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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:51 am |
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The radiation from the sun, even in the dead of the winter, is
unusually intense this year for some reason; actually making a 20
degree day in some areas feel like it's in the 80's or 90's, whenever
the sun is fully out, this year. That's never happened before. What's
going on? Solar flares, diminishing ozone layer, or what? |
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| Sam Wormley |
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:01 am |
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whopkins@csd.uwm.edu wrote:
[quote:3c72a3570b]The radiation from the sun, even in the dead of the winter, is
unusually intense this year for some reason; actually making a 20
degree day in some areas feel like it's in the 80's or 90's, whenever
the sun is fully out, this year. That's never happened before. What's
going on? Solar flares, diminishing ozone layer, or what?
[/quote:3c72a3570b]
Solar output is within 0.1 percent of what it has been for millenia. |
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| Sam Wormley |
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:07 am |
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Sam Wormley wrote:
[quote:845c735c0a]whopkins@csd.uwm.edu wrote:
The radiation from the sun, even in the dead of the winter, is
unusually intense this year for some reason; actually making a 20
degree day in some areas feel like it's in the 80's or 90's, whenever
the sun is fully out, this year. That's never happened before. What's
going on? Solar flares, diminishing ozone layer, or what?
Solar output is within 0.1 percent of what it has been for millenia.
[/quote:845c735c0a]
See: http://www.lmsal.com/solarsoft/latest_events/
http://www.edu-observatory.org/eo/sun.html |
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| The Ghost In The Machine |
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:00 pm |
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In sci.physics, whopkins@csd.uwm.edu
<whopkins@csd.uwm.edu>
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on 5 Mar 2005 06:51:58 -0800
<1110034318.795357.66240@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>:
[quote:b92d295f43]The radiation from the sun, even in the dead of the winter, is
unusually intense this year for some reason; actually making a 20
degree day in some areas feel like it's in the 80's or 90's, whenever
the sun is fully out, this year. That's never happened before. What's
going on? Solar flares, diminishing ozone layer, or what?
[/quote:b92d295f43]
[1] Where are you?
[2] I would hope you're measuring in Fahrenheit. 20C is
fairly comfortable (68F). The highest temperature ever
recorded is about 48C. 90C is close to the temperature
of sea-level boiling water (100C). Human lobsters, anyone?
[3] Global warming is a mostly proven phenomenon, and the evidence
is fairly substantial that it's because of human activity.
However, the degree of warming is on the order of 0.5 - 1 C
(1-2F). While the effects are wide-ranging (mostly increases
in storm severity, rainfall, etc.) the temperature may
not be distinguishable from otherwise normal weather variability
to the casual observer. In some areas of the world (e.g.
eastern US) one might actually get colder, more severe winters,
with a snowfall increase. Then again, I'd have to look.
[4] I don't know what you mean by "feels like", but ozone is also
a factor, as it protects against UV radiation. It is possible
you're feeling pain and interpreting it as a temperature
increase, but the issue is so subjective it's hard to quantify.
--
#191, ewill3@earthlink.net
It's still legal to go .sigless. |
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| tj Frazir |
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 4:11 pm |
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It's 86 after a rain just after lunch.
I can tell te sun and deck heat is normal.
but im 8* S of the equator 156 E
sun is allmost strait up.
in june your sun will be the most strait up.
stait up if your in havana cuba june 21.
In dec 22 the strait down a wll sun is in reo de janeiro.
today its 8 deg south.
I have a calander with the angle evry day .
a sun dial with an x marking its motion evry few minuts will measure
the ferthest angle. |
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| Rene Tschaggelar |
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 5:21 pm |
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whopkins@csd.uwm.edu wrote:
[quote:534334d7be]The radiation from the sun, even in the dead of the winter, is
unusually intense this year for some reason; actually making a 20
degree day in some areas feel like it's in the 80's or 90's, whenever
the sun is fully out, this year. That's never happened before. What's
going on? Solar flares, diminishing ozone layer, or what?
[/quote:534334d7be]
Well, the snow reflects a lot. This makes the emitting area
much bigger. Provided you're close to snow.
Rene
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Ing.Buero R.Tschaggelar - http://www.ibrtses.com
& commercial newsgroups - http://www.talkto.net |
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:00 pm |
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George Jones wrote:
[quote:c8f13f5a88]At the end of winter/beginning of spring, people often don't realize
just how strong the radiation from the sun is.
[/quote:c8f13f5a88]
That has nothing to do with anything the question is pertaining to.
(1) they have ONLY taken place on *some* of the days the sun is fully
out, (2) this was also taking place *indoors*, (3) indoors or outdoors
on only certain days, (4) was ALSO seriously affecting another who was
walking with me, on each incident, simultaneously with the experiencing
of the effect, each time, to the point of collapse (within the first 30
seconds of exposure; causing serious dehydration within 3 minutes of
going outside and an extreme temperature rise on the order of 120
degrees on the outer body) (5) actually raised the temperature in
certain spots to close to 80 or 90, (6) coming straight through double
and triple layers of clothing, (7) caused extreme burning sensation
*inside* the body simultaneously with the collapse of the other -- on
each incident (and caused him to experience nausea and vomiting). The
incidents were one occasion of mid February, a second in late February,
and 2 others in recent days. |
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| Guest |
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:02 pm |
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John O'Flaherty wrote:
[quote:9eca852da9]When I want it to be warm, I cover it with thick pants, not shorts.
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The radiation was coming straight through triple layering, including
white. Snow has nothing to do with it, since it occured indoors as
well, near a window, at certain times, and in areas that don't have
snow.
I never wear shorts, and rarely short sleeves. Not even in the summer.
I'm conditioned to run 1/2 marathon in 90 degrees in double layering,
as I've done last summer. |
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| Guest |
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:07 pm |
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Sam Wormley wrote:
[quote:1f5dcbafe1]The radiation from the sun, even in the dead of the winter, is
unusually intense this year for some reason;
What's going on? Solar flares, diminishing ozone layer, or what?
Solar output is within 0.1 percent of what it has been for
millenia.
See: http://www.lmsal.com/solarsoft/latest_events/
http://www.edu-observatory.org/eo/sun.html
[/quote:1f5dcbafe1]
Large peak in solar activity in mid-February precisely corresponding to
the times of the first incidents. |
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| Mark Folsom |
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:54 am |
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<whopkins@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:1110034318.795357.66240@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
[quote:c745a9a20b]The radiation from the sun, even in the dead of the winter, is
unusually intense this year for some reason; actually making a 20
degree day in some areas feel like it's in the 80's or 90's, whenever
the sun is fully out, this year. That's never happened before. What's
going on? Solar flares, diminishing ozone layer, or what?
[/quote:c745a9a20b]
You're having hot flashes. |
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| Uncle Al |
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:25 pm |
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Mark Folsom wrote:
[quote:207d5179ca]
whopkins@csd.uwm.edu> wrote in message
news:1110034318.795357.66240@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
The radiation from the sun, even in the dead of the winter, is
unusually intense this year for some reason; actually making a 20
degree day in some areas feel like it's in the 80's or 90's, whenever
the sun is fully out, this year. That's never happened before. What's
going on? Solar flares, diminishing ozone layer, or what?
You're having hot flashes.
[/quote:207d5179ca]
When a guy reaches that time he either grows a beard or gets a
sportscar. The beard is overall a better tactic for its liquidity.
--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz.pdf |
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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:08 pm |
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whopkins@csd.uwm.edu wrote:
[quote:0138db0644]George Jones wrote:
At the end of winter/beginning of spring, people often don't
realize
just how strong the radiation from the sun is.
(4) was ALSO seriously affecting another who was walking with me,
on each incident, simultaneously with the experiencing of the
effect, each time, to the point of collapse (within the first
30 seconds of exposure; causing serious dehydration within 3
minutes of going outside and an extreme temperature rise on
the order of 120 degrees on the outer body)
[/quote:0138db0644]
and he died 13 days ago -- of melanoma. A number of dark spots have
also started to appear on my arms, back and hands. |
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| Guest |
Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:13 pm |
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Mark Folsom wrote:
[quote:2d19621e17]You're having hot flashes.
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I run a 55 second 400 meter 100 degrees indoors without discomfort. If
anyone else says they're getting uncomfortable due to radiation it
means nothing. When *I* say it, the DAMNED WORLD reverberates with my
echo, dammit! |
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