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On Jun 9, 2006, at 3:21 PM, Paul Zielinski wrote:
So Marchese and his team of investigators believe that Mills has
discovered a "real effect". Marchese also confirms that Blacklight's
experimental work on plasmas has been published in peer-reviewed
journals. He also confirms that Mills has working prototypes.
JS: That's right. But wait I am not agreeing to "over unity" claims and
neither is Marchese.
PZ: At the same time, Marchese is not taking any definite position on
the relationship between Mills' theoretical model, based on classically
non-radiating bound electron charge distributions, and the experimental
results.
JS: Of course not, he's a Princeton man! So it's Harvard (Lubos Motl) vs
Princeton with me (Cornell) in the middle.
PZ: You in the middle? You were with Motl.
JS: On the "theory" only. Marchese, Sarfatti & Motl are all in essential
agreement that, perhaps like string theory  , Mills's "theory" is "not
even wrong" (Pauli). Motl, being a string theorist "of the most bigoted
kind" (W.S. Gilbert's remark about "Methodists"in "Gondoliers"). Motl
has said nothing about Marchese's experiment. A string theorist from
Harvard dare not argue with a Princeton Ph.D. engineer on practical
matters - right? Remember Feynman's "A beautiful theory is often slain
by an ugly fact." (paraphrase)
PZ: Jack, I was in the middle. Now you've moved to the middle under my
prompting!
JS: Don't steal Ron Stahl's thunder. I think he first mentioned Marchese
not you? Also, remember Jean-Pierre Vigier's theory and the Maric-Dragic
experiments in Beograd have been on my back burner all along. My point
with Stahl is that in science it's not enough to be right, one must be
right for the right reasons. Randall Mills's "theory" is the "wrong
reasons" for sure. Lisa Randall's hyperspace little black holes may be a
test of string theory?
"Fight fiercely Harvard" Tom Lehrer
"Don't send my boy to Princeton,the dying mother said." Cornell
football song
"Onward Christian Soldiers ..." Dan Smith
http://stardrive.org/cartoon/dan.html
PZ: Obviously an interesting question for further investigation is
whether the [deleted] hypothetical sub-Rydberg hydrino term structures
supposedly predicted by Mill's theory really do exist, whichever theory
might eventually be invoked in order to explain them.
JS: That's right. Vigier's theory is plausible for this. I also raised
some new considerations that may be relevant I am not sure, i.e. whilst
the principal quantum number n remains an integer, there is some new
kind of charge anti-screening effect on scale of a fraction of an
Angstrom - unlikely but maybe.
PZ: I'm sure there are all kinds of possible explanations if such states
really do exist.
JS: Nothing so far in Marchese's data requires "hydrinos" as far as I
can tell right now. Or, most likely, what Marchese sees has nothing to
do with "hydrinos" - this is a complex phenomenon remember.
PZ: I think the evidence claimed for hydrinos goes well beyond these
plasmas. I think Mills et al. have published spectroscopic evidence?
JS: I strongly doubt that. Can you be specific? If so, I am a Monkey's
Uncle and will eat my hat if David Williams sends me one made out of
hemp!  See Robert Laughlin "A Different Universe" directly addresses
this kind of issue!
PZ: OK. |
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