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Chris
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:11 pm
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I have an air core with two coils wound on it, one is 11 turns the other 250
turns. The 11 turned coil is connected to a 1000 pF capacitor and the 250
turns connected to a 10 meg scope.

Former 3 cm square 4 cm long

There is a signal of 8 mV appearing at the terminals at 588KHz.

It is there with all electrical stuff in the house turned off.

Any one any idea what it is?

--
Chris
http://www.myphilosophy.eu
Roger Ivie
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:33 pm
Guest
On 2008-02-02, Chris <anonymous@noserver.com> wrote:
Quote:
I have an air core with two coils wound on it
....
There is a signal of 8 mV appearing at the terminals at 588KHz.
It is there with all electrical stuff in the house turned off.
Any one any idea what it is?

AM radio?
--
roger ivie
rivie@ridgenet.net
Wimpie
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:20 am
Guest
On 2 feb, 23:11, "Chris" <anonym...@noserver.com> wrote:
Quote:
I have an air core with two coils wound on it, one is 11 turns the other 250
turns. The 11 turned coil is connected to a 1000 pF capacitor and the 250
turns connected to a 10 meg scope.

Former 3 cm square 4 cm long

There is a signal of 8 mV appearing at the terminals at 588KHz.

It is there with all electrical stuff in the house turned off.

Any one any idea what it is?

--
Chrishttp://www.myphilosophy.eu

Hello,

Can you recognize some modulation on it? Does it look like a sine
wave, also when you see about 30 periods on the display? It is
probably a local AM broadcast transmitter.

See what happens when you change the orientation of the coils. Check
the frequency with a AM receiver. Also keep in mind that when using a
digital storage scope, you may see an alias (so actual frequency is
different from what you see on the DSO).

Best regards,

Wim
PA3DJS
www.tetech.nl
Chris
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:49 am
Guest
Yes, but my hf receiver can find no signal there. The nearest is 1.09 MHz

It is probably domestic equipment next door (Mid Terraced house), I moved to
another room the signal vanished came back when I moved back.

Everything in the room is off.



--
Chris
http://www.myphilosophy.eu
"Wimpie" <wimtel@tetech.nl> wrote in message
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Quote:
On 2 feb, 23:11, "Chris" <anonym...@noserver.com> wrote:
I have an air core with two coils wound on it, one is 11 turns the other
250
turns. The 11 turned coil is connected to a 1000 pF capacitor and the 250
turns connected to a 10 meg scope.

Former 3 cm square 4 cm long

There is a signal of 8 mV appearing at the terminals at 588KHz.

It is there with all electrical stuff in the house turned off.

Any one any idea what it is?

--
Chrishttp://www.myphilosophy.eu

Hello,

Can you recognize some modulation on it? Does it look like a sine
wave, also when you see about 30 periods on the display? It is
probably a local AM broadcast transmitter.

See what happens when you change the orientation of the coils. Check
the frequency with a AM receiver. Also keep in mind that when using a
digital storage scope, you may see an alias (so actual frequency is
different from what you see on the DSO).

Best regards,

Wim
PA3DJS
www.tetech.nl
Wimpie
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:21 pm
Guest
On 4 feb, 15:49, "Chris" <anonym...@noserver.com> wrote:
Quote:
Yes, but my hf receiver can find no signal there. The nearest is 1.09 MHz

It is probably domestic equipment next door (Mid Terraced house), I moved to
another room the signal vanished came back when I moved back.

Everything in the room is off.

--
Chrishttp://www.myphilosophy.eu"Wimpie" <wim...@tetech.nl> wrote in message

news:52c242da-4c88-4581-833a-8e1118919f24@v67g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

On 2 feb, 23:11, "Chris" <anonym...@noserver.com> wrote:
I have an air core with two coils wound on it, one is 11 turns the other
250
turns. The 11 turned coil is connected to a 1000 pF capacitor and the 250
turns connected to a 10 meg scope.

Former 3 cm square 4 cm long

There is a signal of 8 mV appearing at the terminals at 588KHz.

It is there with all electrical stuff in the house turned off.

Any one any idea what it is?

--
Chrishttp://www.myphilosophy.eu

Hello,

Can you recognize some modulation on it? Does it look like a sine
wave, also when you see about 30 periods on the display? It is
probably a local AM broadcast transmitter.

See what happens when you change the orientation of the coils. Check
the frequency with a AM receiver. Also keep in mind that when using a
digital storage scope, you may see an alias (so actual frequency is
different from what you see on the DSO).

Best regards,

Wim
PA3DJS
www.tetech.nl

Hello

When you can see it on the oscilloscope, you should hear it on a
receiver, unless your scope is lying (aliasing with digital
oscilloscope) or you don't have an antenna connected. .

With your scope, it should be possible to find more properties of the
signal. Note that when the Q factor of your coil is very high, it is
not easy to find out whether the signal is narrow band or wide band.

If possible go to your neighbours. Maybe the signal is stronger and
you can trace the source. Some months ago I had a similar problem.
The source was some circuit inside the scope itself (GWinstek GDS2200
series).

Good luck,

Wim
PA3DJS
www.tetech.nl (Dutch).
Cary Jamison
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 2:32 pm
Guest
Chris wrote:
Quote:
Yes, but my hf receiver can find no signal there. The nearest is 1.09
MHz

It seems unlikely you can't find any AM signals between 588kHz and 1.09 MHz!

But then, I'm not familiar with how many AM stations you have on your side
of the pond.


Cary
Chris
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:27 pm
Guest
I just want to get rid of it, I'll move my things to another room.

--
Chris
http://www.myphilosophy.eu
"Wimpie" <wimtel@tetech.nl> wrote in message
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Quote:
On 4 feb, 15:49, "Chris" <anonym...@noserver.com> wrote:
Yes, but my hf receiver can find no signal there. The nearest is 1.09 MHz

It is probably domestic equipment next door (Mid Terraced house), I moved
to
another room the signal vanished came back when I moved back.

Everything in the room is off.

--
Chrishttp://www.myphilosophy.eu"Wimpie" <wim...@tetech.nl> wrote in
message

news:52c242da-4c88-4581-833a-8e1118919f24@v67g2000hse.googlegroups.com...

On 2 feb, 23:11, "Chris" <anonym...@noserver.com> wrote:
I have an air core with two coils wound on it, one is 11 turns the
other
250
turns. The 11 turned coil is connected to a 1000 pF capacitor and the
250
turns connected to a 10 meg scope.

Former 3 cm square 4 cm long

There is a signal of 8 mV appearing at the terminals at 588KHz.

It is there with all electrical stuff in the house turned off.

Any one any idea what it is?

--
Chrishttp://www.myphilosophy.eu

Hello,

Can you recognize some modulation on it? Does it look like a sine
wave, also when you see about 30 periods on the display? It is
probably a local AM broadcast transmitter.

See what happens when you change the orientation of the coils. Check
the frequency with a AM receiver. Also keep in mind that when using a
digital storage scope, you may see an alias (so actual frequency is
different from what you see on the DSO).

Best regards,

Wim
PA3DJS
www.tetech.nl

Hello

When you can see it on the oscilloscope, you should hear it on a
receiver, unless your scope is lying (aliasing with digital
oscilloscope) or you don't have an antenna connected. .

With your scope, it should be possible to find more properties of the
signal. Note that when the Q factor of your coil is very high, it is
not easy to find out whether the signal is narrow band or wide band.

If possible go to your neighbours. Maybe the signal is stronger and
you can trace the source. Some months ago I had a similar problem.
The source was some circuit inside the scope itself (GWinstek GDS2200
series).

Good luck,

Wim
PA3DJS
www.tetech.nl (Dutch).
Richard Tobin
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:36 pm
Guest
In article <rU5pj.67784$Kt4.49354@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
Chris <anonymous@noserver.com> wrote:
Quote:
I have an air core with two coils wound on it, one is 11 turns the other 250
turns. The 11 turned coil is connected to a 1000 pF capacitor and the 250
turns connected to a 10 meg scope.

Former 3 cm square 4 cm long

There is a signal of 8 mV appearing at the terminals at 588KHz.

It is there with all electrical stuff in the house turned off.

Any one any idea what it is?

For those who don't read sci.physics.fusion, the author apparently
believes that in the past he created working fusion reactors, and
is being persecuted as a result.

-- Richard
--
:wq
Chris
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 4:44 pm
Guest
It is not my past work it is my present work that is causing persecution.
I've just been let out of secure accomodation and given a "final discharge".
However I have to have an injection next wednesday to keep me under.
Now is that persecution?
--
Chris
http://www.myphilosophy.eu
"Richard Tobin" <richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message
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Quote:
In article <rU5pj.67784$Kt4.49354@fe3.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
Chris <anonymous@noserver.com> wrote:
I have an air core with two coils wound on it, one is 11 turns the other
250
turns. The 11 turned coil is connected to a 1000 pF capacitor and the 250
turns connected to a 10 meg scope.

Former 3 cm square 4 cm long

There is a signal of 8 mV appearing at the terminals at 588KHz.

It is there with all electrical stuff in the house turned off.

Any one any idea what it is?

For those who don't read sci.physics.fusion, the author apparently
believes that in the past he created working fusion reactors, and
is being persecuted as a result.

-- Richard
--
:wq
Richard Herring
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:50 pm
Guest
In message <fo7lop$11u$1@aioe.org>, Cary Jamison <caryj57@netzero.net>
writes
Quote:
Chris wrote:
Yes, but my hf receiver can find no signal there. The nearest is 1.09
MHz

It seems unlikely you can't find any AM signals between 588kHz and 1.09 MHz!

But then, I'm not familiar with how many AM stations you have on your
side of the pond.

Hundreds.


But they're all at multiples of 9 kHz, so none on 588 ;-)

--
Richard Herring
 
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