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| Bret Cahill... |
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Similar phraseology appears in an unrelated quote from a Georgia (USA)
writer or orator dated after Stalin's death.
It ain't Stalin so once again rightarded dupes have swallowed, hook,
line and sinker, some bottom fishing put out by medical insurance
other corp. shills, probably after Obama was elected.
Bret Cahill |
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| Bret Cahill... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:03 pm |
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[quote]Similar phraseology appears in an unrelated quote from a Georgia (USA)
writer or orator dated after Stalin's death.
It ain't Stalin so once again rightarded dupes have swallowed, hook,
line and sinker, some bottom fishing put out by medical insurance
other corp. shills, probably after Obama was elected.
It isn't so much medicine,
[/quote]
As rightards getting duped by another bogus quote.
I searched some more and it was previously attributed to Marx.
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| Neolibertarian... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:58 pm |
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In article
<3c91d609-a791-47d9-ab72-7314bbd7d469 at (no spam) h40g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Bret Cahill <BretCahill at (no spam) peoplepc.com> wrote:
[quote]Similar phraseology appears in an unrelated quote from a Georgia (USA)
writer or orator dated after Stalin's death.
It ain't Stalin so once again rightarded dupes have swallowed, hook,
line and sinker, some bottom fishing put out by medical insurance
other corp. shills, probably after Obama was elected.
[/quote]
It isn't so much medicine, as it is in giving up managing your own
affairs. That way lies tyranny.
Health insurance is only a part of that, of course.
"It really is difficult to imagine how a people who have entirely given
up managing their own affairs could make a wise choice of those who are
to do that for them. One should never expect a liberal, energetic, and
wise government to originate in the votes of a people of servants."
---Alexis de Tocqueville
--
Neolibertarian
"I concluded that, unhappily, I'd been born into a world
dominated by a rampaging monster called 'law' that was both
all-powerful and all-stupid."
---Fred Hoyle |
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| Rod Speed... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:19 pm |
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Neolibertarian wrote
[quote]Bret Cahill <BretCahill at (no spam) peoplepc.com> wrote
Similar phraseology appears in an unrelated quote from
a Georgia (USA) writer or orator dated after Stalin's death.
It ain't Stalin so once again rightarded dupes have swallowed,
hook, line and sinker, some bottom fishing put out by medical
insurance other corp. shills, probably after Obama was elected.
It isn't so much medicine, as it is in giving up managing your own affairs.
[/quote]
No one is proposing anything even remotely resembling anything like that.
Whats actually being discussed is how serious medical problems are paid for.
[quote]That way lies tyranny.
[/quote]
Not in a decent democracy it aint. Those have real checks
and balances that ensure that there is no tyranny.
[quote]Health insurance is only a part of that, of course.
[/quote]
It has absolutely NOTHING to do wtih typranny.
[quote]"It really is difficult to imagine how a people who
have entirely given up managing their own affairs
[/quote]
Only the dregs ever do anything like that.
[quote]could make a wise choice of those who are to do that for
them. One should never expect a liberal, energetic, and wise
government to originate in the votes of a people of servants."
---Alexis de Tocqueville
[/quote]
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| zzbunker... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:37 pm |
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On Nov 4, 8:53 pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah... at (no spam) peoplepc.com> wrote:
[quote]Similar phraseology appears in an unrelated quote from a Georgia (USA)
writer or orator dated after Stalin's death.
[/quote]
Morons like Republicans don;t even knew anything about roads
other than other than coal mines, so the people building cruise
missiles,
drones, uavs, self-replicating machines, self-assembling robots,
phalanx,
gps, and post 19th century gas turbine engines don't even give a
shit what
they think about medicine.
[quote]
It ain't Stalin so once again rightarded dupes have swallowed, hook,
line and sinker, some bottom fishing put out by medical insurance
other corp. shills, probably after Obama was elected.
Bret Cahill[/quote] |
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| Neolibertarian... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:22 pm |
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In article <7lf226F3c7ccrU1 at (no spam) mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Neolibertarian wrote
Bret Cahill <BretCahill at (no spam) peoplepc.com> wrote
Similar phraseology appears in an unrelated quote from
a Georgia (USA) writer or orator dated after Stalin's death.
It ain't Stalin so once again rightarded dupes have swallowed,
hook, line and sinker, some bottom fishing put out by medical
insurance other corp. shills, probably after Obama was elected.
It isn't so much medicine, as it is in giving up managing your own affairs.
No one is proposing anything even remotely resembling anything like that.
[/quote]
Of course they are, silly. And those same proposers are counting on you
stepping in here to deny it.
Congrats.
Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid weren't supposed to be tyranny,
either.
But there's really no way around it. Once you become a dependent, that's
it.
It's just like living at home as or after you come of age. You hear your
dad say "as long as I'm paying this or that, you're gonna do as I
say...yada yada yada" one too many times, and out the door you go.
Otherwise, you'll be there for the rest of your life.
[quote]
Whats actually being discussed is how serious medical problems are paid for.
[/quote]
Kid, the way the vast majority of Adult Americans pay for their "serious
medical problems" is my managing our own affairs.
It's part of the definition of being an adult.
If you want bureaucrats in Washington managing your affairs for you,
you're no longer and adult, and you're no longer free.
You'll do what the bureaucrats tell you to do.
[quote]
That way lies tyranny.
Not in a decent democracy it aint. Those have real checks
and balances that ensure that there is no tyranny.
[/quote]
Democracy isn't a safeguard against anything, dummy. Least of all
tyranny.
The only "checks and balances" in your government are found in the
Constitution.
Your leaders, puppetmasters, and criminal friends are ignoring your
Constitution, like it didn't even exist.
Without your Constitution, your only "safeguards" are in electing the
right people.
They're counting on that even more than they're counting on you jumping
in here to defend their grand larceny.
[quote]
Health insurance is only a part of that, of course.
It has absolutely NOTHING to do wtih typranny.
[/quote]
Maybe not typranny.
[quote]
"It really is difficult to imagine how a people who
have entirely given up managing their own affairs
Only the dregs ever do anything like that.
[/quote]
Whatever. You're the one defending the dregs.
We assume that's because you think there's something in it for you.
[quote]
could make a wise choice of those who are to do that for
them. One should never expect a liberal, energetic, and wise
government to originate in the votes of a people of servants."
---Alexis de Tocqueville
You wouldnt know what a real servant was if one bit you on your lard arse.
[/quote]
My servant bites me in the ass, and he's fired.
--
Neolibertarian
"I concluded that, unhappily, I'd been born into a world
dominated by a rampaging monster called 'law' that was both
all-powerful and all-stupid."
---Fred Hoyle |
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| Rod Speed... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:36 pm |
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Neolibertarian wrote
[quote]Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote
Neolibertarian wrote
Bret Cahill <BretCahill at (no spam) peoplepc.com> wrote
Similar phraseology appears in an unrelated quote from
a Georgia (USA) writer or orator dated after Stalin's death.
It ain't Stalin so once again rightarded dupes have swallowed,
hook, line and sinker, some bottom fishing put out by medical
insurance other corp. shills, probably after Obama was elected.
It isn't so much medicine, as it is in giving up managing your own affairs.
No one is proposing anything even remotely resembling anything like that.
Of course they are, silly.
[/quote]
Easy to claim. Have fun actually substantiating that stupid claim.
[quote]And those same proposers are counting on you stepping in here to deny it.
Congrats.
[/quote]
Wota terminal fuckwit.
[quote]Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid weren't supposed to be tyranny, either.
[/quote]
You wouldnt know what real tyranny was if it bit you on your lard arse, child.
[quote]But there's really no way around it. Once you become a dependent, that's it.
[/quote]
No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to become dependant on any of those.
You are always welcome to ignore them all completely and make your own provision for what they cover.
[quote]It's just like living at home as or after you come of age.
[/quote]
Nope, nothing like.
[quote]You hear your dad say "as long as I'm paying this or that, you're gonna do
as I say...yada yada yada" one too many times, and out the door you go.
[/quote]
Only fools say anything like that.
[quote]Otherwise, you'll be there for the rest of your life.
[/quote]
Mindlessly silly.
[quote]Whats actually being discussed is how serious medical problems are paid for.
Kid, the way the vast majority of Adult Americans pay for their
"serious medical problems" is my managing our own affairs.
[/quote]
Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasyland, child.
The absolute vast bulk of them use medicare and health insurance.
[quote]It's part of the definition of being an adult.
[/quote]
Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasyland, child.
[quote]If you want bureaucrats in Washington managing your affairs for you,
[/quote]
They dont do that when they pay the bills for your serious medical problem, fuckwit child.
[quote]you're no longer and adult, and you're no longer free.
[/quote]
Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasyland, child.
[quote]You'll do what the bureaucrats tell you to do.
[/quote]
Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasyland, child.
[quote]That way lies tyranny.
Not in a decent democracy it aint. Those have real checks
and balances that ensure that there is no tyranny.
Democracy isn't a safeguard against anything, dummy. Least of all tyranny.
[/quote]
Wrong, as always.
[quote]The only "checks and balances" in your government are found in the Constitution.
Your leaders, puppetmasters, and criminal friends
are ignoring your Constitution, like it didn't even exist.
[/quote]
Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasyland, child.
[quote]Without your Constitution, your only "safeguards" are in electing the right people.
[/quote]
Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasyland, child.
Even when the fool shrub was elected, he still went quietly when his two terms were up.
There might just be a reason why he did, fuckwit child.
[quote]They're counting on that even more than they're counting
on you jumping in here to defend their grand larceny.
[/quote]
Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasyland, child.
[quote]Health insurance is only a part of that, of course.
It has absolutely NOTHING to do wtih typranny.
Maybe not typranny.
[/quote]
Pathetic.
[quote]"It really is difficult to imagine how a people who
have entirely given up managing their own affairs
Only the dregs ever do anything like that.
Whatever. You're the one defending the dregs.
[/quote]
Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasyland, child.
[quote]We assume that's because you think there's something in it for you.
[/quote]
Just how many of your are there between those ears, fuckwit child ?
[quote]could make a wise choice of those who are to do that for
them. One should never expect a liberal, energetic, and wise
government to originate in the votes of a people of servants."
---Alexis de Tocqueville
You wouldnt know what a real servant was if one bit you on your lard arse.
My servant bites me in the ass, and he's fired.
[/quote]
Only in your pathetic little pig ignorant fantasyland, child. |
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| Neolibertarian... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:41 pm |
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In article <7lhgcpF3dkqsuU1 at (no spam) mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Neolibertarian wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote
Neolibertarian wrote
Bret Cahill <BretCahill at (no spam) peoplepc.com> wrote
Similar phraseology appears in an unrelated quote from
a Georgia (USA) writer or orator dated after Stalin's death.
It ain't Stalin so once again rightarded dupes have swallowed,
hook, line and sinker, some bottom fishing put out by medical
insurance other corp. shills, probably after Obama was elected.
It isn't so much medicine, as it is in giving up managing your own
affairs.
No one is proposing anything even remotely resembling anything like that.
Of course they are, silly.
Easy to claim. Have fun actually substantiating that stupid claim.
[/quote]
It's not a secret conspiracy, dummy.
They've been telling you all along what they want, and what they want is
an end to your private health insurance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk&feature=player_embedded#
Once you're dependent on the government for your medicine and medical
care, you're no longer free.
There's no constitutional basis for a government-run health insurance
provider. Such an institution is against the letter and intent of the
Constitution.
Not that you care...now.
Prolly because you never really had a Constitution in the first place.
--
Neolibertarian
"I concluded that, unhappily, I'd been born into a world
dominated by a rampaging monster called 'law' that was both
all-powerful and all-stupid."
---Fred Hoyle |
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| Rod Speed... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:09 pm |
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Neolibertarian wrote
[quote]Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote
Neolibertarian wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote
Neolibertarian wrote
Bret Cahill <BretCahill at (no spam) peoplepc.com> wrote
Similar phraseology appears in an unrelated quote from
a Georgia (USA) writer or orator dated after Stalin's death.
It ain't Stalin so once again rightarded dupes have swallowed,
hook, line and sinker, some bottom fishing put out by medical
insurance other corp. shills, probably after Obama was elected.
It isn't so much medicine, as it is in giving up managing your own affairs.
No one is proposing anything even remotely resembling anything like that.
Of course they are, silly.
Easy to claim. Have fun actually substantiating that stupid claim.
It's not a secret conspiracy, dummy.
[/quote]
Yep, its just your silly little pig ignorant fantasy.
[quote]They've been telling you all along what they want, and
what they want is an end to your private health insurance.
[/quote]
You're lying now. They have ACTUALLY said that if you are happy with your current
arrangements, you are welcome to continue with those for as long as you like.
[quote]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk&feature=player_embedded#
[/quote]
Flagrantly dishonest bleeding chunk selective quoting of a collection of fools that
dont even get any say on what gets thru congress, you silly little pathological liar.
[quote]Once you're dependent on the government for your medicine and medical care, you're no longer free.
[/quote]
No one is who doesnt want to be, fuckwit.
[quote]There's no constitutional basis for a government-run health insurance provider.
[/quote]
There's no constitutional basis for a standing army either. Its constitutional ANYWAY.
[quote]Such an institution is against the letter and intent of the Constitution.
[/quote]
Another bare faced lie. |
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| Michael Coburn... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:30 pm |
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:41:59 -0600, Neolibertarian wrote:
[quote]In article <7lhgcpF3dkqsuU1 at (no spam) mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Neolibertarian wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote
Neolibertarian wrote
Bret Cahill <BretCahill at (no spam) peoplepc.com> wrote
Similar phraseology appears in an unrelated quote from a Georgia
(USA) writer or orator dated after Stalin's death.
It ain't Stalin so once again rightarded dupes have swallowed,
hook, line and sinker, some bottom fishing put out by medical
insurance other corp. shills, probably after Obama was elected.
It isn't so much medicine, as it is in giving up managing your own
affairs.
No one is proposing anything even remotely resembling anything like
that.
Of course they are, silly.
Easy to claim. Have fun actually substantiating that stupid claim.
It's not a secret conspiracy, dummy.
They've been telling you all along what they want, and what they want is
an end to your private health insurance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk&feature=player_embedded#
Once you're dependent on the government for your medicine and medical
care, you're no longer free.
[/quote]
Once you are dependent on medical care you are no longer free. Most of
the sane people in the world have come to the _CORRECT_ conclusion that
government HEALTH INSURANCE systems or very closely regulated private
systems far outperform the "free market" private sector as regards cost
and effectiveness. But these REALITIES make no difference to the
rightarded religious nut cases.
<<<<<<<<<<< further stupidity deleted >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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| lorad... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:01 pm |
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On Nov 4, 5:53 pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah... at (no spam) peoplepc.com> wrote:
[quote]Similar phraseology appears in an unrelated quote from a Georgia (USA)
writer or orator dated after Stalin's death.
It ain't Stalin so once again rightarded dupes have swallowed, hook,
line and sinker, some bottom fishing put out by medical insurance
other corp. shills, probably after Obama was elected.
Bret Cahill
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Thanks for the backgrounder..
I was trying to figure out what the nwo lackeys were trying to lie
about. |
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| Bret Cahill... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 8:08 am |
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[quote]Similar phraseology appears in an unrelated quote from a Georgia (USA)
writer or orator dated after Stalin's death.
[/quote]
That should be "after Lenin's death." The winger dingers are
currently attributing it to Lenin.
A few years ago they were attributing it to Marx.
Maybe Lenin sounds scarier than Marx.
[quote]It ain't Stalin so once again rightarded dupes have swallowed, hook,
line and sinker, some bottom fishing put out by medical insurance
other corp. shills, probably after Obama was elected.
Thanks for the backgrounder..
I was trying to figure out what the nwo lackeys were trying to lie
about.
[/quote]
After the OP I found a good discussion when it was being attributed to
Marx.
Someone scholarly type pointed out that Marx would have no reason to
say that since Marxist theory isn't about sneaking the camel's nose
under the tent. The same would hold for Lenin. Keyword search
Lenin's work for a few minutes and you'll quickly realize that Lenin's
big thingy was adapting Marxism to Russian peasants.
The flowery "keystone/arch" phraseology isn't Russian but early 20th
Century Southern low brow -- today's rightargeted audience.
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| Neolibertarian... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:48 am |
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In article <hd2bi222fnk at (no spam) news6.newsguy.com>,
Michael Coburn <mikcob at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
[quote]On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:41:59 -0600, Neolibertarian wrote:
In article <7lhgcpF3dkqsuU1 at (no spam) mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Neolibertarian wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote
Neolibertarian wrote
Bret Cahill <BretCahill at (no spam) peoplepc.com> wrote
Similar phraseology appears in an unrelated quote from a Georgia
(USA) writer or orator dated after Stalin's death.
It ain't Stalin so once again rightarded dupes have swallowed,
hook, line and sinker, some bottom fishing put out by medical
insurance other corp. shills, probably after Obama was elected.
It isn't so much medicine, as it is in giving up managing your own
affairs.
No one is proposing anything even remotely resembling anything like
that.
Of course they are, silly.
Easy to claim. Have fun actually substantiating that stupid claim.
It's not a secret conspiracy, dummy.
They've been telling you all along what they want, and what they want is
an end to your private health insurance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk&feature=player_embedded#
Once you're dependent on the government for your medicine and medical
care, you're no longer free.
Once you are dependent on medical care you are no longer free. Most of
the sane people in the world have come to the _CORRECT_ conclusion that
government HEALTH INSURANCE systems or very closely regulated private
systems
[/quote]
In the United States, all health insurance "systems" are closely
regulated. This whole debate surrounds the concept that they are neither
efficient, effective, fair, nor "cost effective."
[quote]far outperform the "free market" private sector as regards cost
and effectiveness. But these REALITIES make no difference to the
rightarded religious nut cases.
[/quote]
Those aren't realities.
Please cite the government system that "out-performs" the private sector
in cost and effectiveness. You needn't limit yourself to National Health
Services.
I'd be very interested in your definitions, examples, and evidence.
--
Neolibertarian
"I concluded that, unhappily, I'd been born into a world
dominated by a rampaging monster called 'law' that was both
all-powerful and all-stupid."
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| Neolibertarian... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:01 am |
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In article <7ljoleF3clnrmU1 at (no spam) mid.individual.net>,
"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Neolibertarian wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote
Neolibertarian wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote
Neolibertarian wrote
Bret Cahill <BretCahill at (no spam) peoplepc.com> wrote
Similar phraseology appears in an unrelated quote from
a Georgia (USA) writer or orator dated after Stalin's death.
It ain't Stalin so once again rightarded dupes have swallowed,
hook, line and sinker, some bottom fishing put out by medical
insurance other corp. shills, probably after Obama was elected.
It isn't so much medicine, as it is in giving up managing your own
affairs.
No one is proposing anything even remotely resembling anything like
that.
Of course they are, silly.
Easy to claim. Have fun actually substantiating that stupid claim.
It's not a secret conspiracy, dummy.
Yep, its just your silly little pig ignorant fantasy.
They've been telling you all along what they want, and
what they want is an end to your private health insurance.
You're lying now.
[/quote]
The link was provided to the contrary statements.
I can also show you where this Administration wasn't planing on honoring
the "no new taxes on 95% of Americans" pledge, even as their candidate
claimed it over and over and over again.
He knew it was a lie, and he knew that almost every voter who heard him
knew it was a lie. He knew there was a certain percentage of voters who
wouldn't care it was a lie (you for instance?)--and a small percentage
that would actually believe him.
The same is true for many of Barack Obama's ludicrous claims, now long
forgotten.
In other words, do you seriously claim Obama actually believes
Jerusalem must be both the capital of Israel, and that it must be
undivided?
Heh.
[quote]
There's no constitutional basis for a government-run health insurance
provider.
There's no constitutional basis for a standing army either. Its
constitutional ANYWAY.
[/quote]
Deficit spending for a standing army is unconstitutional, of course.
At least in the absence of a Congressional declaration of war, or a
Congressional grant of war powers.
--
Neolibertarian
"I concluded that, unhappily, I'd been born into a world
dominated by a rampaging monster called 'law' that was both
all-powerful and all-stupid."
---Fred Hoyle |
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| Rod Speed... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:20 pm |
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Neolibertarian wrote
[quote]Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote
Neolibertarian wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote
Neolibertarian wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote
Neolibertarian wrote
Bret Cahill <BretCahill at (no spam) peoplepc.com> wrote
Similar phraseology appears in an unrelated quote from
a Georgia (USA) writer or orator dated after Stalin's death.
It ain't Stalin so once again rightarded dupes have swallowed,
hook, line and sinker, some bottom fishing put out by medical
insurance other corp. shills, probably after Obama was elected.
It isn't so much medicine, as it is in giving up managing your own affairs.
No one is proposing anything even remotely resembling anything like that.
Of course they are, silly.
Easy to claim. Have fun actually substantiating that stupid claim.
It's not a secret conspiracy, dummy.
Yep, its just your silly little pig ignorant fantasy.
They've been telling you all along what they want, and
what they want is an end to your private health insurance.
You're lying now.
The link was provided to the contrary statements.
[/quote]
Pity it was just a complete pack of lies and very selective editing of what
fools that get absolutely no say whatever on what will happen anyway.
[quote]I can also show you where this Administration wasn't planing on
honoring the "no new taxes on 95% of Americans" pledge, even
as their candidate claimed it over and over and over again.
[/quote]
Lying, as always.
[quote]He knew it was a lie, and he knew that almost
every voter who heard him knew it was a lie.
[/quote]
Lying, as always.
[quote]He knew there was a certain percentage of voters who wouldn't care it was a
lie (you for instance?)--and a small percentage that would actually believe him.
[/quote]
Lying, as always.
[quote]The same is true for many of Barack Obama's ludicrous claims, now long forgotten.
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Easy to claim. Pity you cant actually substantiate that lie.
[quote]In other words, do you seriously claim Obama actually believes Jerusalem
must be both the capital of Israel, and that it must be undivided?
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He has always been, and always will be, completely and utterly irrelevant on that.
He gets no say what so ever on that, cretin.
[quote]There's no constitutional basis for a government-run health insurance provider.
There's no constitutional basis for a standing army either. Its constitutional ANYWAY.
Deficit spending for a standing army is unconstitutional, of course.
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Another lie.
[quote]At least in the absence of a Congressional declaration
of war, or a Congressional grant of war powers.
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There's no constitutional basis for a standing army either. Its constitutional ANYWAY. |
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