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flarkblark
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:28 pm
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Shipping containers are a clever idea for housing, either as a
part of a larger creation or as the dominant material. They are
really a wise choice since they are very cheap ($1500 each),
plentiful, strong, stackable, cuttable, weldable, portable,
insulateable, they can be raised off the ground, they can be
merged to form larger spaces, etc.

However as with any new idea, there will be opposition from
those who profit from the status quo and those who dislike
new and different thinking.

Here are some examples of projects that use containers.

Future Shack exterior:
http://www.archidose.org/Feb02/godsell1.jpg

Future Shack interior:
http://www.archidose.org/Feb02/020402b.html

Mobile Dwelling Unit:
http://www.uam.ucsb.edu/Media/lotek_mdu2.jpg

Container City exterior:
http://www.containercity.com/2001.html

A large house made of containers:
http://www.architectureandhygiene.com/12containerhouse.html

Primary school in Jamaica:
http://www.archinect.com/gpci/18.shtml

Dwell contest entry:
http://www.thedwellhome.com/images/image_jones_02.jpg

A school hostel made from containers:
http://users.lia.net/neweden/container.htm

An article and photos on shipping container homes:
http://www.escapeartist.com/OREQ4/Nomadic_Housing2000.html

And more:
http://container.50megs.com
Richard Kemp
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 3:09 am
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In article <ba7436c4.0309301928.3025ff38@posting.google.com>,
plinius@mail.com (flarkblark) wrote:

Quote:
Shipping containers are a clever idea for housing, either as a
part of a larger creation or as the dominant material. They are
really a wise choice since they are very cheap ($1500 each),
plentiful, strong, stackable, cuttable, weldable, portable,
insulateable, they can be raised off the ground, they can be
merged to form larger spaces, etc.

However as with any new idea, there will be opposition from
those who profit from the status quo and those who dislike
new and different thinking.

This is fairly standard practice in the third world, where cheap and
easy reliability outweigh comfort, and you can't trust the local
builders. However, they're really ugly. But good luck.

Rich

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Tim Worstall
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:24 am
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Richard Kemp <rk237_notospam_@cam.ac.uk> wrote in message news:<rk237_notospam_-27B293.10092801102003@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>...
Quote:
In article <ba7436c4.0309301928.3025ff38@posting.google.com>,
plinius@mail.com (flarkblark) wrote:

Shipping containers are a clever idea for housing, either as a
part of a larger creation or as the dominant material. They are
really a wise choice since they are very cheap ($1500 each),
plentiful, strong, stackable, cuttable, weldable, portable,
insulateable, they can be raised off the ground, they can be
merged to form larger spaces, etc.

However as with any new idea, there will be opposition from
those who profit from the status quo and those who dislike
new and different thinking.

This is fairly standard practice in the third world, where cheap and
easy reliability outweigh comfort, and you can't trust the local
builders. However, they're really ugly. But good luck.

Rich

It can be slightly annoying as well.
Normally when you ship something, you rent the container. However, in
those parts of the world where people make houses out of them, you
normally have to buy one to get the shipper to take it there. If it
actually comes back, then super for you.
So a side effect of using containers in the above manner is that all
things shipped to those places cost more.

Tim Worstall
Tom Walz
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 9:10 am
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construction offices and crew space on the new Tacoma Narrows Bridge

Tacoma News Tribune - couple weeks ago
flarkblark
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 11:34 am
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Quote:
It can be slightly annoying as well.
Normally when you ship something, you rent the container. However, in
those parts of the world where people make houses out of them, you
normally have to buy one to get the shipper to take it there. If it
actually comes back, then super for you.
So a side effect of using containers in the above manner is that all
things shipped to those places cost more.

That is not germaine to the discussion of using containers
in buildings in the West.
flarkblark
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 11:38 am
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Quote:
However, they're really ugly.

It's a matter of artistic ability. I have seen very attractive
container homes. The designer has to be able to make use of the
verticality inherent in the corrigation of the metal.

Not every person can do that well.

But I have seen many, many conventional homes that were equally
ugly. For instance, the homes with cheesy rock facades attached
to a wooden frame based home. Or aluminum siding. Or in the
Western US, the over-use of stucco to achieve a vaguely adobe
like look.
jbuch
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 12:51 pm
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flarkblark wrote:
Quote:
However, they're really ugly.


It's a matter of artistic ability. I have seen very attractive
container homes. The designer has to be able to make use of the
verticality inherent in the corrigation of the metal.

Not every person can do that well.

But I have seen many, many conventional homes that were equally
ugly. For instance, the homes with cheesy rock facades attached
to a wooden frame based home. Or aluminum siding. Or in the
Western US, the over-use of stucco to achieve a vaguely adobe
like look.

Do you have any links to really good looking homes built from shipping
containers?

Stick tothe positive side of your side of the discussion to win converts.

Harp on the negatives of the other side of the discussion if you want to
talk to other converts and try to prove how much of a "true believer"
you are.

JIm Buch

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Gordon Couger
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 3:59 pm
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"flarkblark" <plinius@mail.com> wrote in message
news:ba7436c4.0310010934.3ad5c9f9@posting.google.com...
Quote:
It can be slightly annoying as well.
Normally when you ship something, you rent the container. However, in
those parts of the world where people make houses out of them, you
normally have to buy one to get the shipper to take it there. If it
actually comes back, then super for you.
So a side effect of using containers in the above manner is that all
things shipped to those places cost more.

That is not germaine to the discussion of using containers
in buildings in the West.

There are plenty of surplus shipping container anywhere you go in the world.

Gordon
Mark Thorson
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:34 pm
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Gordon Couger wrote:

Quote:
There are plenty of surplus shipping container anywhere you go in the world.

Some are even floating in middle of the ocean.

Quoting from:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0071382275/104-9774336-2308718?v=glance&vi=reviews

On February 11, 2001, Ellen MacArthur completed
the Vendee Globe singlehanded nonstop
sailboat race around the planet, perhaps the most
grueling challenge in the world of sports, and
docked amid the 250,000 well-wishers who had
braved a winter night to welcome her back to
France. Alone and unsupported, she had spent
more than three months at sea and had beaten
everything the race could throw at her--storms,
icy seas, exhaustion, rigging failures, and, when she
was fighting for first place, a catastrophic collision
with a submerged shipping container that could
have cost her not just the lead but her life. But
Ellen had always known that the dream she was
chasing would demand her last ounce of fortitude.
To give any less would be to let down herself and
everyone who believed in her.

Quoting from:
http://old.cruisingworld.com/gps/2001/0205/

Whatever lies ahead, the resilient young Englishwoman
is now fully recovered after 36 hours spent making
repairs following Kingfisher's collision with a floating
shipping container, which tore off the port
daggerboard and sheared off the "crash-tip" on
the port rudder.
flarkblark
Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 9:39 am
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Quote:
Do you have any links to really good looking homes built from shipping
containers?

Yes, there are various projects listed here:
http://container.50megs.com
s
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 4:34 pm
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although not on a dwellings theme......

We were forced into using a new type of oil store at work. This was in place
of our existing building.
basically it was a converted shipping container supplied by
http://www.empteezy.co.uk/ibc.htm

Main reason was because it had a bunded floor and this was seen as a
positive step for storage of oils and greases.

The only problem is it gets too hot in summer and all the oil content now
seperates out of the greases.
also because it has a mesh floor with loads of barrels etc stored on it you
can't retrieve anything thats spilt or dropped
without emptying the whole damn container...

we now have more uncleaned up oil splillages than before...but hey, it's
contained!!
It was a really cr@p solution!!

SS
 
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