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Shimmy Shammy
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:14 pm
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HERE'S THE WHOLE THING...
http://kpftx.org/
 
Shimmy Shammy
Posted: Tue Sep 20, 2005 7:23 pm
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OOPS! HERE is the FULL VIDEO... REALLY
ENJOY! It's worth watching -- very entertaining.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1486278/posts
The video link is just after the first article.
 
James A. Donald
Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:26 pm
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:52:31 -0700, The World Wide Wade
[quote:7339217109]I think Galloway came away the victor by far.
(Hitchens ad nauseum tells the audience they sound
like animals when they jeer him;
[/quote:7339217109]
You recollect incorrectly. They were not jeering
Hitchens, when he called them that. They were jeering
the one hundred and sixty innocents murdered that day by
islamic radicals.


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Shimmy Shammy
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:28 am
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They were jeering his use of victims as a debate tactic. Besides,
since Hitchens is in favor of sending and creating more victims in
Iraq, perhaps his silence should have been unending rather than just a
moment.
 
James A. Donald
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:06 pm
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[quote:c529c31969]They were not jeering Hitchens, when he called them
that. They were jeering the one hundred and sixty
innocents murdered that day by islamic radicals.
[/quote:c529c31969]
"Shimmy Shammy"
[quote:c529c31969]They were jeering his use of victims as a debate
tactic.
[/quote:c529c31969]
You are rationalizing. They were jeering the victims.
That is what the jeers said.


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Jeffrey Turner
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 2:12 pm
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James A. Donald wrote:

[quote:f0a435b8df]--

They were not jeering Hitchens, when he called them
that. They were jeering the one hundred and sixty
innocents murdered that day by islamic radicals.


"Shimmy Shammy"

They were jeering his use of victims as a debate
tactic.


You are rationalizing. They were jeering the victims.
That is what the jeers said.
[/quote:f0a435b8df]
You don't mind if your tax dollars go to help the Iraqis, as
long as they aren't used to help Americans. Is that your
position, James?

--Jeff

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of such Property."
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The World Wide Wade
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:01 pm
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In article
<1127474895.359666.163750@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Shimmy Shammy" <shimshammaam@yahoo.com> wrote:

[quote:5d22de0198]They were jeering his use of victims as a debate tactic. Besides,
since Hitchens is in favor of sending and creating more victims in
Iraq, perhaps his silence should have been unending rather than just a
moment.
[/quote:5d22de0198]
They jeered more than that, but I'm glad you reminded me of the
sleazy moment of silence Hitchens "took out of his time" - what
an asshole.
 
Robi
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 3:21 pm
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The BBC take on it can be found on this page:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/
Personally, I thought it was a good old fashioned rough and tumble
debate. Galloway would be expected to be better at it because of all
the time he has spent in Westminster roughing-up (and being roughed-up
by) the opposition. As far as the baying students are concerned I
thought they were just doing doing what they do, one can over over
intellectualise these things.
 
Josh Dougherty
Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 10:38 pm
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"James A. Donald" <jamesd@echeque.com> wrote in message
news:pug8j1to1oddfu10l3edu7bpkjorc0l5g1@4ax.com...
[quote:1eeae4373c]--
They were not jeering Hitchens, when he called them
that. They were jeering the one hundred and sixty
innocents murdered that day by islamic radicals.

"Shimmy Shammy"
They were jeering his use of victims as a debate
tactic.

You are rationalizing. They were jeering the victims.
That is what the jeers said.
[/quote:1eeae4373c]
You've been listening to what the voices in your head have been saying for
too long if you think anyone's going to buy this line.
 
Mason A. Clark
Posted: Sat Sep 24, 2005 2:12 am
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More constructive are the comments of Michael Howard:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/
 
James A. Donald
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:14 am
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James A. Donald:
[quote:7b3b16e839]You are rationalizing. They were jeering the
victims. That is what the jeers said.
[/quote:7b3b16e839]
Jeffrey Turner
[quote:7b3b16e839]You don't mind if your tax dollars go to help the
Iraqis, as long as they aren't used to help Americans.
Is that your position, James?
[/quote:7b3b16e839]
Unlike you guys, I am able to disagree with the
occupation of Iraq without supporting fascist dictators
and terrorists who blow up children.

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Jeffrey Turner
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 7:19 am
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James A. Donald wrote:

[quote:a0d136c35a]--
James A. Donald:

You are rationalizing. They were jeering the
victims. That is what the jeers said.


Jeffrey Turner

You don't mind if your tax dollars go to help the
Iraqis, as long as they aren't used to help Americans.
Is that your position, James?


Unlike you guys, I am able to disagree with the
occupation of Iraq without supporting fascist dictators
and terrorists who blow up children.
[/quote:a0d136c35a]
I thought you liked Bush.

--Jeff

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that if American democracy ceases to
move forward as a living force, seeking
day and night by peaceful means to
better the lot of our citizens, then
Fascism and Communism, aided, unconsciously
perhaps, by old-line Tory Republicanism,
will grow in strength in our land.
--Franklin Delano Roosevelt
 
James A. Donald
Posted: Sat Oct 01, 2005 10:59 pm
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Jeffrey Turner
[quote:82df5c247a]You don't mind if your tax dollars go to help the
Iraqis, as long as they aren't used to help
Americans. Is that your position, James?
[/quote:82df5c247a]
James A. Donald:
[quote:82df5c247a]Unlike you guys, I am able to disagree with the
occupation of Iraq without supporting fascist
dictators and terrorists who blow up children.
[/quote:82df5c247a]
Jeffrey Turner
[quote:82df5c247a]I thought you liked Bush.
[/quote:82df5c247a]
You think anyone who fails to cheer when terrorists
mutilate Americans must like Bush.


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Shannon Jacobs
Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:51 am
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Jim Blair wrote:
<old stuff snip>
[quote:1a70a7fb1c]Hi,

Sorry but I missed that debate. But is that the same Galloway that
was collecting millions from Saddam under cover of the "oil for food"
UN program?
Maybe he had an economic interest in keeping the status quo?

I am old enough to remember when the Liberals and Democrats were the
"war party" and eager to dispose an evil dictator because he "gassed
his own people", and the Conservatives and Republicans were the
"peace party". As in "Peace in our Times".
sig snip[/quote:1a70a7fb1c]

Old enough to repeat dittohead talking points. Also old enough for
ploinking.

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Chas
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2005 4:15 am
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How about JFK who gave us Vietnam? I'm old enough to remember how Kennedy
pushed us into that conflict through devious means. I remember when the
Liberal Press and the entire Democratic party were screaming about how we
needed to bring Democracy to Vietnam.





[quote:a547664036]came away the victor by far.

Hi,

Sorry but I missed that debate. But is that the same Galloway that was
collecting millions from Saddam under cover of the "oil for food" UN
program?
Maybe he had an economic interest in keeping the status quo?

I am old enough to remember when the Liberals and Democrats were the "war
party" and eager to dispose an evil dictator because he "gassed his own
people", and the Conservatives and Republicans were the "peace party". As
in "Peace in our Times".


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