I had bought a DOS-based viewer from France but I can't
find the disk anymore. It had transparent coloring but the menu was all
en francaise. Didn't bother me much but it drove visitors crazy.
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Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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| DJ Delorie |
| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:59 pm |
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Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> writes:
Quote: Anyway, personally I like GC-PreView but it has the same shortcoming
as most (all?) Gerber viewers. It does not offer see-through planes
so on RF boards you have to constantly hide/unhide layers. Does
anyone know a Gerber viewer that offers transparent or at least
grid-style color settings?
The latest (v2.0+) gerbv does translucent layers, if you set the
rendering to normal or high quality. It also has an XOR mode.
http://gerbv.sourceforge.net/ |
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| Boris Mohar |
| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 8:05 am |
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On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 11:48:30 -0700 (PDT), RHRRC <h.lewis@connect-2.co.uk>
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Quote: Any recommendations for a Gerber viewer and/or handler greatly
appreciated.
The more the merrier (don't ask why) but I really need a good long
list.
Thanks
http://www.pentalogix.com/Download/download.html
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Boris Mohar |
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| Joerg |
| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:00 pm |
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Anton Erasmus wrote:
Quote: On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 01:36:08 GMT, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
a7yvm109gf5d1@netzero.com wrote:
On Apr 8, 2:48 pm, RHRRC <h.le...@connect-2.co.uk> wrote:
Any recommendations for a Gerber viewer and/or handler greatly
appreciated.
The more the merrier (don't ask why) but I really need a good long
list.
Thanks
What's a "handler"? I've honestly never heard this term in
relationship to a program before... Is Notepad a text handler?
No, a text wrestler ;-)
Anyway, personally I like GC-PreView but it has the same shortcoming as
most (all?) Gerber viewers. It does not offer see-through planes so on
RF boards you have to constantly hide/unhide layers. Does anyone know a
Gerber viewer that offers transparent or at least grid-style color settings?
[Snipped]
Viewmate can do transparent as well as grif-style colour layers.
From Pentalogix? Thanks, Anton. Will download now, they just sent me
the password.
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Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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| Joel Koltner |
| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:02 pm |
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"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
news:Y7aLj.538$7Z2.175@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...
Quote: From Pentalogix? Thanks, Anton. Will download now, they just sent me the
password.
www.bugmenot.com is good for finding such passwords if you don't want to go
through the whole registration procedure. |
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| Anton Erasmus |
| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:44 pm |
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On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 01:36:08 GMT, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
Quote: a7yvm109gf5d1@netzero.com wrote:
On Apr 8, 2:48 pm, RHRRC <h.le...@connect-2.co.uk> wrote:
Any recommendations for a Gerber viewer and/or handler greatly
appreciated.
The more the merrier (don't ask why) but I really need a good long
list.
Thanks
What's a "handler"? I've honestly never heard this term in
relationship to a program before... Is Notepad a text handler?
No, a text wrestler ;-)
Anyway, personally I like GC-PreView but it has the same shortcoming as
most (all?) Gerber viewers. It does not offer see-through planes so on
RF boards you have to constantly hide/unhide layers. Does anyone know a
Gerber viewer that offers transparent or at least grid-style color settings?
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Viewmate can do transparent as well as grif-style colour layers.
Regards
Anton Erasmus |
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| Joerg |
| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:13 pm |
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Joel Koltner wrote:
Quote: "Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
news:Y7aLj.538$7Z2.175@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...
From Pentalogix? Thanks, Anton. Will download now, they just sent me the
password.
www.bugmenot.com is good for finding such passwords if you don't want to go
through the whole registration procedure.
I don't mind giving my address to a reputable company. After all, it is
nice of them to provide the community with a free viewer. I have tried
Viewmate before and it didn't work well for my stuff but will try the
new version.
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Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/
"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM. |
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| Joerg |
| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:46 pm |
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Anton Erasmus wrote:
Quote: On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 01:36:08 GMT, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
a7yvm109gf5d1@netzero.com wrote:
On Apr 8, 2:48 pm, RHRRC <h.le...@connect-2.co.uk> wrote:
Any recommendations for a Gerber viewer and/or handler greatly
appreciated.
The more the merrier (don't ask why) but I really need a good long
list.
Thanks
What's a "handler"? I've honestly never heard this term in
relationship to a program before... Is Notepad a text handler?
No, a text wrestler ;-)
Anyway, personally I like GC-PreView but it has the same shortcoming as
most (all?) Gerber viewers. It does not offer see-through planes so on
RF boards you have to constantly hide/unhide layers. Does anyone know a
Gerber viewer that offers transparent or at least grid-style color settings?
[Snipped]
Viewmate can do transparent as well as grif-style colour layers.
Hey thanks! Viewmate does do some colors in transparent. Not all but
some. This will be much easier on the wrist. Zoom is not as good as in
GC-Preview so there will be times when one viewer is better and times
where the other is better.
--
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/
"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM. |
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| Boris Mohar |
| Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:54 pm |
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On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:46:24 GMT, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
Quote: Anton Erasmus wrote:
On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 01:36:08 GMT, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
a7yvm109gf5d1@netzero.com wrote:
On Apr 8, 2:48 pm, RHRRC <h.le...@connect-2.co.uk> wrote:
Any recommendations for a Gerber viewer and/or handler greatly
appreciated.
The more the merrier (don't ask why) but I really need a good long
list.
Thanks
What's a "handler"? I've honestly never heard this term in
relationship to a program before... Is Notepad a text handler?
No, a text wrestler ;-)
Anyway, personally I like GC-PreView but it has the same shortcoming as
most (all?) Gerber viewers. It does not offer see-through planes so on
RF boards you have to constantly hide/unhide layers. Does anyone know a
Gerber viewer that offers transparent or at least grid-style color settings?
[Snipped]
Viewmate can do transparent as well as grif-style colour layers.
Hey thanks! Viewmate does do some colors in transparent. Not all but
some. This will be much easier on the wrist. Zoom is not as good as in
GC-Preview so there will be times when one viewer is better and times
where the other is better.
If your mouse has a scroll wheel, the CTRL - scroll for zoom
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| rickman |
| Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:58 am |
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On Apr 9, 7:46 pm, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net>
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Quote: Anton Erasmus wrote:
On Wed, 09 Apr 2008 01:36:08 GMT, Joerg
notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
a7yvm109gf...@netzero.com wrote:
On Apr 8, 2:48 pm, RHRRC <h.le...@connect-2.co.uk> wrote:
Any recommendations for a Gerber viewer and/or handler greatly
appreciated.
The more the merrier (don't ask why) but I really need a good long
list.
Thanks
What's a "handler"? I've honestly never heard this term in
relationship to a program before... Is Notepad a text handler?
No, a text wrestler ;-)
Anyway, personally I like GC-PreView but it has the same shortcoming as
most (all?) Gerber viewers. It does not offer see-through planes so on
RF boards you have to constantly hide/unhide layers. Does anyone know a
Gerber viewer that offers transparent or at least grid-style color settings?
[Snipped]
Viewmate can do transparent as well as grif-style colour layers.
Hey thanks! Viewmate does do some colors in transparent. Not all but
some. This will be much easier on the wrist. Zoom is not as good as in
GC-Preview so there will be times when one viewer is better and times
where the other is better.
--
Regards, Joerg
If you don't like Viewmate, try GCpreview. It does transparent colors
and has the ever so nice zoom by scroll wheel. I use FreePCB for
layout and the author took the scroll wheel one step further. Once
you have moved the mouse, the first click of the scroll wheel does not
zoom, but just pans to put the cursor at center. So you can more
easily move as well as zoom using just the mouse and wheel.
The issue you see with just "some colors" working in transparency is
because of the way they implement it. They are just "adding" the
values of the three primary colors (or maybe taking a max). So if the
result is not different from one of the two colors being "mixed" it
will look like it is opaque. All you need to do is to change the
colors. It is hard to make a lot of planes different enough to be
useful, but you can easily get some 6 or 8 planes to contrast two at a
time.
I think this is due to the ancient roots of layout software. In DOS
days the graphics hardware was much more limited. Today the way to do
this is to implement true "transparency" with a more complex mixing
algorithm making one layer transparent with the other showing
through. If you check out a photo/art program you can see the
difference this makes. I don't know how practical this is. Two
layers is one thing, but displaying a dozen layers transparently may
be a real chore. |
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