It would be
better if we could just kill him but that is illegal in the US.

Joke!

G_uv is a curvature in perception caused by a "virtual gravitational
curvature" caused apparently by Penrose's brain gravity.

"Randy M. Dumse" <rmd@newmicros.com> wrote :

This is a problem in George's theory I have often tried to get him to
address, and he will not. If God = Guv then the curvature fields cause
by gravity have been constant, the degree the Earth's mass has remained
constant. So this would not be a matter related to evolution.

I think George is a total crackpot. He has shown no science. No proof and
descends into rambling attacks whenever questioned.

"Randy M. Dumse" <rmd@newmicros.com> wrote :

If you don't know George, this may be a rather boring discussion.

I am sorry about that, but I'm afraid I don't know him. I will try to
limit my comments to the ideas mooted rather than the man himself.


May I first refer you to Quantum Mirror's description just posted in
this thread? George is a troubled individual, who posts from
sci.physics.relativity, to many groups, promoting a theory he calls
Scientific Proof of God (SPOG).

One of many, sadly.


(I'm surprised you haven't seen his posts. Over here, we've seen him
regularly, to the point he has become a habitual and prolific troll. He
is ill mannered, foul in speech, and easily prone to tirades.)

One of many there, too - but no, I do not recall seeing any of his posts,
although I may simply have forgotten. I admit though that I don't spend
much time on science groups since I have little scientific training.


Yet he was a graduate physicist, now homeless and occasionally
institutionalized. And occasionally, one can catch a glimmer of his
former genius. Many of his ideas have a brilliant in them, as well.

Often the way. A gentleman in my local community, now convinced he is
Jesus Christ, was once a very intelligent and talented man, and in his
case
as well, that former 'self' has not disappeared entirely.


Originally, George started out with the incorporation of Einstein's
Field Equation's curvature term, G_uv (pronounced Gee mu nu and
concluded gravity caused God, so he writes Guv = God. His bases was the
gravitational field had caused the symmetries of human brain
organization.

Pardon me taking this step by step, but as I say I am not trained in
science, even abused science...

This seems to me to be a rather circular argument, or at least an argument
based on an a priori provision that if there is a brain, there must be
God.
Therefore, if gravity can be said to have caused the formation of the
brain
in its existent form, gravity must be God.

The reasoning is invalid.

"Randy M. Dumse" <rmd@newmicros.com> wrote in message
news:iw8pe.535$D83.5525@eagle.america.net...
Pardon my cross posting, I hope to be brief. I'm sure you've all seen
George Hammond's posts on your groups. George claims he is writing for
the
thousands of normal poeple out there reading him. I suspect his number
is
inflated, so if you would please, reply to this post so we can have a
count.

Feel free to express your appreciation, or otherwise, for George posting
to so many different groups. I think George needs to hear what you think
of him.

Also note, I've politely asked George not to join this conversation, so
we
can talk freely how we feel about SPOG, and to keep it a "scientific"
survey, it would help if he didn't interfere.

Also, if any of you care to tell me what you think of the following
premise, it would be appreciated. George's SPOG claims quantum gravity
causes a lack of brain development (typical 15%), he calls brain growth
deficit (BGD). He claims this missing part of our brain, is God. Now I
think, if only for hypothesis sake, we assume that the brain growth
deficit is real, I would imagine the missing part of the brain, would
not
be the god part, but instead the devil part. My reasoning follows:
George
says a full brain brings about a god like man. So it seems to be, the
developed part of the braind would be the god-like part, so the missing
part, that which keeps man from being god-like, would have to be the
devil. Notice the god-part is larger and more powerful (85%) than the
devil part (15%) so this would also seem to fit. So what do you think,
which makes more sense, SPOG (Scientific Proof of God) or SPOD
(Scientific
Proof of Devil)?

Thank you for your replies in advance.

--
Randy M. Dumse

Caution: Objects in mirror are more confused than they appear.



http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god/dcp00105.JPG

Take a close look at the condition of George's helmet in the picture that
George has proffered in the above link. I believe that the helmet is
indicative of a cause-effect relationship that scientifically proves that
George suffers from his own personal BGD. He can't stay on his bike - how
could anyone trust him to come up with anything meaningful? In short
George
is a crack-pot with a cracked helmet.

"m.kandal" <m.kandal@agmunich.edu> wrote :

G_uv is a curvature in perception caused by a "virtual gravitational
curvature" caused apparently by Penrose's brain gravity.

Well, as I said, I'm not an academic. But I DO know that most of the time
when people use the word 'virtual' means questions need asking.
"Virtually
finished" means "not finished", for example. "Virtual reality" means "not
real".

Here, if this curvature is 'virtual' that means there's something it's NOT
- which is an ACTUAL 'gravitational curvature'. So that begs the question
of what it actually IS - if anything.

"T Wake" <taswakeAt@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:IpCdnW9q-Na1QTjfRVnytw@pipex.net...

I think George is a total crackpot. He has shown no science. No proof and
descends into rambling attacks whenever questioned.


snip krap

============KOOKIE KUTTER==================
This (professed atheist) is posting a massive ad hominem
and off topic abuse campaign of HAMMOND to multiple ng's.
Please ignore his posts.
======IGNORE USENET HARASSERS==============

Aren't you deliberately misrepresenting his theory? He has stated
in a number of posts that the SPOG is not related to terrestrial
gravity, cosmological gravity, nor is it related to genetic Evolution.
G_uv is a curvature in perception caused by a "virtual gravitational
curvature" caused apparently by Penrose's brain gravity.

============KOOKIE KUTTER==================
This (professed atheist) is posting a massive ad hominem
and off topic abuse campaign of HAMMOND to multiple ng's.
Please ignore his posts.
======IGNORE USENET HARASSERS==============

[Hammond]
I NEVER post to anyone else's threads ASSHOLE.... its all I can
do to boot your kind of FILTH off my threads........ why would I
want to climb into your SNAKE PIT?

My two other purposes were to see if George would respect other
people's threads, which so far he has.