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| Dilettante |
 Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2003 8:09 am |
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I am looking for a chemical or another means that will completely
remove wax that have been rubbed onto paper. The chemical should leave
no stain or residue because I will be brushing on coloured ink over
the previously waxed area. So the paper must be able to re-absorb
coloured inks
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| M. Tiefert |
| Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2003 2:57 pm |
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In article <ba63903f.0311290509.6746baff@posting.google.com>, hurry@myself.com (Dilettante) wrote:
Quote: I am looking for a chemical or another means that will completely
remove wax that have been rubbed onto paper. The chemical should leave
no stain or residue because I will be brushing on coloured ink over
the previously waxed area. So the paper must be able to re-absorb
coloured inks
Dilettante
You could place the waxed paper between two sheets of absorbant paper
and iron it. It probably won't get _absolutely_ all the wax out, so your
colored-ink washes may have an interesting texture.
cheers,
Marj
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| Bernhard Kuemel |
| Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 5:45 am |
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M. Tiefert wrote:
Quote: In article <ba63903f.0311290509.6746baff@posting.google.com>, hurry@myself.com (Dilettante) wrote:
I am looking for a chemical or another means that will completely
remove wax that have been rubbed onto paper. The chemical should leave
no stain or residue because I will be brushing on coloured ink over
the previously waxed area. So the paper must be able to re-absorb
coloured inks
Ligroin should solve your problem. Maybe a soxhlet extraction  .
Bernhard
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| Frank Logullo |
| Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2003 7:24 am |
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"Bernhard Kuemel" <darsie@gmx.at> wrote in message
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Quote: M. Tiefert wrote:
In article <ba63903f.0311290509.6746baff@posting.google.com>,
hurry@myself.com (Dilettante) wrote:
I am looking for a chemical or another means that will completely
remove wax that have been rubbed onto paper. The chemical should leave
no stain or residue because I will be brushing on coloured ink over
the previously waxed area. So the paper must be able to re-absorb
coloured inks
Ligroin should solve your problem. Maybe a soxhlet extraction .
Any hot petroleum product would dissolve wax including polyethylene. Some
wax may be soluble in acetone but would also require extraction by soaking,
etc.
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| Edward Hennessey |
| Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 6:31 pm |
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I was looking for such a method as well but my researches to date have not
found
any process or chemical solvent exists which will do the job and
leave the paper undamaged. What most solvents do that I've tried is smear
the colored wax that has been my focus, removing some of it but leaving a
telltale residue.
Steaming works satisfactorily with marked fabric but paper will not tolerate
the process. If you
have paper coated with clear wax, you might want to try an industrial heat
gun
or blow dryer being careful not to reach temperatures which would harm the
paper.
That is the next method on my list of experiments. Let us know if you have
positive
results.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey
"Dilettante" <hurry@myself.com> wrote in message
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Quote: I am looking for a chemical or another means that will completely
remove wax that have been rubbed onto paper. The chemical should leave
no stain or residue because I will be brushing on coloured ink over
the previously waxed area. So the paper must be able to re-absorb
coloured inks
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| Richard |
| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 8:28 am |
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"Edward Hennessey" <seesigline@nospam.org> wrote in message news:<YE0Lb.32359$IM3.7872@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
Quote: "Dilettante" <hurry@myself.com> wrote in message
news:ba63903f.0311290509.6746baff@posting.google.com...
I am looking for a chemical or another means that will completely
remove wax that have been rubbed onto paper. The chemical should leave
no stain or residue because I will be brushing on coloured ink over
the previously waxed area. So the paper must be able to re-absorb
coloured inks
Dilettante
You got me curious. What is it about this paper that makes all the
effort to remove some wax worth while? Why not get clean paper? My
experience with extractions leads me to think you may never get "all"
the wax residues out of your paper- you might damage the paper if you
try hard enough, however.
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| Edward Hennessey |
| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 2:52 pm |
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The impregnated or marked papers I am referring to are integral parts of
books and therefore cannot
be removed without the realization of the greater damage done. I fully agree
that using new, clean paper is the
only sensible route when that is an option. Unfortunately, some used books
either come priced on the inside
pages in crayon or are marred by childish scrawlings on the pages. I've
tracked discussions on art conservation groups that are relevant, only to
report no solutions as yet by people who are very assiduous in their
approach to problems.
What Dilettante is concerned with remains for him to say.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey
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You got me curious. What is it about this paper that makes all the
effort to remove some wax worth while? Why not get clean paper? My
experience with extractions leads me to think you may never get "all"
the wax residues out of your paper- you might damage the paper if you
try hard enough, however.
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| Guest |
| Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 5:37 pm |
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Quote: The impregnated or marked papers I am referring to are integral
parts of books and therefore cannot be removed without the
realization of the greater damage done. I fully agree that using
new, clean paper is the only sensible route when that is an option.
Unfortunately, some used books either come priced on the inside
pages in crayon or are marred by childish scrawlings on the pages.
I've tracked discussions on art conservation groups that are relevant,
only to report no solutions as yet by people who are very assiduous
in their approach to problems.
It sounds like you've already contacted book professionals and
are now trying chemists but I'll risk backtracking a bit. Have
you contacted the Restoration / Conservation departments of
MAJOR libraries that do R&D on these problems? Depending on
where you are located:
http://www.loc.gov/ (US Library of Congress)
http://www.bl.uk/ (British Library)
any major university libraries in your area: Stanford ... U
Chicago ... Columbia ... etc.
Other than that, I'm thinking along the lines of slow, dry
diffusion into a more receptive page of clean "paper". Slip
a sheet of ?filter paper? ?silk? ?nylon? between the pages,
close and press the book and let it sit for a loooong time.
book paper <-> wax, colored dyes <-> ?other absorbant?
Unfortunately, the dyes are probably specifically chosen for
their strong adherance to cellulose.
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| David Stranz |
| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 12:23 pm |
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"Dilettante" <hurry@myself.com> wrote in message
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I am looking for a chemical or another means that will
completely remove wax that have been rubbed onto paper. The
chemical should leave no stain or residue because I will be
brushing on coloured ink over the previously waxed area. So the
paper must be able to re-absorb coloured inks
Dilettante
What about something like dry-cleaning? There's no water involved to
my knowledge, so it should leave the paper undamaged.
Alternatively, supercritical fluid extraction using CO2, maybe
modified with methanol (but probably not necessary since the wax
isn't polar). This might be impractical for your circumstances.
Unfortunately, both of these methods might also remove or fade
previously-applied inks. I'm guessing that what you're doing similar
to a serigraphic process using a wax resist, except paper rather than
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| Helen F. Sturt |
| Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 1:42 pm |
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just a little suggestion, but the 'housewife's' method would probably be
to carefully press the page with a domestic iron - having an absorbent
layer between the iron and the paper... maybe paper towel or blotting
paper. So long as the iron isnt too hot the paper itself should be fine.
If dyes are left in the paper then maybe a careful application of a
solvent might work - using a similar blotting technique though without
the iron!
Helen
Dilettante wrote:
Quote: I am looking for a chemical or another means that will completely
remove wax that have been rubbed onto paper. The chemical should leave
no stain or residue because I will be brushing on coloured ink over
the previously waxed area. So the paper must be able to re-absorb
coloured inks
Dilettante |
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| Alexander Vasserman DDS., |
| Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2004 3:42 am |
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Orange solvent dissolves wax.
then you can use soapy water to remove the orange solvent residue.
"Edward Hennessey" <seesigline@nospam.org> wrote in message news:<YE0Lb.32359$IM3.7872@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>...
Quote: I was looking for such a method as well but my researches to date have not
found
any process or chemical solvent exists which will do the job and
leave the paper undamaged. What most solvents do that I've tried is smear
the colored wax that has been my focus, removing some of it but leaving a
telltale residue.
Steaming works satisfactorily with marked fabric but paper will not tolerate
the process. If you
have paper coated with clear wax, you might want to try an industrial heat
gun
or blow dryer being careful not to reach temperatures which would harm the
paper.
That is the next method on my list of experiments. Let us know if you have
positive
results.
Regards,
Edward Hennessey
"Dilettante" <hurry@myself.com> wrote in message
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I am looking for a chemical or another means that will completely
remove wax that have been rubbed onto paper. The chemical should leave
no stain or residue because I will be brushing on coloured ink over
the previously waxed area. So the paper must be able to re-absorb
coloured inks
Dilettante |
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