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Tom Hendricks...
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:15 am
 
We have evolved a basic NREM sleep temperature pattern that may be
much much more important than anyone knew.

This post is about my ideas of health problems due to body
temperature in NREM sleep.

Sleep seems to be the second half of a daily food digestion and
processing cycle. During the day we eat and begin digestion. During
sleep the body stops eating, and uses the food to repair and replenish
the body.

Background. Body temperature rises all day. Then begins to drop during
sleep. It reaches its low point a little before waking. There are two
phases of sleep NREM (Not REM sleep, or Deep Wave sleep) and REM sleep
(Rapid Eye Movement). They alternate during the sleep period with more
NREM at the start of sleep period, and less towards the end of sleep
period.

1. Body temperature drops about 2 degrees in sleep. For example body
temperature drops from a normal 98.5 to 96.5 degrees.

2. BUT body temperature is regulated during NREM sleep, not at REM.
For example there is shivering and sweating during NREM but not during
REM.
Therefore if there is a body temperature problem in sleep it is in
NREM sleep.

3. Newborn infants sleep in REM sleep. It takes about 6 months to
develop the NREM sleep. I suggest a pattern of NREM sleep develops
during this time. Note this is not before birth, but six months or so
after. Note this is also the time of breast feeding. This food-in
period, should be a major part of this NREM sleep pattern. I suggest
this NREM sleep temperature pattern is key to good health when it is
set right. But when this pattern is too low or too high it causes
specific sets of chronic problems.

4. This NREM body temperature in sleep, pattern; set in childhood, is
virtually impossible to change. If there is a problem in this sleep
pattern, it is made worse by puberty, and/or it is made worse by
outside trauma of any kind. But it is not CAUSED by those things. It
is caused because an unhealthy sleep pattern was set up in the early
months after birth.

5. Too HIGH NREM body temperature pattern, set up in infancy, has
these clue words.
Overweight.
Repressed and unresolved ANGER problems
Anger of not having enough food in, and too much waste out.
Wants to take in more, and hold in more.

6. Too LOW NREM body temperature pattern , set up in infancy, has
these clue words.
Underweight
Repressed and unresolved FEAR problems
Fear of having too much food in, and too little waste out.
Wants to block out more, and excrete out more.


For more on sleep and body temperature see 3.2 , and 3.5 illustration
- figure 9, at.
http://science.education.nih.gov/supplements/nih3/sleep/guide/info-sleep.htm
 
bobwilliams...
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:58 pm
 
Tom Hendricks wrote:
[quote]We have evolved a basic NREM sleep temperature pattern that may be
much much more important than anyone knew.

This post is about my ideas of health problems due to body
temperature in NREM sleep.

Sleep seems to be the second half of a daily food digestion and
processing cycle. During the day we eat and begin digestion. During
sleep the body stops eating, and uses the food to repair and replenish
the body.

Background. Body temperature rises all day. Then begins to drop during
sleep. It reaches its low point a little before waking. There are two
phases of sleep NREM (Not REM sleep, or Deep Wave sleep) and REM sleep
(Rapid Eye Movement). They alternate during the sleep period with more
NREM at the start of sleep period, and less towards the end of sleep
period.

1. Body temperature drops about 2 degrees in sleep. For example body
temperature drops from a normal 98.5 to 96.5 degrees.

2. BUT body temperature is regulated during NREM sleep, not at REM.
For example there is shivering and sweating during NREM but not during
REM.
Therefore if there is a body temperature problem in sleep it is in
NREM sleep.

3. Newborn infants sleep in REM sleep. It takes about 6 months to
develop the NREM sleep. I suggest a pattern of NREM sleep develops
during this time. Note this is not before birth, but six months or so
after. Note this is also the time of breast feeding. This food-in
period, should be a major part of this NREM sleep pattern. I suggest
this NREM sleep temperature pattern is key to good health when it is
set right. But when this pattern is too low or too high it causes
specific sets of chronic problems.

4. This NREM body temperature in sleep, pattern; set in childhood, is
virtually impossible to change. If there is a problem in this sleep
pattern, it is made worse by puberty, and/or it is made worse by
outside trauma of any kind. But it is not CAUSED by those things. It
is caused because an unhealthy sleep pattern was set up in the early
months after birth.

5. Too HIGH NREM body temperature pattern, set up in infancy, has
these clue words.
Overweight.
Repressed and unresolved ANGER problems
Anger of not having enough food in, and too much waste out.
Wants to take in more, and hold in more.

6. Too LOW NREM body temperature pattern , set up in infancy, has
these clue words.
Underweight
Repressed and unresolved FEAR problems
Fear of having too much food in, and too little waste out.
Wants to block out more, and excrete out more.


For more on sleep and body temperature see 3.2 , and 3.5 illustration
- figure 9, at.
http://science.education.nih.gov/supplements/nih3/sleep/guide/info-sleep.htm

Very interesting article.[/quote]
There's a lot more going on than most of us suspect.
And I imagine we are just scratching the surface at present.
Bob Williams
 
Tom Hendricks...
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:58 pm
 
On Sep 2, 1:15 pm, Tom Hendricks <tom-hendri... at (no spam) att.net> wrote:
[quote]We have evolved a basic NREM sleep temperature pattern that may be
much much more important than anyone knew.

This post  is about my ideas of health problems due to body
temperature in NREM sleep.

Sleep seems to be the second half of a daily food digestion and
processing cycle. During the day we eat and begin digestion. During
sleep the body stops eating, and uses the food to repair and replenish
the body.

Background. Body temperature rises all day. Then begins to drop during
sleep. It reaches its low point a little before waking. There are two
phases of sleep NREM (Not REM sleep, or Deep Wave sleep) and REM sleep
(Rapid Eye Movement). They alternate during the sleep period with more
NREM at the start of sleep period, and less towards the end of sleep
period.

1. Body temperature drops about 2 degrees in sleep. For example body
temperature drops from a normal 98.5 to 96.5 degrees.

2. BUT body temperature is regulated during NREM sleep, not at REM.
For example there is shivering and sweating during NREM but not during
REM.
Therefore if there is a body temperature problem in sleep it is in
NREM sleep.

3. Newborn infants sleep in REM sleep. It takes about 6 months to
develop the NREM sleep.  I suggest a pattern of NREM sleep develops
during this time. Note this is not before birth, but six months or so
after.  Note this is also the time of breast feeding. This food-in
period, should be a major part of this NREM sleep pattern. I suggest
this NREM sleep temperature pattern is key to good health when it is
set right.  But when this pattern is too low or too high it causes
specific sets of chronic problems.

4. This NREM body temperature in sleep, pattern; set in childhood, is
virtually impossible to change. If there is a problem in this sleep
pattern, it is made worse by puberty, and/or it is made worse by
outside trauma of any kind. But it is not CAUSED by those things. It
is caused because an unhealthy sleep pattern was set up in the early
months after birth.

5.  Too HIGH NREM body temperature pattern, set up in infancy, has
these clue words.
Overweight.
Repressed and unresolved  ANGER problems
Anger of not having enough food in, and too much waste out.
Wants to take in more, and hold in more.

6. Too LOW NREM body temperature pattern , set up in infancy, has
these clue words.
Underweight
Repressed and unresolved FEAR problems
Fear of having too much food in, and too little waste out.
Wants to block out more, and excrete out more.

For more on sleep and body temperature see 3.2 , and 3.5 illustration
- figure 9, at.http://science.education.nih.gov/supplements/nih3/sleep/guide/info-sl...
[/quote]
Here is an interesting study on sleep / flies/ and starvation.
It supports the idea that sleep and processing of food are related.
http://www.the-scientist.com/blog/display/57664/
 
Tom Hendricks...
Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:59 am
 
Studies

Why is Low Body Temperature Important? The body's enzymatic processes
slow over 10%, sometimes 20% per degree of temperature below optimum.
Slower chemical function, repair, and disposal of local and
environmental toxins puts the body below expected function. This can
cause many syndromes and symptoms, such as those listed to the right.

quote from http://www.mall-net.com/mcs/coldbody.html
-------------

The normal range of human body temperature varies due to an
individuals metabolism rate, the higher (faster) it is the higher the
normal body temperature or the slower the metabolic rate the lower
the
normal body temperature. Other factors that might affect the body
temperature of an individual may be the time of day or the part of
the
body in which the temperature is measured at. The body temperature is
lower in the morning, due to the rest the body received, and higher
at
night after a day of muscular activity and after food intake.

quote from http://hypertextbook.com/facts/LenaWong.shtml

------------------
There is a lot on sleep on the net - note the importance of temp from
this wikipedia article. Something I hadn't thought of was the narrow
range of enzymatic reactions. Slight change in temperature would
support some enzymatic reactions more than others.

"Core temperature, also called core body temperature, is the
operating
temperature of an organism, specifically in deep structures of the
body such as the liver, in comparison to temperatures of peripheral
tissues. Core temperature is normally maintained within a narrow
range
so that essential enzymatic reactions can occur. Significant core
temperature elevation (hyperthermia) or depression (hypothermia) that
is prolonged for more than a brief period of time is incompatible
with
human life."
 
Tom Hendricks...
Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:59 am
 
This Dutch study showed how temperature effects sleep.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18192289?dopt=Abstract
 
Tom Hendricks...
Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:59 am
 
The parasympathetic activity increases from stage 1 through to stage 4
of NREM sleep, and, in contrast to REM sleep, within each stage the
balance of parasympathetic to sympathetic activity remains stable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasympathetic_nervous_system

The parasympathetic system specifically is responsible for stimulation
of activities that occur when the body is at rest, including
salivation, lacrimation, urination, digestion and defecation. Its
action is described as being complementary to that of one of the other
main branches of the ANS, the sympathetic nervous system, which is
responsible for stimulating activities associated with the fight-or-
flight response. Because of this relationship, the action of the
parasympathetic nervous system is often described as "rest and
digest".
 
Tom Hendricks...
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:44 am
 
On Sep 9, 10:59 am, Tom Hendricks <tom-hendri... at (no spam) att.net> wrote:
[quote]The parasympathetic activity increases from stage 1 through to stage 4
of NREM sleep, and, in contrast to REM sleep, within each stage the
balance of parasympathetic to sympathetic activity remains stable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasympathetic_nervous_system

The parasympathetic system specifically is responsible for stimulation
of activities that occur when the body is at rest, including
salivation, lacrimation, urination, digestion and defecation. Its
action is described as being complementary to that of one of the other
main branches of the ANS, the sympathetic nervous system, which is
responsible for stimulating activities associated with the fight-or-
flight response. Because of this relationship, the action of the
parasympathetic nervous system is often described as "rest and
digest".
[/quote]
Note that this supports the idea that sleep is the 2nd half of a food
processing cycle.

wake - catabolic - sympathetic - fight or flight .

sleep - anabolic - parasympathetic - rest and digest.
 
Tom Hendricks...
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:44 am
 
On Sep 2, 1:15 pm, Tom Hendricks <tom-hendri... at (no spam) att.net> wrote:
[quote]We have evolved a basic NREM sleep temperature pattern that may be
much much more important than anyone knew.

This post  is about my ideas of health problems due to body
temperature in NREM sleep.

Sleep seems to be the second half of a daily food digestion and
processing cycle. During the day we eat and begin digestion. During
sleep the body stops eating, and uses the food to repair and replenish
the body.

Background. Body temperature rises all day. Then begins to drop during
sleep. It reaches its low point a little before waking. There are two
phases of sleep NREM (Not REM sleep, or Deep Wave sleep) and REM sleep
(Rapid Eye Movement). They alternate during the sleep period with more
NREM at the start of sleep period, and less towards the end of sleep
period.

1. Body temperature drops about 2 degrees in sleep. For example body
temperature drops from a normal 98.5 to 96.5 degrees.

2. BUT body temperature is regulated during NREM sleep, not at REM.
For example there is shivering and sweating during NREM but not during
REM.
Therefore if there is a body temperature problem in sleep it is in
NREM sleep.

3. Newborn infants sleep in REM sleep. It takes about 6 months to
develop the NREM sleep.  I suggest a pattern of NREM sleep develops
during this time. Note this is not before birth, but six months or so
after.  Note this is also the time of breast feeding. This food-in
period, should be a major part of this NREM sleep pattern. I suggest
this NREM sleep temperature pattern is key to good health when it is
set right.  But when this pattern is too low or too high it causes
specific sets of chronic problems.

4. This NREM body temperature in sleep, pattern; set in childhood, is
virtually impossible to change. If there is a problem in this sleep
pattern, it is made worse by puberty, and/or it is made worse by
outside trauma of any kind. But it is not CAUSED by those things. It
is caused because an unhealthy sleep pattern was set up in the early
months after birth.

5.  Too HIGH NREM body temperature pattern, set up in infancy, has
these clue words.
Overweight.
Repressed and unresolved  ANGER problems
Anger of not having enough food in, and too much waste out.
Wants to take in more, and hold in more.

6. Too LOW NREM body temperature pattern , set up in infancy, has
these clue words.
Underweight
Repressed and unresolved FEAR problems
Fear of having too much food in, and too little waste out.
Wants to block out more, and excrete out more.

For more on sleep and body temperature see 3.2 , and 3.5 illustration
- figure 9, at.http://science.education.nih.gov/supplements/nih3/sleep/guide/info-sl...
[/quote]
This study looks at breast feeding and how it relates to amount of
NREM and REM sleep.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1480450
 
Tom Hendricks...
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:44 am
 
Sleep - more clues to add to these other posts. This looks at
melatonin, breast milk levels of melatonin, NREM and melatonin , etc.

CLUES
Breast milk has more melatonin at night then during the day..
Melatonin helps control your sleep and wake cycles.
So night breast milk feedings help the child to sleep.
Overweight children often have less sleep and are often not breast
fed.
Melatonin is involved in the regulation of body weight, and may be
helpful in treating obesity
Children on average secrete more melatonin than adults. It decreases
with age.
Melatonin seems to be at its' highest from 2-6 months. AND, at 4
months NREM sleep begins to precede the first REM sleep.
Melatonin is released soon after it gets dark. The amount produced
then increases until about two to four AM, and then drops off again.
NREM sleep mostly happens early in the night and seems to be mostly
over by four AM when the level of melatonin drops off.
Melatonin has side effects of lower body temperature.
Laughter increases the levels of breast-milk melatonin.
NREM sleep temperature is lower than waking temperature and regulated.


SUMMARY
Putting it all together, II suggest that it seems plausible that

MELATONIN PUTS YOU TO SLEEP AND KEEPS YOU TO SLEEP TILL NREM SLEEP IS
OVER.
MELATONIN LEVELS MAY BE TOO HIGH IN UNDERWEIGHT AND TOO LOW IN
OVERWEIGHT CHILDREN.
SETTING UP A PATTERN OF MELATONIN AROUND THE AGE OF 4-6 MONTHS MAY BE
A KEY ASPECT OF HEALTH.
Underweight children get too much melatonin from breast milk, and have
a too low NREM temperature.
Overweight children get too little melatonin from not enough breast
milk, and have a too high NREM temperature.


sleep-patterns
I recently came across a study in the journal "Nutritional
Neuroscience" in which a group of researchers from Spain looked at the
levels of certain substances (nucleotides) in breast milk, which are
known to induce sleep. The researchers found that there was a definite
pattern to when their levels were higher and lower, and that those
known to induce sleep were, not surprisingly, higher in breast milk
produced during the evening and nighttime than in breast milk produced
during the day. In the paper (cited below), the authors also mention
previous studies demonstrating that breast milk levels of melatonin, a
hormone secreted prior to sleep onset, also vary in relation to the
time of day, with melatonin found in breast milk produced at night,
but undetectable in breast milk produced during the day.


http://www.webmd.com/sleep-disorders/tc/melatonin-overview
What is melatonin?
Melatonin is a hormone made by the pineal gland , a small gland in the
brain. Melatonin helps control your sleep and wake cycles. Very small
amounts of it are found in foods such as meats, grains, fruits, and
vegetables. You can also buy it as a supplement.
What does natural melatonin do in the body?
Your body has its own internal clock that controls your natural cycle
of sleeping and waking hours. In part, your body clock controls how
much melatonin your body makes. Normally, melatonin levels begin to
rise in the mid- to late evening, remain high for most of the night,
and then drop in the early morning hours.

Melatonin does have side effects. But they will go away when you stop
taking the supplement. Side effects include:
Sleepiness.
Changes in blood vessels that may affect blood flow.
Lower body temperature.

http://members.cox.net/jmhoward3/A%20New%20Theory%20of%20Sudden%20Infant%20Death%20Syndrome.htm
Note this is from James Michael Howard who has often commented in SBE

Keep in mind that the time of maximum SIDS is from 2 months to six
months; this is the time when melatonin starts to really increase and
reduce REM sleep. Note that at 4 months, the adult pattern of
significant increases in non-REM sleep begins to precede the first REM
sleep. My work suggests that this is time when melatonin is exerting
its most profound depression of DHEA, therefore, this should be the
most deadly time for infants.

http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/brain_and_nervous_system/medicines/100005200.html

Melatonin is a hormone made by the pineal gland, a structure in the
brain. It is normally released soon after it starts to get dark. The
amount produced then increases until about two to four am, and then
drops off again. Melatonin is linked with the control of circadian
rhythms and promoting sleep. It works by acting on melatonin receptors
in the brain.
 
Tom Hendricks...
Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2010 5:44 am
 
Most psychology experts try to find the root of anxiety, anger, or
behavioral problems, in thinking patterns. Supposedly these are
responses to negative past experiences in the environment.

I think the true source for many of these problems, is not outside the
body but the sleep patterns within the body. Specifically the sleep
pattern set up in NREM sleep during breast feeding around the 4-6
month time period.

My suggestion is that each day is a cycle of food in and waste out in
3 phases.

Phase one: During waking hours we take in food.
Phase two: During sleep we stop eating, and begin the 2nd part of the
daily cycle - rest and digest, This utilizes the food we've taken in.
(mostly NREM sleep).
Phase three: At the end of the sleep cycle (mostly REM sleep) the
body prepares waste out .


During infancy (around 4-6 months) a pattern seems to be set up in
NREM sleep.
The pattern is usually healthy. But if it is set up with too little
breast milk or too much breast milk, there are set problems that last
through life.

Too little breast milk.
Response is hunger which leads to ANGER.
Repressed subconscious anger problems as an adult.
What breast milk is received is held in in childhood.
Leads to too little food in, too little waste out.
Sleep pattern is too high temperature in sleep.
Life pattern is one that is always hungry for more and holds in more.
Through life too much food is taken in - too little waste is excreted
out
Overweight problems.
Solution: Lower sleep temperature, and resolve repressed anger.

Too much breast milk.
Response is too full and can't excrete out excess which leads to
FEAR.
Repressed subconscious fear problems as an adult.
Excess breast milk is blocked out or excreted out.
Leads to too much food in, too much waste out.
Sleep pattern is too low temperature in sleep.
Life pattern is one that is always fear of being too full, and too
much waste is excreted out.
Through life too little food is taken in - too much waste is excreted
out.
Underweight problems
Solution: Raise sleep temperature and resolve repressed fear.
 
Darwin123...
Posted: Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:40 am
 
On Sep 13, 11:44 am, Tom Hendricks <tom-hendri... at (no spam) att.net> wrote:

[quote]wake - catabolic - sympathetic - fight or flight .

sleep - anabolic - parasympathetic - rest and digest.
How did you make these correlations? By means of your magic[/quote]
powers?
Anabolic can be fight or flight, and catabolic can be rest.
Fighting or running involves breakdown of molecules, after all. When
one runs, the respiration processes speed up which means that
molecules are broken down. Hence, fight or flight is most likely
anabolic. When one rests, one fixes damaged nerve endings and building
up molecules. So by your assumptions, rest would be catabolic. I
suppose "digest" has to be anabolic, since it involves breaking down
molecules. Except, one has to break down the molecules before one
builds it up.
There is no objective criteria for associating any one process
with anabolic or catabolic. Your correlations appear to be based on
your magic powers.
 
Tom Hendricks...
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:01 am
 
[quote]From wikipedia
[/quote]

It has been pointed out that, if sleep were not essential, one would
expect to find:

Animal species that do not sleep at all
Animals that do not need recovery sleep when they stay awake longer
than usual
Animals that suffer no serious consequences as a result of lack of
sleep
Outside of a few basal animals that have no brain or a very simple
brain, no animals have been found to date that satisfy any of these
criteria
 
Tom Hendricks...
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:01 am
 
This article is on baby sleep patterns
http://www.parentingscience.com/baby-sleep-patterns.html
Also note the link to the page of clinical studies.

What I think is important is that at or around about 6 months after
birth, all the following develop

1. NREM sleep
2. Start of the switch to solids
3. Teething
4. Begins strong attachments, and separation anxiety.

All these point to the development of a pattern of a daily digestion
cycle (see above).
 
Tom Hendricks...
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:48 am
 
My sleep ideas* have suggested that anger and fear are emotions that
evolved out of the most basic of biological processes the food in and
waste out, digestion process.

Anger - the emotion evolved to consciously help get more food in.
Anger/fight
Fear - the emotion evolved to consciously get rid of excess waste.
Fear/flight

But which if either emotion evolved first. I would suggest it was
anger. Living things have more problems getting enough nurturing
coming in, then they do of having too much waste to excrete out.

*Sleep is the 2nd half of a daily digestion cycle. AND a pattern of
food in and waste out is set up after birth when the child switches to
solids.
 
Tom Hendricks...
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:48 am
 
Why would we evolve a Sleep/Food Pattern, not before birth, but when
the infant switches from breast milk to solids, sometime after 6
months? Secondly, why would that pattern be so important that it
controls so much of our lives and health, and is almost impossible to
change? (See other posts)

Most hominids, I would think, would have a limited diet. Some dietary
requirements may not always be available, or available in limited
supplies. The after birth sleep/digestion pattern set up when the
child switches from breast milk to solids - solids being the food
available in that environment - would help compensate that infant and
help him adapt to that specific environment.

There would most often be a case of too little food in, or too little
of a necessary nurturing food in. The child would develop a sleep
pattern that would compensate by setting up a subconscious desire to
get and eat more of the neglected nutrients.

In the rare cases where there was too much food, it would set up a
sleep/digestion pattern that would reduce the desire for that excess.
 
 
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