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Hundreds of SR tests - and all wrong.

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John Schoenfeld
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 12:55 pm
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Mike wrote:
[remove obsolete text]

Poor Androcles soaring through the arctic with his titanic intellect -
you still upset about that slaughtering I gave you on Yahoo Chess?


[quote:564d117e56]Loco cavesa hombre [remove obsolete text]
[/quote:564d117e56]
Instead of exceeding the boundaries of your competence, why don't you
attempt to learn the language that is which you invoke? It is "Loco de
la cavesa, hombre.", you abigail.


> Mike
 
John Schoenfeld
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:47 pm
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Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com wrote:
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This another one of your personalities, Androcles?
 
Androcles
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:11 pm
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"John Schoenfeld" <j.schoenfeld@programmer.net> wrote in message
news:1107366921.554343.287340@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
[quote:31f4681e8e]
Mike wrote:
[remove obsolete text]

Poor Androcles soaring through the arctic with his titanic intellect -
you still upset about that slaughtering I gave you on Yahoo Chess?


Loco cavesa hombre [remove obsolete text]

Instead of exceeding the boundaries of your competence, why don't you
attempt to learn the language that is which you invoke? It is "Loco de
la cavesa, hombre.", you abigail.
[/quote:31f4681e8e]

I never learned French.
What's it mean?

Androcles.
 
Nick
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 5:49 pm
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Eric Gisse wrote:
[quote:0d436559b4]Nick wrote:
Suppose some matter simply disappears, as in the mutual
annihilation

What about disappearing light?
It happens from an infinite gravitational redshift at the
event horizon.
Infinite redshift?
Light of infinite wavelength?
How large does it get before it disappears?

Energyless light predicted in Einstein shift?

Its the end of Black Hole's and there horizons.
But Its the begining of finite gravity.

I get the feeling you have deep philsophical issues with calculus'
concept of the limit. That is assuming, of course, that you have seen
calculus - which I doubt.

Once again Mitchell, gravity's strength is quite finite. The only
error
is in your understanding.
[/quote:0d436559b4]
It has an upper limit. It is not just finite Gisse.
You do not understand that.
 
Mike
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 6:02 pm
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John Schoenfeld wrote:
[quote:e1323eb71f]Mike wrote:
[remove obsolete text]

Poor Androcles soaring through the arctic with his titanic intellect
-
you still upset about that slaughtering I gave you on Yahoo Chess?


Loco cavesa hombre [remove obsolete text]

Instead of exceeding the boundaries of your competence, why don't you
attempt to learn the language that is which you invoke? It is "Loco
de
la cavesa, hombre.", you abigail.


Mike
[/quote:e1323eb71f]
Loco cavesa hombre Schoenfeld DE LAWS OF MOTION

Mike
 
Paul Colquhoun
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:00 pm
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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 12:12:51 GMT, Androcles <Androcles@MyPlace.org> wrote:
|
| "Paul Colquhoun" <postmaster@andor.dropbear.id.au> wrote in message
| news:slrnd00t87.l70.postmaster@andor.dropbear.id.au...
|> On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 04:51:54 GMT, Androcles <Androcles@MyPlace.org>
|> wrote:
|> |
|> | Since when were you interested in facts?
|> | "If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts." --Albert
|> Einstein
|>
|>
|> Care to give the source for this quote?
|
| Just google "Einstein quotes" if your comprehensive abilites extend to
| using a search engine. Otherwise, Einstein said it, but he didn't say
| "-- Albert Einstein" at the end.


Yes, several (but not all) of the quote pages I checked list that as
one of his quotable remarks. None that I checked (I didn't read all
of the estimated 34,000 pages that Google returned) give any source
for the quote.

Do you know when and where he said it, or did you just believe some
random web site?


--
Reverend Paul Colquhoun, ULC. http://andor.dropbear.id.au/~paulcol
Asking for technical help in newsgroups? Read this first:
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#intro
 
eleaticus
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:19 am
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"Arindam Banerjee" <adda1234@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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[quote:aed800191e]Actually, if all the scientists make the same basic mistake which I
pointed out relating to the Michelson Morley interferometry experiment
(mainly assuming implicitly the earth is not moving when actually it
is) then they are *all* wrong, no matter how many times they do the
experiment.
[/quote:aed800191e]
As a long-standing opponent of SR with thousands of flame posts directed at
me over the years by (as I often call them) True Believer SR-cult cretins,
let me say: the MMX (as it is called sometimes) EXPLICITLY assumes the earth
is moving. That's the whole point of the thing.

eleaticus
 
Eric Gisse
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:15 am
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eleaticus wrote:
[quote:477b7b2e6b]"Arindam Banerjee" <adda1234@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:890e65ea.0501311826.1b7893c6@posting.google.com...

Actually, if all the scientists make the same basic mistake which
I
pointed out relating to the Michelson Morley interferometry
experiment
(mainly assuming implicitly the earth is not moving when actually
it
is) then they are *all* wrong, no matter how many times they do
the
experiment.

As a long-standing opponent of SR with thousands of flame posts
directed at
me over the years by (as I often call them) True Believer SR-cult
cretins,
let me say: the MMX (as it is called sometimes) EXPLICITLY assumes
the earth
is moving. That's the whole point of the thing.

eleaticus
[/quote:477b7b2e6b]
So...the Earth isn't moving?
 
Androcles
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:50 am
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"eleaticus" <eleaticus@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:4T2Nd.32709$t67.28946@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
[quote:d7f2e4459b]
"Arindam Banerjee" <adda1234@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:890e65ea.0501311826.1b7893c6@posting.google.com...

Actually, if all the scientists make the same basic mistake which I
pointed out relating to the Michelson Morley interferometry
experiment
(mainly assuming implicitly the earth is not moving when actually
it
is) then they are *all* wrong, no matter how many times they do the
experiment.

As a long-standing opponent of SR with thousands of flame posts
directed at
me over the years by (as I often call them) True Believer SR-cult
cretins,
let me say: the MMX (as it is called sometimes) EXPLICITLY assumes the
earth
is moving. That's the whole point of the thing.

eleaticus
[/quote:d7f2e4459b]
"and yet in moves" - Galileo Galilei.
 
The Ghost In The Machine
Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 3:00 pm
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In sci.physics, eleaticus
<eleaticus@bellsouth.net>
wrote
on Sat, 5 Feb 2005 06:19:55 -0600
<4T2Nd.32709$t67.28946@bignews5.bellsouth.net>:
[quote:6f66ce4624]
"Arindam Banerjee" <adda1234@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:890e65ea.0501311826.1b7893c6@posting.google.com...

Actually, if all the scientists make the same basic mistake which I
pointed out relating to the Michelson Morley interferometry experiment
(mainly assuming implicitly the earth is not moving when actually it
is) then they are *all* wrong, no matter how many times they do the
experiment.

As a long-standing opponent of SR with thousands of flame posts directed at
me over the years by (as I often call them) True Believer SR-cult cretins,
let me say: the MMX (as it is called sometimes) EXPLICITLY assumes the earth
is moving. That's the whole point of the thing.

eleaticus

[/quote:6f66ce4624]
If the Earth is stationary at Jan 1st it will be moving
2 * 10^-4 c by July 1st, as a consequence of the Earth's
orbital motion. To postulate that the Earth is motionless
at both times of the year strains credulity.

Another hypothesis is that the MMX is moving vertically
through the aether (which could occur if, say, the Sun is
motionless with respect thereto and the experiment
performed at local sunrise on the Equator). The fix
for that is of course to repeat the experiment at
a different time of day and a different time of year.

If one uses 500 nm blue-green light and a 10 m lightpath,
the corrective factor for a motion of 10^-4 c would
be approximately 5 * 10^-8 * 10m = 1 wavelength,
which should be easily discernable visually by
looking through the interferometer.

No such shift has ever been found.

--
#191, ewill3@earthlink.net
It's still legal to go .sigless.
 
 
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