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| People's Commissar |
 Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 4:40 pm |
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USA TODAY had an article on this, finally, saying that doctors and some
health agencies are calling for ALL food manufacturers to list "TRANSFATS"
that lists the other fats since they are more dangerous for heart disease
and CHOLESTEROL
Transfats are an unsaturated fat that food processors add hydrogen atoms to,
to make it into a more saturated kind of fat - hence the term "transfat."
ANY food which has PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED VEGETABLE OIL - of ANY kind, is
loaded with TRANSFATS. Unfortunately, this means almost ALL processed
foods. Look at any package for ingredients: "PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED
vegetable oil of any kind" NOT hydrolized, not hydrogenated -it has to say
PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED and that's it, transfats.
USA TODAY doesn't seem to be aware that doctors and health agencies were
calling for this back in 1990! August 25, 1990, Science News, page 121
"Transfats: worse than saturated."
Who is dragging their heals on this? The food manufacturers, the 4th or 5th
biggest industry in the country. Why? Because they have it in almost
everything they make. They need this to make the food or sauce semi-solid
at room temperature, not liquid and not chaulky or stiff. The material of
MARGERINE - IS nothing but partially hydrogenated vegetable oil of some
kind, with butter flavor. Even Ritz and Saltines crackers have partially
hydrogenated oil in it. Even now, the call for "LISTING THIS" has died.
It's WORSE than saturated fat. Why?
OK. Saturated fat raises LDL Cholesterol. However, depending on your
genetics, if such a person takes out all saturated fats in foods, his
cholesterol goes UP becaue he starts to produce VLDLs, which are worse.
Now TRANSFATS are so bad and a TRIPLE threat for heart disease and
cholesterol because they do this'
1. Transfats RAISE LDL cholesterol
2. They also RAISE triglycerides and
3. They LOWER THE HDL cholesterol which is the good cholesterol!
What is more - transfats have abolulutely NO FOOD VALUE. A recent
Scientific American article said there is "absolutely no place for transfats
in the huma diet." BUTTER s high in saturated fat, so is cheese, but they
ALSO have some nutritional value.
Who was recommending that people switch off butter and use margerine for
decades?
There is only ONE WAY to stop this, ONE EAY to force the food industry to
use SOMETHING ELSE - maybe give us powder that needs to be made wet to make
sauce, or whatever. The is ONE WAY to do this: DO NOT BUY ANYTHING WITH
PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED VEGETABLE OIL IN IT!
Dr. Willett calls partial hydrogenation of oils the "biggest food-processing
disaster in U.S. history." If the hydrogenation process were discovered
today, it could not be adopted by the oil food industry. Dr. Walter Willett,
who is the Chairman of the Department of Nutrition at the Harvard School of
Public Health and Professor of Medicine at the Harvard Medical School, as
well as being generally recognized as one of the world's top authorities on
nutrition.
When we compare the biological effects of the trans fatty acids versus the
saturated fatty acids, we see that
(1) saturated fat has been described as a bad fat, although when too much
is eaten the body converts it to monounsaturated fat, a good fat. This
does not happen with trans fat.
(2) saturated fatty acids raise HDL cholesterol, the so-called good
cholesterol, whereas the trans fatty acids lower HDL cholesterol;
(3) saturated fatty acids lower the blood levels of the atherogenic
lipoprotein [a], whereas trans fatty acids raise the blood levels of
lipoprotein [a];
(4) saturated fatty acids conserve the good omega-3 fatty acids, whereas
trans fatty acids cause the tissues to lose these omega-3 fatty acids;
(5) saturated fatty acids do not inhibit insulin binding, whereas trans
fatty acids do inhibit insulin binding (see our page on diabetes);
(6) saturated fatty acids do not increase C-reactive protein, but trans
fatty acids do increase C-reactive protein causing arterial inflammation;
(7) saturated fatty acids are the normal fatty acids made by the body, and
they do not interfere with enzyme functions such as the delta-6-desaturase,
whereas trans fatty acids are not made by the body, and they interfere with
many enzyme functions such as delta-6-desaturase; and
( some saturated fatty acids are used by the body to fight viruses,
bacteria, and protozoa, and they support the immune system, whereas trans
fatty acids interfere with the function of the immune system.
http://www.drbob4health.com/TransFatsFDA.htm
http://bantransfats.com/
SPREAD THE WORD on this. Please! |
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| People's Commissar |
| Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 4:42 pm |
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USA TODAY had an article on this, finally, saying that doctors and some
health agencies are calling for ALL food manufacturers to list "TRANSFATS"
that lists the other fats since they are more dangerous for heart disease
and CHOLESTEROL
Transfats are an unsaturated fat that food processors add hydrogen atoms to,
to make it into a more saturated kind of fat - hence the term "transfat."
ANY food which has PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED VEGETABLE OIL - of ANY kind, is
loaded with TRANSFATS. Unfortunately, this means almost ALL processed
foods. Look at any package for ingredients: "PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED
vegetable oil of any kind" NOT hydrolized, not hydrogenated -it has to say
PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED and that's it, transfats.
USA TODAY doesn't seem to be aware that doctors and health agencies were
calling for this back in 1990! August 25, 1990, Science News, page 121
"Transfats: worse than saturated."
Who is dragging their heals on this? The food manufacturers, the 4th or 5th
biggest industry in the country. Why? Because they have it in almost
everything they make. They need this to make the food or sauce semi-solid
at room temperature, not liquid and not chaulky or stiff. The material of
MARGERINE - IS nothing but partially hydrogenated vegetable oil of some
kind, with butter flavor. Even Ritz and Saltines crackers have partially
hydrogenated oil in it. Even now, the call for "LISTING THIS" has died.
It's WORSE than saturated fat. Why?
OK. Saturated fat raises LDL Cholesterol. However, depending on your
genetics, if such a person takes out all saturated fats in foods, his
cholesterol goes UP becaue he starts to produce VLDLs, which are worse.
Now TRANSFATS are so bad and a TRIPLE threat for heart disease and
cholesterol because they do this'
1. Transfats RAISE LDL cholesterol
2. They also RAISE triglycerides and
3. They LOWER THE HDL cholesterol which is the good cholesterol!
What is more - transfats have abolulutely NO FOOD VALUE. A recent
Scientific American article said there is "absolutely no place for transfats
in the huma diet." BUTTER s high in saturated fat, so is cheese, but they
ALSO have some nutritional value.
Who was recommending that people switch off butter and use margerine for
decades?
There is only ONE WAY to stop this, ONE EAY to force the food industry to
use SOMETHING ELSE - maybe give us powder that needs to be made wet to make
sauce, or whatever. The is ONE WAY to do this: DO NOT BUY ANYTHING WITH
PARTIALLY HYDROGENATED VEGETABLE OIL IN IT!
Dr. Willett calls partial hydrogenation of oils the "biggest food-processing
disaster in U.S. history." If the hydrogenation process were discovered
today, it could not be adopted by the oil food industry. Dr. Walter Willett,
who is the Chairman of the Department of Nutrition at the Harvard School of
Public Health and Professor of Medicine at the Harvard Medical School, as
well as being generally recognized as one of the world's top authorities on
nutrition.
When we compare the biological effects of the trans fatty acids versus the
saturated fatty acids, we see that
(1) saturated fat has been described as a bad fat, although when too much
is eaten the body converts it to monounsaturated fat, a good fat. This
does not happen with trans fat.
(2) saturated fatty acids raise HDL cholesterol, the so-called good
cholesterol, whereas the trans fatty acids lower HDL cholesterol;
(3) saturated fatty acids lower the blood levels of the atherogenic
lipoprotein [a], whereas trans fatty acids raise the blood levels of
lipoprotein [a];
(4) saturated fatty acids conserve the good omega-3 fatty acids, whereas
trans fatty acids cause the tissues to lose these omega-3 fatty acids;
(5) saturated fatty acids do not inhibit insulin binding, whereas trans
fatty acids do inhibit insulin binding (see our page on diabetes);
(6) saturated fatty acids do not increase C-reactive protein, but trans
fatty acids do increase C-reactive protein causing arterial inflammation;
(7) saturated fatty acids are the normal fatty acids made by the body, and
they do not interfere with enzyme functions such as the delta-6-desaturase,
whereas trans fatty acids are not made by the body, and they interfere with
many enzyme functions such as delta-6-desaturase; and
( some saturated fatty acids are used by the body to fight viruses,
bacteria, and protozoa, and they support the immune system, whereas trans
fatty acids interfere with the function of the immune system.
http://www.drbob4health.com/TransFatsFDA.htm
http://bantransfats.com/
SPREAD THE WORD on this. Please! |
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| Mary |
| Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2003 11:24 am |
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On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 21:42:56 GMT, "People's Commissar"
<tjsrno@spam.com> wrote:
Quote: Now TRANSFATS are so bad and a TRIPLE threat for heart disease and
cholesterol because they do this'
1. Transfats RAISE LDL cholesterol
2. They also RAISE triglycerides and
3. They LOWER THE HDL cholesterol which is the good cholesterol!
The typical American diet does this -- not just the trans fat. Eating
fatty foods in general by themselves is not the problem. (See recent
studies on Atkins diet in New England Journal of Medicine).
When we overeat routinely -- a diet of fat and way too many
*carbohydrates* -- sugar, white bread, potatoes, rice, pasta, etc., we
are prematurely aging ourself.
I went on Atkins for Life plan --- but his book not folks
misconceptions of it (which includes no transfats) -- including
supplements including Essential Oils and antioxidants . And just as
the study on Atkins said,
1. Lowered my LDL and total cholesterol
2. Cut my triglycerides down to 60 (an excellent level)
3. Raises my HDL to 64 which is way excellent
4. Had the size test on LDL and I have the big stuff now, the kind
that is not likely to clog arteries
5. Blood pressure dropped as well.
I have more energy, and a lot less joint stiffness and pain as well.
I feel 10 years younger than I did a year ago.
Someone needs to change the food pyramid as 300 carbs a day gives us
heart disease and diabetes.
Beware of low fat manufactured food as it is often very high in sugars
and carbs!
Mary |
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| thewhit |
| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 1:20 am |
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Mary <devnull@mensa.org> wrote in message
news:6d0uuvgaktjeg9q2bm6a8njrcens70dgej@4ax.com...
Quote: On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 21:42:56 GMT, "People's Commissar"
tjsrno@spam.com> wrote:
Now TRANSFATS are so bad and a TRIPLE threat for heart disease and
cholesterol because they do this'
1. Transfats RAISE LDL cholesterol
2. They also RAISE triglycerides and
3. They LOWER THE HDL cholesterol which is the good cholesterol!
The typical American diet does this -- not just the trans fat. Eating
fatty foods in general by themselves is not the problem. (See recent
studies on Atkins diet in New England Journal of Medicine).
When we overeat routinely -- a diet of fat and way too many
*carbohydrates* -- sugar, white bread, potatoes, rice, pasta, etc., we
are prematurely aging ourself.
I went on Atkins for Life plan --- but his book not folks
misconceptions of it (which includes no transfats) -- including
supplements including Essential Oils and antioxidants . And just as
the study on Atkins said,
1. Lowered my LDL and total cholesterol
2. Cut my triglycerides down to 60 (an excellent level)
3. Raises my HDL to 64 which is way excellent
4. Had the size test on LDL and I have the big stuff now, the kind
that is not likely to clog arteries
5. Blood pressure dropped as well.
I have more energy, and a lot less joint stiffness and pain as well.
I feel 10 years younger than I did a year ago.
Someone needs to change the food pyramid as 300 carbs a day gives us
heart disease and diabetes.
carbs are not bad. overindulgence of overly refined carbs ARE bad.
Quote: Beware of low fat manufactured food as it is often very high in sugars
and carbs!
carbs are not bad.
in fact, as an athlete, i will tell you that carbs (and even highly refined
carbs) PROPERLY administered are key to performance. at the elite level,
they are about close to mandatory. for example, after a workout, refined
carbs are KEY. dextrose is particularly effective at restoring muscle
glycogen, for example.
again, your simple causations are bogus.
but you are right about one thing- trans fats suck!
i suggest the book 'fats that heal, fats that kill" by udo erasmus. of
Udo's blend fame.
whit
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| Nim |
| Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 8:06 pm |
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Mary <devnull@mensa.org> wrote in message
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On Sat, 27 Dec 2003 21:42:56 GMT, "People's Commissar"
tjsrno@spam.com> wrote:
Now TRANSFATS are so bad and a TRIPLE threat for heart disease and
cholesterol because they do this'
1. Transfats RAISE LDL cholesterol
2. They also RAISE triglycerides and
3. They LOWER THE HDL cholesterol which is the good cholesterol!
This is absolutely true. The problem is that buyers don't know this, and
many doctors don't seem to know it or behave as if they do. Telling people
to eat foods low in saturated fat, due to cholesterol problems, usually gets
people to buy foods labeled "no cholesterol." The problem is that these "no
cholesterol" foods are very high in transfats (such as margerine, or Coffee
Mate dairy liquid creamer). However, there *is* some nutritional value even
in these saturated fats - which also sometimes also raise HDL levels along
with LDL levels. It's the *ratio* of LDL to HDL that need to be looked
at -along with ILDL and VLDL levels.
Quote: The typical American diet does this -- not just the trans fat.
Eating
fatty foods in general by themselves is not the problem. (See recent
studies on Atkins diet in New England Journal of Medicine).
You are speaking about diets that are designed to help people lose weight.
*Both* morbidly obese and anorexic people, "fat" or "Skinny" people or
anything inbetween, can have high LDL cholesterol levels, just as any of
these can have normal levels.
Quote:
When we overeat routinely -- a diet of fat and way too many
*carbohydrates* -- sugar, white bread, potatoes, rice, pasta, etc., we
are prematurely aging ourself.
Carbs are an entirely different matter.
Quote:
I went on Atkins for Life plan --- but his book not folks
misconceptions of it (which includes no transfats) -- including
supplements including Essential Oils and antioxidants . And just as
the study on Atkins said,
1. Lowered my LDL and total cholesterol
2. Cut my triglycerides down to 60 (an excellent level)
3. Raises my HDL to 64 which is way excellent
4. Had the size test on LDL and I have the big stuff now, the kind
that is not likely to clog arteries
5. Blood pressure dropped as well.
As I said, some foods with saturated fats also raise HDL levels. I think
that the point is, that you can easily see which foods are high in sat fat,
unsaturated, mono, or poly - but if you specifically see "partially
hydrogenated oils" in the list of ingredients, you are in fact ingesting
what amounts to poison and you *think* it's safe.
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