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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:50 pm |
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Feb. 27, 2007
Katherine Trinidad
Headquarters, Washington
202-358-3749
Kyle Herring/Jessica Rye
Kennedy Space Center, Fla.
321-867-2468
RELEASE: 07-60
HAIL DAMAGE FORCES SHUTTLE ATLANTIS OFF LAUNCH PAD
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - NASA decided Tuesday to roll the space shuttle
Atlantis off its launch pad and back inside the Vehicle Assembly
Building at the Kennedy Space Center. Managers made the decision
after a hail storm Monday damaged the orbiter's External Tank. A new
target launch date has not been determined, but teams will focus on
preparing Atlantis for liftoff in late April.
On Monday, a severe thunderstorm with golf ball-size hail caused what
could be 1,000 to 2,000 divots in the giant tank's foam insulation
and minor surface damage to about 26 heat shield tiles on the
shuttle's left wing. Further evaluation of the tank is necessary to
get an accurate accounting of foam damage and must be done in the
Vehicle Assembly Building, where the entire tank can be more easily
accessed. The shuttle is expected to be moved off the pad by early
next week.
Once an up-close look at the damage is complete, the type of repair
required and the time needed for that work can be determined.
Atlantis' flight, STS-117, to the International Space Station will be
scheduled sometime after a Russian Soyuz spacecraft returns from the
station. The Soyuz is delivering new station crew members and
returning others back to Earth in late April. Adequate time is needed
between the Soyuz undocking and the shuttle's arrival to the station.
STS-117 Commander Rick Sturckow, Pilot Lee Archambault and mission
specialists Jim Reilly, Patrick Forrester, Steven Swanson and John
"Danny" Olivas will continue training at NASA's Johnson Space Center,
Houston, as they await a new target launch date. During the 11-day
mission, the astronauts will work with the station crew and ground
teams to install a new truss segment, unfold a new set of solar
arrays and retract one array on the starboard side of the station.
Space Shuttle Program managers are gathered at the Kennedy Space
Center for the traditional Flight Readiness Review for the mission.
During the two-day meeting, NASA managers and engineers assess any
risks associated with the mission and determine whether the shuttle's
equipment, support systems and procedures are ready for flight. The
meeting, scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday, will continue as
planned.
For information about the STS-117 crew and mission, visit:
http://www.nasa.gov/shuttle
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| hallerb@aol.com |
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:26 pm |
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On Feb 27, 8:50?pm, baa...@earthlink.net wrote:
Quote: Feb. 27, 2007
Katherine Trinidad
Headquarters, Washington
202-358-3749
Kyle Herring/Jessica Rye
Kennedy Space Center, Fla.
321-867-2468
RELEASE: 07-60
HAIL DAMAGE FORCES SHUTTLE ATLANTIS OFF LAUNCH PAD
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - NASA decided Tuesday to roll the space shuttle
Atlantis off its launch pad and back inside the Vehicle Assembly
Building at the Kennedy Space Center. Managers made the decision
after a hail storm Monday damaged the orbiter's External Tank. A new
target launch date has not been determined, but teams will focus on
preparing Atlantis for liftoff in late April.
On Monday, a severe thunderstorm with golf ball-size hail caused what
could be 1,000 to 2,000 divots in the giant tank's foam insulation
and minor surface damage to about 26 heat shield tiles on the
shuttle's left wing. Further evaluation of the tank is necessary to
get an accurate accounting of foam damage and must be done in the
Vehicle Assembly Building, where the entire tank can be more easily
accessed. The shuttle is expected to be moved off the pad by early
next week.
Once an up-close look at the damage is complete, the type of repair
required and the time needed for that work can be determined.
Atlantis' flight, STS-117, to the International Space Station will be
scheduled sometime after a Russian Soyuz spacecraft returns from the
station. The Soyuz is delivering new station crew members and
returning others back to Earth in late April. Adequate time is needed
between the Soyuz undocking and the shuttle's arrival to the station.
STS-117 Commander Rick Sturckow, Pilot Lee Archambault and mission
specialists Jim Reilly, Patrick Forrester, Steven Swanson and John
"Danny" Olivas will continue training at NASA's Johnson Space Center,
Houston, as they await a new target launch date. During the 11-day
mission, the astronauts will work with the station crew and ground
teams to install a new truss segment, unfold a new set of solar
arrays and retract one array on the starboard side of the station.
Space Shuttle Program managers are gathered at the Kennedy Space
Center for the traditional Flight Readiness Review for the mission.
During the two-day meeting, NASA managers and engineers assess any
risks associated with the mission and determine whether the shuttle's
equipment, support systems and procedures are ready for flight. The
meeting, scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday, will continue as
planned.
For information about the STS-117 crew and mission, visit:
http://www.nasa.gov/shuttle
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theres NO WAY the station will be complete anywhere near the end date
for the shuttle.
It just isnt going to happen.
They will need a new tank, not at KSC.
The delays just keep adding up |
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| Danny Deger |
Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:50 pm |
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<baalke@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Quote: Feb. 27, 2007
Katherine Trinidad
Headquarters, Washington
202-358-3749
Kyle Herring/Jessica Rye
Kennedy Space Center, Fla.
321-867-2468
RELEASE: 07-60
HAIL DAMAGE FORCES SHUTTLE ATLANTIS OFF LAUNCH PAD
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - NASA decided Tuesday to roll the space shuttle
Atlantis off its launch pad and back inside the Vehicle Assembly
Building at the Kennedy Space Center. Managers made the decision
after a hail storm Monday damaged the orbiter's External Tank. A new
target launch date has not been determined, but teams will focus on
preparing Atlantis for liftoff in late April.
On Monday, a severe thunderstorm with golf ball-size hail caused what
could be 1,000 to 2,000 divots in the giant tank's foam insulation
and minor surface damage to about 26 heat shield tiles on the
shuttle's left wing. Further evaluation of the tank is necessary to
get an accurate accounting of foam damage and must be done in the
Vehicle Assembly Building, where the entire tank can be more easily
accessed. The shuttle is expected to be moved off the pad by early
next week.
I hope they design Orion to stay in a hanger until the day of launch. IMO
space ships should not be stored outside for any length of time.
Danny Deger
P.S. The more I think about it, the happier I am I took an early retirement
from NASA. |
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| Brian Gaff |
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:04 am |
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I'm just glad I was not out in a hail storm like that. Is this size of
stones normal over there?
I agree that the Shuttle will need a lengthening of its end date, but I
fancy they may get a one off injection of money to facilitate this nearer
the time as the last thing the USA will need is people saying it does not
fulfil its commitments.
Brian
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<hallerb@aol.com> wrote in message
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Quote: On Feb 27, 8:50?pm, baa...@earthlink.net wrote:
Feb. 27, 2007
Katherine Trinidad
Headquarters, Washington
202-358-3749
Kyle Herring/Jessica Rye
Kennedy Space Center, Fla.
321-867-2468
RELEASE: 07-60
HAIL DAMAGE FORCES SHUTTLE ATLANTIS OFF LAUNCH PAD
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - NASA decided Tuesday to roll the space shuttle
Atlantis off its launch pad and back inside the Vehicle Assembly
Building at the Kennedy Space Center. Managers made the decision
after a hail storm Monday damaged the orbiter's External Tank. A new
target launch date has not been determined, but teams will focus on
preparing Atlantis for liftoff in late April.
On Monday, a severe thunderstorm with golf ball-size hail caused what
could be 1,000 to 2,000 divots in the giant tank's foam insulation
and minor surface damage to about 26 heat shield tiles on the
shuttle's left wing. Further evaluation of the tank is necessary to
get an accurate accounting of foam damage and must be done in the
Vehicle Assembly Building, where the entire tank can be more easily
accessed. The shuttle is expected to be moved off the pad by early
next week.
Once an up-close look at the damage is complete, the type of repair
required and the time needed for that work can be determined.
Atlantis' flight, STS-117, to the International Space Station will be
scheduled sometime after a Russian Soyuz spacecraft returns from the
station. The Soyuz is delivering new station crew members and
returning others back to Earth in late April. Adequate time is needed
between the Soyuz undocking and the shuttle's arrival to the station.
STS-117 Commander Rick Sturckow, Pilot Lee Archambault and mission
specialists Jim Reilly, Patrick Forrester, Steven Swanson and John
"Danny" Olivas will continue training at NASA's Johnson Space Center,
Houston, as they await a new target launch date. During the 11-day
mission, the astronauts will work with the station crew and ground
teams to install a new truss segment, unfold a new set of solar
arrays and retract one array on the starboard side of the station.
Space Shuttle Program managers are gathered at the Kennedy Space
Center for the traditional Flight Readiness Review for the mission.
During the two-day meeting, NASA managers and engineers assess any
risks associated with the mission and determine whether the shuttle's
equipment, support systems and procedures are ready for flight. The
meeting, scheduled for Tuesday and Wednesday, will continue as
planned.
For information about the STS-117 crew and mission, visit:
http://www.nasa.gov/shuttle
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theres NO WAY the station will be complete anywhere near the end date
for the shuttle.
It just isnt going to happen.
They will need a new tank, not at KSC.
The delays just keep adding up
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| Brian Gaff |
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:58 pm |
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Oh come on you can't blame them for the weather, surely!
:-)
Brian
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"Danny Deger" <dannydeger@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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baalke@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1172627449.918082.172800@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
Feb. 27, 2007
Katherine Trinidad
Headquarters, Washington
202-358-3749
Kyle Herring/Jessica Rye
Kennedy Space Center, Fla.
321-867-2468
RELEASE: 07-60
HAIL DAMAGE FORCES SHUTTLE ATLANTIS OFF LAUNCH PAD
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - NASA decided Tuesday to roll the space shuttle
Atlantis off its launch pad and back inside the Vehicle Assembly
Building at the Kennedy Space Center. Managers made the decision
after a hail storm Monday damaged the orbiter's External Tank. A new
target launch date has not been determined, but teams will focus on
preparing Atlantis for liftoff in late April.
On Monday, a severe thunderstorm with golf ball-size hail caused what
could be 1,000 to 2,000 divots in the giant tank's foam insulation
and minor surface damage to about 26 heat shield tiles on the
shuttle's left wing. Further evaluation of the tank is necessary to
get an accurate accounting of foam damage and must be done in the
Vehicle Assembly Building, where the entire tank can be more easily
accessed. The shuttle is expected to be moved off the pad by early
next week.
I hope they design Orion to stay in a hanger until the day of launch. IMO
space ships should not be stored outside for any length of time.
Danny Deger
P.S. The more I think about it, the happier I am I took an early
retirement from NASA.
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| Skylon |
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:06 pm |
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On Feb 27, 9:26 pm, "hall...@aol.com" <hall...@aol.com> wrote:
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theres NO WAY the station will be complete anywhere near the end date
for the shuttle.
It just isnt going to happen.
They will need a new tank, not at KSC.
The delays just keep adding up
Loopy pessimism aside...it doesn't seem like this is impacting
STS-118's target launch date of June. Anyone hear otherwise?
I'd wager the next ET is at KSC and available for a possible ET swap
due to the standing requirement an STS-300 style rescue be possible
these days...that is, if NASA decides such a change is necessary.
-A.L. |
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| Danny Deger |
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:10 pm |
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"Brian Gaff" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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Quote: Oh come on you can't blame them for the weather, surely!
:-)
Brian
Please don't call me shirley :-)
But I do blame NASA for a design that sits outside for months at a time.
The law of probability say a hail storm or worse IS going to happen. Not to
mention salt water corrosion!!!
Danny
Danny Deger
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baalke@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Feb. 27, 2007
Katherine Trinidad
Headquarters, Washington
202-358-3749
Kyle Herring/Jessica Rye
Kennedy Space Center, Fla.
321-867-2468
RELEASE: 07-60
HAIL DAMAGE FORCES SHUTTLE ATLANTIS OFF LAUNCH PAD
CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. - NASA decided Tuesday to roll the space shuttle
Atlantis off its launch pad and back inside the Vehicle Assembly
Building at the Kennedy Space Center. Managers made the decision
after a hail storm Monday damaged the orbiter's External Tank. A new
target launch date has not been determined, but teams will focus on
preparing Atlantis for liftoff in late April.
On Monday, a severe thunderstorm with golf ball-size hail caused what
could be 1,000 to 2,000 divots in the giant tank's foam insulation
and minor surface damage to about 26 heat shield tiles on the
shuttle's left wing. Further evaluation of the tank is necessary to
get an accurate accounting of foam damage and must be done in the
Vehicle Assembly Building, where the entire tank can be more easily
accessed. The shuttle is expected to be moved off the pad by early
next week.
I hope they design Orion to stay in a hanger until the day of launch.
IMO space ships should not be stored outside for any length of time.
Danny Deger
P.S. The more I think about it, the happier I am I took an early
retirement from NASA.
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| hallerb@aol.com |
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:00 pm |
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On Feb 28, 6:06?pm, "Skylon" <sky...@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Feb 27, 9:26 pm, "hall...@aol.com" <hall...@aol.com> wrote:
theres NO WAY the station will be complete anywhere near the end date
for the shuttle.
It just isnt going to happen.
They will need a new tank, not at KSC.
The delays just keep adding up
Loopy pessimism aside...it doesn't seem like this is impacting
STS-118's target launch date of June. Anyone hear otherwise?
I'd wager the next ET is at KSC and available for a possible ET swap
due to the standing requirement an STS-300 style rescue be possible
these days...that is, if NASA decides such a change is necessary.
-A.L.
KSC has NO TANK on site.
That schedule just keeps slipping and they havent found ANY NEW tech
troubles, must be some of them too.
Cant fly with that tank WAY too much damage.
Plus congressional budget cuts are delaying replacement vehicle 6
months to a year.
shuttle will fly till it kills again:( |
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| Craig Fink |
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:10 pm |
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| Craig Fink |
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:11 pm |
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I hope they design Orion to stay on the drawing board. I don't want to live
in a backwards thinking Country, reliving the past. Nothing new there, yet
everything is ...
Craig Fink
Courtesy E-Mail Welcome @ WeBeGood@GMail.Com
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Danny Deger wrote:
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I hope they design Orion to stay in a hanger until the day of launch. IMO
space ships should not be stored outside for any length of time.
Danny Deger
P.S. The more I think about it, the happier I am I took an early
retirement from NASA.
As much as I've complained about paper studies at NASA, maybe that's where
Orion should stay. |
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| Skylon |
Posted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:41 pm |
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On Feb 28, 10:00 pm, "hall...@aol.com" <hall...@aol.com> wrote:
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KSC has NO TANK on site.
Apparently not as the CSCS for STS 117 has almost the same launch date
as STS-118.
So, the tank will likely be patched up in the VAB I guess. The
question is if a de-stack is necessary to get to the damaged areas of
the tank. Either way, April is a ways off, and flying then doesn't
seem to impact any down-stream missions much.
-A.L. |
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| robert casey |
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:26 am |
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Quote: KSC has NO TANK on site.
So, the tank will likely be patched up in the VAB I guess.
I doubt NASA could trust such a repaired tank. There's probably lots of
cracks and such that would cause massive amounts of falling foam during
launch. And you know how hazardous that is to a shuttle. |
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| Danny Deger |
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:42 am |
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"robert casey" <wa2ise@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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KSC has NO TANK on site.
So, the tank will likely be patched up in the VAB I guess.
I doubt NASA could trust such a repaired tank. There's probably lots of
cracks and such that would cause massive amounts of falling foam during
launch. And you know how hazardous that is to a shuttle.
I thought the NASA safety policy was "if hail damage hasn't been a safety
issue in the past it can't be now", a.k.a. we haven't killed anyone lately,
we are by definition OK to fly.
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| hallerb@aol.com |
Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 9:23 am |
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Florida today suggests launch pushed back to june.
Threres no way they will launch that tank as it would appear reckless |
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