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| Ignoramus10392 |
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:11 pm |
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Way cool. There is a video too. The video is priceless.
http://blog.mlive.com/flintjournal/newsnow/2008/04/post_moto_kid_death_story_here.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH5eYCdheLw
FLINT, Michigan -- Will Foster never has too much trouble getting a
parking spot for his second vehicle.
After all, who's going to argue with a guy driving a half-scale Panzer
tank complete with a working air cannon?
Tanks a lot
For the basics on Kettering University student Will Foster's tank,
check out the artillery rounds, er, bullet points below.
Size: half-scale Panzer replica powered by three-cylinder diesel
engine
Cost: current parts total around $2,000 but Foster estimates more
than $10,000 was spent on trial-and-error engineering.
Top speed: 20 mph
Additional features: camouflaged wooden shell, working tread system,
air cannon on a 360-degree turret that shoots varied munitions
including golf balls and empty Red Bull cans.
"I took it home, driving it around in this white picket fence
neighborhood and one of the neighbors called the cops on us," said
Foster, a Kettering University student who began building the tank
from scratch nearly two years ago.
"(Police) came and they just told us to head back home, but they were
also laughing at it because they had never seen anything like that
before."
That's an understatement.
Roughly the size of a small car, Foster's tank can reach speeds of
around 20 mph with its three-cylinder diesel engine. Just like the
real thing, the tank runs on treads and has a 360-degree cannon
powered by compressed air from a scuba tank.
Its camouflaged plywood exterior has become a curious fixture at
Foster's Theta Xi fraternity house, where it is often parked next to a
shed with a sign that reads "Panzer parking. Violators will be
totaled."
A builder and tinkerer since he made his first tree house at age 9,
the Annapolis, Md., native came up with his first designs for the tank
when he was 14.
But, he didn't have the money or manpower to pull it off.
Seeing golf carts dressed up as tanks in paintball competitions
rekindled the idea and it gained momentum when he arrived at Kettering
in the summer of 2006.
"I said to the guys at the house, 'Can I build a tank in the parking
lot here?' because lots of guys have their projects that they're
working on," he said.
The whole house has had a hand in building the tank.
"It's been a lot of trial and error. As it is now I've probably got
$2,000 worth of parts on it, but about $10,000 total has gone into it
because I'd buy a $200 part that didn't work, then go to a $300 part
that didn't work before finding a $50 part that did," he said.
An early version based off the drive system of a lawn mower failed
quickly, sending Foster and his cohorts to studying the hydraulic
systems of Bobcat-style construction equipment.
It was a step in the right direction, but still there were
problems. Two more drive systems failed, and it took four major
alterations to the tread to keep the tracks from slipping off the
drive wheel.
Through it all Foster stayed intensely focused on solving problems as
they crept up, impressing his fellow engineers to be.
"He's a genius when to comes to visualization of a problem, seeing
what needs to be done and figuring out every step along the way that
needs to happen," said Steve Sankey, 27, a fraternity brother who
pitched in on the tank's construction.
"We'd all work on it and there were lots of those lightbulb moments
when we were trying to figure out a problem with it. The tank has kind
of become a part of Theta Xi."
Aside from being a fun problem and curiosity -- "Kids run after us
like we're the ice cream man when we take it out," Foster remarks --
the tank has given Foster valuable job experience.
After listing it on his resume Foster was recruited by armored vehicle
maker Force Protection Inc. for a summer co-op job that he starts this
month.
"They asked me a lot about it and that's the kind of engineering job
I've always wanted, so it's great," he said. "I've always been a
builder but not someone with all the book smarts, so I love stuff like
this rather than being one of the people at school with great grades
who can't turn a wrench."
Foster's predilection for tinkering -- his 1986 Chevy Silverado was
rescued from a junkyard and now has a 10-inch lift and 37-inch wheels
-- is endearing to girlfriend Heidi Clark, a recent Kettering graduate
who has also helped problem solve and build the tank.
"When there's a problem with it that's all he'll think about and he
stays really, really focused on it until he can figure it out," she
said. "It's funny because he gets all these stares from people because
they don't know what this thing is or who would have something like
that."
He's getting used to the stares -- even the frequent interest of
police, especially when towing the tank on a trailer between Michigan
and Maryland.
Usually, Foster said police just ask for his license and registration
before sending him back on his way.
"I tried to not mention that it had a working cannon on top." |
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| Martin H. Eastburn |
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That looks like a cool toy.
Wonder if it pulls a disk set or useful work.
Snow blade, mud flow or the like.
Martin
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Ignoramus10392 wrote:
Quote: Way cool. There is a video too. The video is priceless.
http://blog.mlive.com/flintjournal/newsnow/2008/04/post_moto_kid_death_story_here.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH5eYCdheLw
FLINT, Michigan -- Will Foster never has too much trouble getting a
parking spot for his second vehicle.
After all, who's going to argue with a guy driving a half-scale Panzer
tank complete with a working air cannon?
Tanks a lot
For the basics on Kettering University student Will Foster's tank,
check out the artillery rounds, er, bullet points below.
Size: half-scale Panzer replica powered by three-cylinder diesel
engine
Cost: current parts total around $2,000 but Foster estimates more
than $10,000 was spent on trial-and-error engineering.
Top speed: 20 mph
Additional features: camouflaged wooden shell, working tread system,
air cannon on a 360-degree turret that shoots varied munitions
including golf balls and empty Red Bull cans.
"I took it home, driving it around in this white picket fence
neighborhood and one of the neighbors called the cops on us," said
Foster, a Kettering University student who began building the tank
from scratch nearly two years ago.
"(Police) came and they just told us to head back home, but they were
also laughing at it because they had never seen anything like that
before."
That's an understatement.
Roughly the size of a small car, Foster's tank can reach speeds of
around 20 mph with its three-cylinder diesel engine. Just like the
real thing, the tank runs on treads and has a 360-degree cannon
powered by compressed air from a scuba tank.
Its camouflaged plywood exterior has become a curious fixture at
Foster's Theta Xi fraternity house, where it is often parked next to a
shed with a sign that reads "Panzer parking. Violators will be
totaled."
A builder and tinkerer since he made his first tree house at age 9,
the Annapolis, Md., native came up with his first designs for the tank
when he was 14.
But, he didn't have the money or manpower to pull it off.
Seeing golf carts dressed up as tanks in paintball competitions
rekindled the idea and it gained momentum when he arrived at Kettering
in the summer of 2006.
"I said to the guys at the house, 'Can I build a tank in the parking
lot here?' because lots of guys have their projects that they're
working on," he said.
The whole house has had a hand in building the tank.
"It's been a lot of trial and error. As it is now I've probably got
$2,000 worth of parts on it, but about $10,000 total has gone into it
because I'd buy a $200 part that didn't work, then go to a $300 part
that didn't work before finding a $50 part that did," he said.
An early version based off the drive system of a lawn mower failed
quickly, sending Foster and his cohorts to studying the hydraulic
systems of Bobcat-style construction equipment.
It was a step in the right direction, but still there were
problems. Two more drive systems failed, and it took four major
alterations to the tread to keep the tracks from slipping off the
drive wheel.
Through it all Foster stayed intensely focused on solving problems as
they crept up, impressing his fellow engineers to be.
"He's a genius when to comes to visualization of a problem, seeing
what needs to be done and figuring out every step along the way that
needs to happen," said Steve Sankey, 27, a fraternity brother who
pitched in on the tank's construction.
"We'd all work on it and there were lots of those lightbulb moments
when we were trying to figure out a problem with it. The tank has kind
of become a part of Theta Xi."
Aside from being a fun problem and curiosity -- "Kids run after us
like we're the ice cream man when we take it out," Foster remarks --
the tank has given Foster valuable job experience.
After listing it on his resume Foster was recruited by armored vehicle
maker Force Protection Inc. for a summer co-op job that he starts this
month.
"They asked me a lot about it and that's the kind of engineering job
I've always wanted, so it's great," he said. "I've always been a
builder but not someone with all the book smarts, so I love stuff like
this rather than being one of the people at school with great grades
who can't turn a wrench."
Foster's predilection for tinkering -- his 1986 Chevy Silverado was
rescued from a junkyard and now has a 10-inch lift and 37-inch wheels
-- is endearing to girlfriend Heidi Clark, a recent Kettering graduate
who has also helped problem solve and build the tank.
"When there's a problem with it that's all he'll think about and he
stays really, really focused on it until he can figure it out," she
said. "It's funny because he gets all these stares from people because
they don't know what this thing is or who would have something like
that."
He's getting used to the stares -- even the frequent interest of
police, especially when towing the tank on a trailer between Michigan
and Maryland.
Usually, Foster said police just ask for his license and registration
before sending him back on his way.
"I tried to not mention that it had a working cannon on top."
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| Jim Wilkins |
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:55 am |
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The first real Panzers weren't much better. Guderian complained about
street urchins drilling holes in them and the infantry sticking
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| Mawdeeb |
Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:53 am |
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Naw, he just needs to sit in it at the local speed trap with a sign that
says: "Speed limit enforced with extreme prejudice"
It would make some of the locals around here think twice.
Nice project. Kid should put in a resume with General Dynamics.
Jim Vrzal
Holiday,Fl.
Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
Quote: That looks like a cool toy.
Wonder if it pulls a disk set or useful work.
Snow blade, mud flow or the like.
Martin
Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
TSRA, Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.
http://lufkinced.com/
Ignoramus10392 wrote:
Way cool. There is a video too. The video is priceless.
http://blog.mlive.com/flintjournal/newsnow/2008/04/post_moto_kid_death_story_here.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH5eYCdheLw
FLINT, Michigan -- Will Foster never has too much trouble getting a
parking spot for his second vehicle.
After all, who's going to argue with a guy driving a half-scale Panzer
tank complete with a working air cannon?
Tanks a lot
For the basics on Kettering University student Will Foster's tank,
check out the artillery rounds, er, bullet points below.
Size: half-scale Panzer replica powered by three-cylinder diesel
engine
Cost: current parts total around $2,000 but Foster estimates more
than $10,000 was spent on trial-and-error engineering.
Top speed: 20 mph
Additional features: camouflaged wooden shell, working tread system,
air cannon on a 360-degree turret that shoots varied munitions
including golf balls and empty Red Bull cans.
"I took it home, driving it around in this white picket fence
neighborhood and one of the neighbors called the cops on us," said
Foster, a Kettering University student who began building the tank
from scratch nearly two years ago.
"(Police) came and they just told us to head back home, but they were
also laughing at it because they had never seen anything like that
before."
That's an understatement.
Roughly the size of a small car, Foster's tank can reach speeds of
around 20 mph with its three-cylinder diesel engine. Just like the
real thing, the tank runs on treads and has a 360-degree cannon
powered by compressed air from a scuba tank.
Its camouflaged plywood exterior has become a curious fixture at
Foster's Theta Xi fraternity house, where it is often parked next to a
shed with a sign that reads "Panzer parking. Violators will be
totaled."
A builder and tinkerer since he made his first tree house at age 9,
the Annapolis, Md., native came up with his first designs for the tank
when he was 14.
But, he didn't have the money or manpower to pull it off.
Seeing golf carts dressed up as tanks in paintball competitions
rekindled the idea and it gained momentum when he arrived at Kettering
in the summer of 2006.
"I said to the guys at the house, 'Can I build a tank in the parking
lot here?' because lots of guys have their projects that they're
working on," he said.
The whole house has had a hand in building the tank.
"It's been a lot of trial and error. As it is now I've probably got
$2,000 worth of parts on it, but about $10,000 total has gone into it
because I'd buy a $200 part that didn't work, then go to a $300 part
that didn't work before finding a $50 part that did," he said.
An early version based off the drive system of a lawn mower failed
quickly, sending Foster and his cohorts to studying the hydraulic
systems of Bobcat-style construction equipment.
It was a step in the right direction, but still there were
problems. Two more drive systems failed, and it took four major
alterations to the tread to keep the tracks from slipping off the
drive wheel.
Through it all Foster stayed intensely focused on solving problems as
they crept up, impressing his fellow engineers to be.
"He's a genius when to comes to visualization of a problem, seeing
what needs to be done and figuring out every step along the way that
needs to happen," said Steve Sankey, 27, a fraternity brother who
pitched in on the tank's construction.
"We'd all work on it and there were lots of those lightbulb moments
when we were trying to figure out a problem with it. The tank has kind
of become a part of Theta Xi."
Aside from being a fun problem and curiosity -- "Kids run after us
like we're the ice cream man when we take it out," Foster remarks --
the tank has given Foster valuable job experience.
After listing it on his resume Foster was recruited by armored vehicle
maker Force Protection Inc. for a summer co-op job that he starts this
month.
"They asked me a lot about it and that's the kind of engineering job
I've always wanted, so it's great," he said. "I've always been a
builder but not someone with all the book smarts, so I love stuff like
this rather than being one of the people at school with great grades
who can't turn a wrench."
Foster's predilection for tinkering -- his 1986 Chevy Silverado was
rescued from a junkyard and now has a 10-inch lift and 37-inch wheels
-- is endearing to girlfriend Heidi Clark, a recent Kettering graduate
who has also helped problem solve and build the tank.
"When there's a problem with it that's all he'll think about and he
stays really, really focused on it until he can figure it out," she
said. "It's funny because he gets all these stares from people because
they don't know what this thing is or who would have something like
that."
He's getting used to the stares -- even the frequent interest of
police, especially when towing the tank on a trailer between Michigan
and Maryland.
Usually, Foster said police just ask for his license and registration
before sending him back on his way.
"I tried to not mention that it had a working cannon on top."
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On Apr 8, 8:54 am, Ignoramus15795 <ignoramus15...@NOSPAM.
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I think that Panzer simply means tank in German (Panzerkampfwagen).
Tiger 1 was officially called Panzerkampfwagen VI Ausführung.
Panzer is simply Armor, including chain mail. To confuse matters the
Panzer V was a "Panther". |
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:35 am |
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On 2008-04-08, Mawdeeb <Mawdeeb@verizon.net> wrote:
Quote: Naw, he just needs to sit in it at the local speed trap with a sign that
says: "Speed limit enforced with extreme prejudice"
It would make some of the locals around here think twice.
Nice project. Kid should put in a resume with General Dynamics.
The article says that he got a summer job with some military
contractor.
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Quote:
Jim Vrzal
Holiday,Fl.
Martin H. Eastburn wrote:
That looks like a cool toy.
Wonder if it pulls a disk set or useful work.
Snow blade, mud flow or the like.
Martin
Martin H. Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
TSRA, Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal.
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder
IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member.
http://lufkinced.com/
Ignoramus10392 wrote:
Way cool. There is a video too. The video is priceless.
http://blog.mlive.com/flintjournal/newsnow/2008/04/post_moto_kid_death_story_here.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH5eYCdheLw
FLINT, Michigan -- Will Foster never has too much trouble getting a
parking spot for his second vehicle.
After all, who's going to argue with a guy driving a half-scale Panzer
tank complete with a working air cannon?
Tanks a lot
For the basics on Kettering University student Will Foster's tank,
check out the artillery rounds, er, bullet points below.
Size: half-scale Panzer replica powered by three-cylinder diesel
engine
Cost: current parts total around $2,000 but Foster estimates more
than $10,000 was spent on trial-and-error engineering.
Top speed: 20 mph
Additional features: camouflaged wooden shell, working tread system,
air cannon on a 360-degree turret that shoots varied munitions
including golf balls and empty Red Bull cans.
"I took it home, driving it around in this white picket fence
neighborhood and one of the neighbors called the cops on us," said
Foster, a Kettering University student who began building the tank
from scratch nearly two years ago.
"(Police) came and they just told us to head back home, but they were
also laughing at it because they had never seen anything like that
before."
That's an understatement.
Roughly the size of a small car, Foster's tank can reach speeds of
around 20 mph with its three-cylinder diesel engine. Just like the
real thing, the tank runs on treads and has a 360-degree cannon
powered by compressed air from a scuba tank.
Its camouflaged plywood exterior has become a curious fixture at
Foster's Theta Xi fraternity house, where it is often parked next to a
shed with a sign that reads "Panzer parking. Violators will be
totaled."
A builder and tinkerer since he made his first tree house at age 9,
the Annapolis, Md., native came up with his first designs for the tank
when he was 14.
But, he didn't have the money or manpower to pull it off.
Seeing golf carts dressed up as tanks in paintball competitions
rekindled the idea and it gained momentum when he arrived at Kettering
in the summer of 2006.
"I said to the guys at the house, 'Can I build a tank in the parking
lot here?' because lots of guys have their projects that they're
working on," he said.
The whole house has had a hand in building the tank.
"It's been a lot of trial and error. As it is now I've probably got
$2,000 worth of parts on it, but about $10,000 total has gone into it
because I'd buy a $200 part that didn't work, then go to a $300 part
that didn't work before finding a $50 part that did," he said.
An early version based off the drive system of a lawn mower failed
quickly, sending Foster and his cohorts to studying the hydraulic
systems of Bobcat-style construction equipment.
It was a step in the right direction, but still there were
problems. Two more drive systems failed, and it took four major
alterations to the tread to keep the tracks from slipping off the
drive wheel.
Through it all Foster stayed intensely focused on solving problems as
they crept up, impressing his fellow engineers to be.
"He's a genius when to comes to visualization of a problem, seeing
what needs to be done and figuring out every step along the way that
needs to happen," said Steve Sankey, 27, a fraternity brother who
pitched in on the tank's construction.
"We'd all work on it and there were lots of those lightbulb moments
when we were trying to figure out a problem with it. The tank has kind
of become a part of Theta Xi."
Aside from being a fun problem and curiosity -- "Kids run after us
like we're the ice cream man when we take it out," Foster remarks --
the tank has given Foster valuable job experience.
After listing it on his resume Foster was recruited by armored vehicle
maker Force Protection Inc. for a summer co-op job that he starts this
month.
"They asked me a lot about it and that's the kind of engineering job
I've always wanted, so it's great," he said. "I've always been a
builder but not someone with all the book smarts, so I love stuff like
this rather than being one of the people at school with great grades
who can't turn a wrench."
Foster's predilection for tinkering -- his 1986 Chevy Silverado was
rescued from a junkyard and now has a 10-inch lift and 37-inch wheels
who has also helped problem solve and build the tank.
"When there's a problem with it that's all he'll think about and he
stays really, really focused on it until he can figure it out," she
said. "It's funny because he gets all these stares from people because
they don't know what this thing is or who would have something like
that."
He's getting used to the stares -- even the frequent interest of
police, especially when towing the tank on a trailer between Michigan
and Maryland.
Usually, Foster said police just ask for his license and registration
before sending him back on his way.
"I tried to not mention that it had a working cannon on top."
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On 2008-04-08, Randy <rbraun333@enter.net> wrote:
I think that Panzer simply means tank in German (Panzerkampfwagen).
Tiger 1 was officially called Panzerkampfwagen VI Ausführung.
The guy's tank looks more like Panzer IV with some changes (related to
the student's use of plywood).
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On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:11:16 -0500, Ignoramus10392
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In the video he states that it's a Tiger 1. not a Panzer.
Thank You,
Randy
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On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Jim Wilkins
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Quote: On Apr 8, 8:54 am, Ignoramus15795 <ignoramus15...@NOSPAM.
15795.invalid> wrote:
I think that Panzer simply means tank in German (Panzerkampfwagen).
Tiger 1 was officially called Panzerkampfwagen VI Ausführung.
Panzer is simply Armor, including chain mail. To confuse matters the
Panzer V was a "Panther".
Correct. Naming nomenclature in the Werhmact for armor has
traditionally been the names of big cats.
Ie Panther, Tiger, Leopard etc etc
Gunner
"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so
would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining
power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The
problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group,
they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of
wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some
want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second
Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting
rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and
complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture
that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political
correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the
competing factions of Islamic
fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core,
and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr |
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:32 pm |
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Gunner Asch wrote:
Quote: On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Jim Wilkins
KB1DAL@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 8:54 am, Ignoramus15795 <ignoramus15...@NOSPAM.
15795.invalid> wrote:
I think that Panzer simply means tank in German (Panzerkampfwagen).
Tiger 1 was officially called Panzerkampfwagen VI Ausführung.
Panzer is simply Armor, including chain mail. To confuse matters the
Panzer V was a "Panther".
Correct. Naming nomenclature in the Werhmact for armor has
traditionally been the names of big cats.
Ie Panther, Tiger, Leopard etc etc
Gunner
with a few notable exceptions including the Nashorn ( Rhino ) tank
destroyer which was a panzer based with a fixed 88mm heavy gun i.e.
no rotating turret and the similar Hetzer ( baiter ) tank destroyer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hetzer_-_G13-D.jpg
both certainly armour.If you get chance there is a rather good series
on the history channel about them
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On Tue, 08 Apr 2008 22:32:26 GMT, Derek <whome@spamtrap.com> wrote:
Quote: Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 8 Apr 2008 09:14:19 -0700 (PDT), Jim Wilkins
KB1DAL@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 8:54 am, Ignoramus15795 <ignoramus15...@NOSPAM.
15795.invalid> wrote:
I think that Panzer simply means tank in German (Panzerkampfwagen).
Tiger 1 was officially called Panzerkampfwagen VI Ausführung.
Panzer is simply Armor, including chain mail. To confuse matters the
Panzer V was a "Panther".
Correct. Naming nomenclature in the Werhmact for armor has
traditionally been the names of big cats.
Ie Panther, Tiger, Leopard etc etc
Gunner
with a few notable exceptions including the Nashorn ( Rhino ) tank
destroyer which was a panzer based with a fixed 88mm heavy gun i.e.
no rotating turret and the similar Hetzer ( baiter ) tank destroyer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hetzer_-_G13-D.jpg
both certainly armour.If you get chance there is a rather good series
on the history channel about them
Derek
Hey, thanks!
Gunner
"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so
would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their
methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining
power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The
problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group,
they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of
wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some
want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second
Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting
rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and
complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture
that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political
correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the
competing factions of Islamic
fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join
forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core,
and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr |
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On Apr 8, 12:14 pm, Jim Wilkins <KB1...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Apr 8, 8:54 am, Ignoramus15795 <ignoramus15...@NOSPAM.
15795.invalid> wrote:
I think that Panzer simply means tank in German (Panzerkampfwagen).
Tiger 1 was officially called Panzerkampfwagen VI Ausführung.
Panzer is simply Armor, including chain mail. To confuse matters the
Panzer V was a "Panther".
"Tank and Panzer" were not names to be direct references to waht they
are
I heard the english origin of the term TANK is in britain to confuse
spies trying to find info since no one would think of the weapon but
rather the pressure vessels. So someon wanting to find out info about
tanks would be sent to the place where they were making pressure tanks
or hot water heaters rather than munitions.
the french call tanks by what they do "Char d'assault" literally
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Brent <b_philion@hotmail.com> wrote in news:8a6bed45-2c08-406c-96c1-
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Quote: I heard the english origin of the term TANK is in britain to confuse
spies trying to find info since no one would think of the weapon but
rather the pressure vessels.
Almost:
The "tank" name came from the cover story used during initial development:
the vehicles were told off as being motorized carriers of fluids designed
to traverse muddy ground in order to supply the troops in the trenches and
the tubular projections were the nozzles. <grin> |
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Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 9:22 pm |
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On Wed, 9 Apr 2008 15:18:14 -0700 (PDT), Brent <b_philion@hotmail.com>
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Quote: On Apr 8, 12:14 pm, Jim Wilkins <KB1...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Apr 8, 8:54 am, Ignoramus15795 <ignoramus15...@NOSPAM.
15795.invalid> wrote:
I think that Panzer simply means tank in German (Panzerkampfwagen).
Tiger 1 was officially called Panzerkampfwagen VI Ausführung.
Panzer is simply Armor, including chain mail. To confuse matters the
Panzer V was a "Panther".
"Tank and Panzer" were not names to be direct references to waht they
are
I heard the english origin of the term TANK is in britain to confuse
spies trying to find info since no one would think of the weapon but
rather the pressure vessels. So someon wanting to find out info about
tanks would be sent to the place where they were making pressure tanks
or hot water heaters rather than munitions.
the french call tanks by what they do "Char d'assault" literally
attack vehicle
Youse guys need a bit of practice, me thinks.
Armor translates to "Rüstung".
Panzerkampfwagon translates to "Tank combat car" or "armored car" or
even "armored fighting car. Panzer, in the usual sense, translates to
"tank" and Char d'assault translates to "Tank of assault".
There are at least three possible explanations of the origin of
the name "tank". One is it first arose in British
factories making the hulls of the first battle tanks: workmen and
possible spies were to be given the impression they were
constructing mobile water containers or tanks for the
British Army, hence keeping the
production of a fighting vehicle secret. [1] Another is the term
was first used in a secret report on the new motorized weapon
presented to Winston Churchill,
then First Lord of the
Admiralty, by British Army Lt.-Col. Ernest Swinton. From this report,
three
possible terms emerged: "cistern", "motor-war
car", and "tank". Apparently "tank" was
chosen due to its linguistic simplicity. [7] Perhaps the most
compelling story comes from Churchill's authoritative
biography. [8] To disguise the device, drawings were marked
"water carriers for Russia." When it was pointed out this
might be shortened to "WCs for
Russia," the drawings were changed to "water tanks for
Russia." Eventually the weapon was just called a tank.
Bruce-in-Bangkok
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On Apr 7, 4:11 pm, Ignoramus10392 <ignoramus10...@NOSPAM.
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Quote: Way cool. There is a video too. The video is priceless.
http://blog.mlive.com/flintjournal/newsnow/2008/04/post_moto_kid_deat...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH5eYCdheLw
FLINT, Michigan -- Will Foster never has too much trouble getting a
parking spot for his second vehicle.
After all, who's going to argue with a guy driving a half-scale Panzer
tank complete with a working air cannon?
Tanks a lot
For the basics on Kettering University student Will Foster's tank,
check out the artillery rounds, er, bullet points below.
Size: half-scale Panzer replica powered by three-cylinder diesel
engine
Cost: current parts total around $2,000 but Foster estimates more
than $10,000 was spent on trial-and-error engineering.
Top speed: 20 mph
Additional features: camouflaged wooden shell, working tread system,
air cannon on a 360-degree turret that shoots varied munitions
including golf balls and empty Red Bull cans.
"I took it home, driving it around in this white picket fence
neighborhood and one of the neighbors called the cops on us," said
Foster, a Kettering University student who began building the tank
from scratch nearly two years ago.
"(Police) came and they just told us to head back home, but they were
also laughing at it because they had never seen anything like that
before."
That's an understatement.
Roughly the size of a small car, Foster's tank can reach speeds of
around 20 mph with its three-cylinder diesel engine. Just like the
real thing, the tank runs on treads and has a 360-degree cannon
powered by compressed air from a scuba tank.
Its camouflaged plywood exterior has become a curious fixture at
Foster's Theta Xi fraternity house, where it is often parked next to a
shed with a sign that reads "Panzer parking. Violators will be
totaled."
A builder and tinkerer since he made his first tree house at age 9,
the Annapolis, Md., native came up with his first designs for the tank
when he was 14.
But, he didn't have the money or manpower to pull it off.
Seeing golf carts dressed up as tanks in paintball competitions
rekindled the idea and it gained momentum when he arrived at Kettering
in the summer of 2006.
"I said to the guys at the house, 'Can I build a tank in the parking
lot here?' because lots of guys have their projects that they're
working on," he said.
The whole house has had a hand in building the tank.
"It's been a lot of trial and error. As it is now I've probably got
$2,000 worth of parts on it, but about $10,000 total has gone into it
because I'd buy a $200 part that didn't work, then go to a $300 part
that didn't work before finding a $50 part that did," he said.
An early version based off the drive system of a lawn mower failed
quickly, sending Foster and his cohorts to studying the hydraulic
systems of Bobcat-style construction equipment.
It was a step in the right direction, but still there were
problems. Two more drive systems failed, and it took four major
alterations to the tread to keep the tracks from slipping off the
drive wheel.
Through it all Foster stayed intensely focused on solving problems as
they crept up, impressing his fellow engineers to be.
"He's a genius when to comes to visualization of a problem, seeing
what needs to be done and figuring out every step along the way that
needs to happen," said Steve Sankey, 27, a fraternity brother who
pitched in on the tank's construction.
"We'd all work on it and there were lots of those lightbulb moments
when we were trying to figure out a problem with it. The tank has kind
of become a part of Theta Xi."
Aside from being a fun problem and curiosity -- "Kids run after us
like we're the ice cream man when we take it out," Foster remarks --
the tank has given Foster valuable job experience.
After listing it on his resume Foster was recruited by armored vehicle
maker Force Protection Inc. for a summer co-op job that he starts this
month.
"They asked me a lot about it and that's the kind of engineering job
I've always wanted, so it's great," he said. "I've always been a
builder but not someone with all the book smarts, so I love stuff like
this rather than being one of the people at school with great grades
who can't turn a wrench."
Foster's predilection for tinkering -- his 1986 Chevy Silverado was
rescued from a junkyard and now has a 10-inch lift and 37-inch wheels
-- is endearing to girlfriend Heidi Clark, a recent Kettering graduate
who has also helped problem solve and build the tank.
"When there's a problem with it that's all he'll think about and he
stays really, really focused on it until he can figure it out," she
said. "It's funny because he gets all these stares from people because
they don't know what this thing is or who would have something like
that."
He's getting used to the stares -- even the frequent interest of
police, especially when towing the tank on a trailer between Michigan
and Maryland.
Usually, Foster said police just ask for his license and registration
before sending him back on his way.
"I tried to not mention that it had a working cannon on top."
time was this would have been what MIT students were doing. now
they're all blogging. |
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