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| Guest |
 Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:06 am |
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The idea that everyone is responsible for everything that happens to
them leads people to support those who are up, but not the same people
when they are
down.
This is known as being a fair-weather friend.
The idea that everyone is responsible for everything that happens to
them leads people to believe that nobody can interfere in anyone's life
from
idealistic motives, while people do (and have always done, and will
always most likely do) interfere in people's lives from non-idealistic
motives.
This is known as hypocrisy.
The idea that everyone is responsible for everything that happens to
them leads people to do nothing to prevent wrong.
This is known as moral supinity.
The idea that everyone is responsible for everything that happens to
them leads people to deny support where it's needed and think that
nobody can be of
help to another person.
This is known as cowardice.
The idea that everyone is responsible for everything that happens to
them leads people to avoid things that are either shared responsibility
or that involve emotional share.
This is known as selfishness.
The idea that everyone is responsible for everything that happens to
them leads people to blame those who are down for their misfortune,
while doing
nothing to those who are causing the problem.
This is known as evil.
It is for these reasons that I stepped away from New Age.
I still support things like meditation and wind chimes. But the
worldview and ethic behind it, I find completely repugnant and will do
nothing to support.
http://ibshambat.blogspot.com
Ilya Shambat. |
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| humble.life |
| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:19 am |
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ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com wrote:
[quote:c79ae6971c]The idea that everyone is responsible for everything that happens to
them leads people to support those who are up, but not the same people
when they are
down.
This is known as being a fair-weather friend.
The idea that everyone is responsible for everything that happens to
them leads people to believe that nobody can interfere in anyone's life
from
idealistic motives, while people do (and have always done, and will
always most likely do) interfere in people's lives from non-idealistic
motives.
This is known as hypocrisy.
The idea that everyone is responsible for everything that happens to
them leads people to do nothing to prevent wrong.
This is known as moral supinity.
The idea that everyone is responsible for everything that happens to
them leads people to deny support where it's needed and think that
nobody can be of
help to another person.
This is known as cowardice.
The idea that everyone is responsible for everything that happens to
them leads people to avoid things that are either shared responsibility
or that involve emotional share.
This is known as selfishness.
The idea that everyone is responsible for everything that happens to
them leads people to blame those who are down for their misfortune,
while doing
nothing to those who are causing the problem.
This is known as evil.
It is for these reasons that I stepped away from New Age.
I still support things like meditation and wind chimes. But the
worldview and ethic behind it, I find completely repugnant and will do
nothing to support.
http://ibshambat.blogspot.com
Ilya Shambat.
[/quote:c79ae6971c]
Yeh...
Belief in Karma allows for the "loser" construct, "you must have done
something...". Grabbing any old useful thing from religion and applying
it using over-simplications for easy self-satisfaction. Leading to
painful dissmissiveness from a world-wide movement.
Good on you, and well written. |
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| Guest |
| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:36 am |
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On 26 Jul 2006 06:06:32 -0700, ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com wrote:
[quote:8b0204f7e6]The idea that everyone is responsible for everything that happens to
them leads people to support those who are up, but not the same people
when they are
down.
This is known as being a fair-weather friend.
The idea that everyone is responsible for everything that happens to
them leads people to believe that nobody can interfere in anyone's life
from
idealistic motives, while people do (and have always done, and will
always most likely do) interfere in people's lives from non-idealistic
motives.
[/quote:8b0204f7e6]
If everyone is responsible for everything that happens to them, aka
responsible for every decision they make, then we would have complete
free will.
But if you read a book, are you as a reader not FORCED to interrpet
the words at least to a certain degree as any other reader?
So that would be outside influence/interference we don't have control
over. Aka not responsible for.
Cheers. |
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| humble.life |
| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:16 am |
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Vince@Vincemail.com wrote:
[quote:bcd706ddbe]On 26 Jul 2006 06:06:32 -0700, ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com wrote:
The idea that everyone is responsible for everything that happens to
them leads people to support those who are up, but not the same people
when they are
down.
This is known as being a fair-weather friend.
The idea that everyone is responsible for everything that happens to
them leads people to believe that nobody can interfere in anyone's life
from
idealistic motives, while people do (and have always done, and will
always most likely do) interfere in people's lives from non-idealistic
motives.
If everyone is responsible for everything that happens to them, aka
responsible for every decision they make, then we would have complete
free will.
But if you read a book, are you as a reader not FORCED to interrpet
the words at least to a certain degree as any other reader?
So that would be outside influence/interference we don't have control
over. Aka not responsible for.
Cheers.
[/quote:bcd706ddbe]
Terminology must be agreed for effective communication, thus their are
bound to be overlaps and your argument is one from semantic imagination
rather than an altruistic viewpoint.
cheers. |
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| Otto Bahn |
| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:02 pm |
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<Vince@Vincemail.com> wrote
[quote:ce9e8d6432]But if you read a book, are you as a reader not FORCED to interrpet
the words at least to a certain degree as any other reader?
[/quote:ce9e8d6432]
This is stupid beyond belief. We freely choose to interpret
what a troll writes.
--oTTo-- |
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| papaia |
| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:13 pm |
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Pardon me w/my non-native English question - what is "[moral] supinity" ?!?
Thanks,
P.
P.S. Started reading the blog - very good!
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 07:06:32 -0700, ilya_shambat2004 wrote:
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[quote:1afda47e66]The idea that everyone is responsible for everything that happens to
them leads people to do nothing to prevent wrong.
This is known as moral supinity.
snip[/quote:1afda47e66] |
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| humble.life |
| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:13 pm |
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Otto Bahn wrote:
[quote:4ee501bf6a]Vince@Vincemail.com> wrote
But if you read a book, are you as a reader not FORCED to interrpet
the words at least to a certain degree as any other reader?
This is stupid beyond belief. We freely choose to interpret
what a troll writes.
--oTTo--
no-one's trolling, just isolationism and it's effects.[/quote:4ee501bf6a] |
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| andy-k |
| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:40 pm |
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"papaia" <papaia.a@home.ro> wrote:
[quote:ea94ebbc53]Pardon me w/my non-native English question - what is "[moral] supinity"
?!?
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From the word "supine" meaning "indolent" or "inactive". |
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| Chris McGonnell |
| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:00 pm |
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:13:50 +0100, "humble.life" wrote:
[quote:c185c193e2]Otto Bahn wrote:
Vince@Vincemail.com> wrote
But if you read a book, are you as a reader not FORCED to interrpet
the words at least to a certain degree as any other reader?
This is stupid beyond belief. We freely choose to interpret
what a troll writes.
--oTTo--
no-one's trolling, just isolationism and it's effects.
[/quote:c185c193e2]
That's such an obvious troll, I refuse to reply.
--
Chris McG.
Harming humanity since 1951.
"My dog ate my gratitude journal." -- Paula
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| Daniel T. |
| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:47 pm |
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The idea that no one is responsible for anything that happens to them
leads people to reckless conduct.
The idea that no one is responsible for anything that happens to them
leads people to abandon hope of helping anyone.
The idea that no one is responsible for anything that happens to them
leads people to do nothing to prevent wrong.
The idea that no one is responsible for anything that happens to them
leads people to deny support where it's needed and think that they have
nothing to gain by helping to another person.
[quote:45a2466081]It is for these reasons that I stepped away from New Age.
I still support things like meditation and wind chimes. But the
worldview and ethic behind it, I find completely repugnant and will do
nothing to support.
[/quote:45a2466081]
And you spit in the face of those who are willing and able to help you. |
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| Glenn Knickerbocker |
| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:36 pm |
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"Daniel T." wrote:
[quote:570b7a46e0]The idea that no one is responsible for anything that happens to them
leads people to reckless conduct.
The idea that no one is responsible for anything that happens to them
leads people to abandon hope of helping anyone.
The idea that no one is responsible for anything that happens to them
leads people to do nothing to prevent wrong.
[/quote:570b7a46e0]
One might even say that this idea is responsible for all the ills of the
world.
Or that the notion that such an idea could be responsible for the ills of
the world is what's responsible for all the ills of the world.
Ad infinitum.
¬R |
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| humble.life |
| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:36 pm |
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Chris McGonnell wrote:
[quote:d74683d241]On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:13:50 +0100, "humble.life" wrote:
Otto Bahn wrote:
Vince@Vincemail.com> wrote
But if you read a book, are you as a reader not FORCED to interrpet
the words at least to a certain degree as any other reader?
This is stupid beyond belief. We freely choose to interpret
what a troll writes.
--oTTo--
no-one's trolling, just isolationism and it's effects.
That's such an obvious troll, I refuse to reply.
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[/quote:d74683d241]
ok, don't |
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| eoygeo |
| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:38 pm |
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Daniel T. wrote:
[quote:c067774ddd]The idea that no one is responsible for anything that happens to them
leads people to reckless conduct.
The idea that no one is responsible for anything that happens to them
leads people to abandon hope of helping anyone.
The idea that no one is responsible for anything that happens to them
leads people to do nothing to prevent wrong.
The idea that no one is responsible for anything that happens to them
leads people to deny support where it's needed and think that they have
nothing to gain by helping to another person.
It is for these reasons that I stepped away from New Age.
I still support things like meditation and wind chimes. But the
worldview and ethic behind it, I find completely repugnant and will do
nothing to support.
And you spit in the face of those who are willing and able to help you.
[/quote:c067774ddd]
Where interconnectedness of a stamina and poverty vs. energy and
population, a world one attract to choise a freedom allows be
individualistic sorts out a freedom of a dominence vs. a power allows
understaind directions both backward and forward one live in the world
of a relationships of how easy or how hard to go into known world or
unknown world depends on what scale has to measure a values, and i feel
so singularly free and I can be with a time and have a good dream or
bad dream and wake up find myself in a bad dreamtime a while work for
the freedom within my ability to grasp differences abuse in dominece
and power.
People love in peace,
I do. |
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| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:36 pm |
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humble.life wrote:
[quote:fe4d21bf9f]Chris McGonnell wrote:
That's such an obvious troll, I refuse to reply.
ok, don't
[/quote:fe4d21bf9f]
Indeed.
They don't have to read either. I'm not trying to reach them, I'm
trying to reach people who would benefit from my insights.
So to all these people accusing me of violating netiquette, my response
is: Kiss my ass.
What I'm doing is more important than their petty little cliques, and I
am willing to risk their hatred in order to get the word out. |
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| Mark Edwards |
| Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:04 pm |
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[snip pop-psych insights]
No cluons were harmed when ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com wrote:
[quote:a9d19f4708]So to all these people accusing me of violating netiquette, my
response
is: Kiss my ass.
What I'm doing is more important than their petty little cliques,
and I
am willing to risk their hatred in order to get the word out.
[/quote:a9d19f4708]
How about their venomous mutant mouse/grasshopper hybrids? Or their
orbiting warrior-robot manufacturing plants? Or their extensive
network of wireless egg-beaters? Are you willing to risk that? Well
are you?
I need to know for... uh... a science project. Or something.
Mark Edwards
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Proof of Sanity Forged Upon Request |
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