Do benign tumors exhibit increased glucose uptake as well, would it be
suggested for child to limit sugar consumption, change clinic ?

In message <e02e8536-edb3-40c1-b656-c370a5e32...@p73g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>, 8281...@gmail.com wrote:

Do benign tumors exhibit increased glucose uptake as well, would it be
suggested for child to limit sugar consumption, change clinic ?

If you really want to stop the tumor growth, load up on
insulin and stop all caloric intake. That should reduce
blood glucose to the point of completely stopping the tumors.

It will also kill the child, but nothing is perfect.

Bottom line: blood glucose is absolutely essential for life.
Tumors are better at getting it from the bloodstream than
health tissue. By the time you reduce blood glucose to the
point of materially affecting tumors, you've lowered it to
the point where healthy organ systems (think: central nervous)
are in *really* bad shape.

--
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| The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" |
+---------- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> ----------+

On Mar 9, 2:19 am, "D. C. Sessions" <d...@lumbercartel.com> wrote:
In message
e02e8536-edb3-40c1-b656-c370a5e32...@p73g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
8281...@gmail.com wrote:

Do benign tumors exhibit increased glucose uptake as well, would it
be suggested for child to limit sugar consumption, change clinic ?

If you really want to stop the tumor growth, load up on
insulin and stop all caloric intake. That should reduce
blood glucose to the point of completely stopping the tumors.

It will also kill the child, but nothing is perfect.

Bottom line: blood glucose is absolutely essential for life.
Tumors are better at getting it from the bloodstream than
health tissue. By the time you reduce blood glucose to the
point of materially affecting tumors, you've lowered it to
the point where healthy organ systems (think: central nervous)
are in *really* bad shape.

--
| The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" |
| The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" |
+---------- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> ----------+

a very uneffective treatment as you can see!

I have a friend, whose child has pilocytic astrocytoma, receiving
chemotherapy (Carboplatin/Vincristine), also receiving some infusions
of 20% glucose.

Do benign tumors exhibit increased glucose uptake as well, would it be
suggested for child to limit sugar consumption, change clinic ?

"D. C. Sessions" <d...@lumbercartel.com> fell face-first on the keyboard.
This was the result:news:nc5la5-bi.ln1@news.lumbercartel.com:

In message <Xns9A5E8290FDDA8dragnetinternalys...@216.196.97.131>, Marc
Bissonnette wrote:

Hmph. My daughter is a type I diabetic, so I've got a little
experience with this :)

Well, that disqualifies you right there.

Appreciation for parents of Type I kids; my brother's oldest is
now at the point where he can (and does, nicely) manage his own
sugar balance. It's a slog to get there, but two 40ish cow-orkers
are living testimony that you can get there still quite healthy.

Tip from an EMT: along with the alert bracelet, make a point of
having her always have a glucose tube in her purse with instructions.

She's still a little young to carry a purse, but either my wife or I always
have something with us, in case of a low (Juice, tube of icing, etc) - I've
*got* to get her one of those Medic-Alert bracelets, though: Thanks for the
reminder.

While I am far, far from anything of an expert in cancer (Hell, I'm a
complete newb, having been diagnosed less than two months ago), I
would say the only reat dietary thing you can do for cancer, once
you've got it, is to eat healthy - Follow Canada's Food Guide
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/food-guide-aliment/index_e.html

and get some decent excercise - In effect, keep the rest of your body
healthy enough to do what it can to both fight off the cancer, but
also to heal from the side effects of treatment.

There you go with sensible advice. You *REALLY* don't belong.

Usenet is funny like that :)

--
Marc Bissonnette
Looking for a new ISP?http://www.canadianisp.com
Largest ISP comparison site across Canada.

Hmph. My daughter is a type I diabetic, so I've got a little experience
with this

While I am far, far from anything of an expert in cancer (Hell, I'm a
complete newb, having been diagnosed less than two months ago), I would
say the only reat dietary thing you can do for cancer, once you've got
it, is to eat healthy - Follow Canada's Food Guide
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/food-guide-aliment/index_e.html

and get some decent excercise - In effect, keep the rest of your body
healthy enough to do what it can to both fight off the cancer, but also
to heal from the side effects of treatment.

In message <Xns9A5E8290FDDA8dragnetinternalysisc@216.196.97.131>, Marc
Bissonnette wrote:

Hmph. My daughter is a type I diabetic, so I've got a little
experience with this :)

Well, that disqualifies you right there.

Appreciation for parents of Type I kids; my brother's oldest is
now at the point where he can (and does, nicely) manage his own
sugar balance. It's a slog to get there, but two 40ish cow-orkers
are living testimony that you can get there still quite healthy.

Tip from an EMT: along with the alert bracelet, make a point of
having her always have a glucose tube in her purse with instructions.

While I am far, far from anything of an expert in cancer (Hell, I'm a
complete newb, having been diagnosed less than two months ago), I
would say the only reat dietary thing you can do for cancer, once
you've got it, is to eat healthy - Follow Canada's Food Guide
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/food-guide-aliment/index_e.html

and get some decent excercise - In effect, keep the rest of your body
healthy enough to do what it can to both fight off the cancer, but
also to heal from the side effects of treatment.

There you go with sensible advice. You *REALLY* don't belong.

"D. C. Sessions" <dcs@lumbercartel.com> fell face-first on the keyboard.
This was the result: news:nc5la5-bi.ln1@news.lumbercartel.com:

[...]>> While I am far, far from anything of an expert in cancer (Hell, I'm a

complete newb, having been diagnosed less than two months ago), I
would say the only reat dietary thing you can do for cancer, once
you've got it, is to eat healthy - Follow Canada's Food Guide
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/food-guide-aliment/index_e.html

and get some decent excercise - In effect, keep the rest of your body
healthy enough to do what it can to both fight off the cancer, but
also to heal from the side effects of treatment.

There you go with sensible advice. You *REALLY* don't belong.

Usenet is funny like that

We're really getting off topic here (at least for ASC), but I have a
question.  Is juice/candy/icing/etc. really the best way to get the
blood sugar levels up?  My GP told me that potatoes raise blood sugar
faster than table sugar, because their starch is loosely bonded
glucose (or something to that effect).  What about those glucose gel
packets sold for exercise, like at bike shops?  It seems like a couple
of those in a purse would last a long time, and provide a very quick
sugar boost when needed.  But maybe I'm missing something important,
as I'm not diabetic and have no training in this.

On Mar 12, 10:31 am, Marc Bissonnette <dragnet\_@_/internalysis.com
wrote:
"D. C. Sessions" <d...@lumbercartel.com> fell face-first on the
keyboard. This was the
result:news:nc5la5-bi.ln1@news.lumbercartel.com:

In message <Xns9A5E8290FDDA8dragnetinternalys...@216.196.97.131>,
Marc Bissonnette wrote:

Hmph. My daughter is a type I diabetic, so I've got a little
experience with this :)

Well, that disqualifies you right there.

Appreciation for parents of Type I kids; my brother's oldest is
now at the point where he can (and does, nicely) manage his own
sugar balance. It's a slog to get there, but two 40ish cow-orkers
are living testimony that you can get there still quite healthy.

Tip from an EMT: along with the alert bracelet, make a point of
having her always have a glucose tube in her purse with
instructions.

She's still a little young to carry a purse, but either my wife or I
always have something with us, in case of a low (Juice, tube of
icing, etc) - I've *got* to get her one of those Medic-Alert
bracelets, though: Thanks for the reminder.

While I am far, far from anything of an expert in cancer (Hell,
I'm a complete newb, having been diagnosed less than two months
ago), I would say the only reat dietary thing you can do for
cancer, once you've got it, is to eat healthy - Follow Canada's
Food Guide
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/food-guide-aliment/index_e.html

and get some decent excercise - In effect, keep the rest of your
body healthy enough to do what it can to both fight off the
cancer, but also to heal from the side effects of treatment.

There you go with sensible advice. You *REALLY* don't belong.

Usenet is funny like that :)

--
Marc Bissonnette
Looking for a new ISP?http://www.canadianisp.com
Largest ISP comparison site across Canada.

We're really getting off topic here (at least for ASC), but I have a
question. Is juice/candy/icing/etc. really the best way to get the
blood sugar levels up? My GP told me that potatoes raise blood sugar
faster than table sugar, because their starch is loosely bonded
glucose (or something to that effect). What about those glucose gel
packets sold for exercise, like at bike shops? It seems like a couple
of those in a purse would last a long time, and provide a very quick
sugar boost when needed. But maybe I'm missing something important,
as I'm not diabetic and have no training in this.

csm7...@hotmail.com fell face-first on the keyboard. This was the
result:news:2988aee3-979e-42c3-b3c0-0c2a9eb2574d@h11g2000prf.googlegroups.com:



On Mar 12, 10:31 am, Marc Bissonnette <dragnet\_@_/internalysis.com
wrote:
"D. C. Sessions" <d...@lumbercartel.com> fell face-first on the
keyboard. This was the
result:news:nc5la5-bi.ln1@news.lumbercartel.com:

In message <Xns9A5E8290FDDA8dragnetinternalys...@216.196.97.131>,
Marc Bissonnette wrote:

Hmph. My daughter is a type I diabetic, so I've got a little
experience with this :)

Well, that disqualifies you right there.

Appreciation for parents of Type I kids; my brother's oldest is
now at the point where he can (and does, nicely) manage his own
sugar balance. It's a slog to get there, but two 40ish cow-orkers
are living testimony that you can get there still quite healthy.

Tip from an EMT: along with the alert bracelet, make a point of
having her always have a glucose tube in her purse with
instructions.

She's still a little young to carry a purse, but either my wife or I
always have something with us, in case of a low (Juice, tube of
icing, etc) - I've *got* to get her one of those Medic-Alert
bracelets, though: Thanks for the reminder.

While I am far, far from anything of an expert in cancer (Hell,
I'm a complete newb, having been diagnosed less than two months
ago), I would say the only reat dietary thing you can do for
cancer, once you've got it, is to eat healthy - Follow Canada's
Food Guide
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/food-guide-aliment/index_e.html

and get some decent excercise - In effect, keep the rest of your
body healthy enough to do what it can to both fight off the
cancer, but also to heal from the side effects of treatment.

There you go with sensible advice. You *REALLY* don't belong.

Usenet is funny like that :)

--
Marc Bissonnette
Looking for a new ISP?http://www.canadianisp.com
Largest ISP comparison site across Canada.

We're really getting off topic here (at least for ASC), but I have a
question. Is juice/candy/icing/etc. really the best way to get the
blood sugar levels up? My GP told me that potatoes raise blood sugar
faster than table sugar, because their starch is loosely bonded
glucose (or something to that effect). What about those glucose gel
packets sold for exercise, like at bike shops? It seems like a couple
of those in a purse would last a long time, and provide a very quick
sugar boost when needed. But maybe I'm missing something important,
as I'm not diabetic and have no training in this.

Well, my daughter's gone into a hypo-glycemic coma twice, now: Rubbing
sugar into the sides of her mouth brought her blood sugar up both times,
in the space of five minutes, after which orange juice, followed by solid
food got her stable.

Actually, to be more accurate: The first time it happened, her blood
sugar was 0.8 and I got it up to 1.9 by the time the paramedics arrived
(It happened at school) - They administered glucagon into her thigh
immediately, which, of course, brought her right back up (followed by the
requisite four hours of nausea and vomiting)

Potatoes may well raise it faster if ingested (I honestly don't know),
but when they're unconcious, you need to get it into the blood stream as
quickly as possible - If not direct injection (i.e. glucagon), then
rubbing sugar/icing into the sides of the inside of their mouth works
best (Keeping in mind they're unconcious, so trying to get them to
swallow anything raises all sorts of choking hazards).

Of course, the *best* method is good blood sugar control/diet so that it
doesn't happen in the first place :)

--
Marc Bissonnette
Looking for a new ISP?http://www.canadianisp.com
Largest ISP comparison site across Canada.

The gel packs specially designed for this purpose,
with tongue depressors, sound like an even better way to go.  I'm glad
I don't have to deal with this problem, but if I did, I'd keep a few
of those handy.

In message <3740854c-1f2a-4499-ae3a-e97dcac03...@d21g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, csm7...@hotmail.com wrote:

The gel packs specially designed for this purpose,
with tongue depressors, sound like an even better way to go. I'm glad
I don't have to deal with this problem, but if I did, I'd keep a few
of those handy.

I'm a ski patroller, and we're required to carry them at
all times. In ten years I've never needed to use it, but
people I patrol with _have_ -- and not on the hill. In
all seriousness, it can save someone's life at totally
unexpected times.

In training we heard of one case where a woman who likes
sweetened coffee always carried some sugar packets for it,
and ended up saving a life on a (bus? something like that.)
I put sugar packets right up with a pack of gloves as
"don't leave home without it" supplies.

--
| The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" |
| The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" |
+---------- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> ----------+

Homenet <Edward.Stanyer@googlemail.com> fell face-first on the keyboard.
This was the result:
news:d69965e4-e07e-4e2c-b34d-9712b7765a2e@k13g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

On Mar 9, 2:19 am, "D. C. Sessions" <d...@lumbercartel.com> wrote:
In message
e02e8536-edb3-40c1-b656-c370a5e32...@p73g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>,
8281...@gmail.com wrote:

Do benign tumors exhibit increased glucose uptake as well, would it
be suggested for child to limit sugar consumption, change clinic ?
If you really want to stop the tumor growth, load up on
insulin and stop all caloric intake. That should reduce
blood glucose to the point of completely stopping the tumors.

It will also kill the child, but nothing is perfect.

Bottom line: blood glucose is absolutely essential for life.
Tumors are better at getting it from the bloodstream than
health tissue. By the time you reduce blood glucose to the
point of materially affecting tumors, you've lowered it to
the point where healthy organ systems (think: central nervous)
are in *really* bad shape.

--
| The most important exclamation in science isn't "Eureka!" |
| The most important exclamation is "What the BLEEP?" |
+---------- D. C. Sessions <d...@lumbercartel.com> ----------+
a very uneffective treatment as you can see!


Hmph. My daughter is a type I diabetic, so I've got a little experience
with this :)

"Limiting sugars" wouldn't be of any help, since it isn't just the sugars
that is turned into blood glucose (which is, indeed, the basic fuel for
everything in the body), but all carbohydrates.

While I am far, far from anything of an expert in cancer (Hell, I'm a
complete newb, having been diagnosed less than two months ago), I would
say the only reat dietary thing you can do for cancer, once you've got
it, is to eat healthy - Follow Canada's Food Guide
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/fn-an/food-guide-aliment/index_e.html

and get some decent excercise - In effect, keep the rest of your body
healthy enough to do what it can to both fight off the cancer, but also
to heal from the side effects of treatment.