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| Jack Linthicum... |
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NBC: 7 dead, 12 injured in Fort Hood shooting
No word from the military base whether the victims are military or
civilians
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BREAKING NEWS
msnbc.com news services
updated 4 minutes ago
At least seven people are dead and 12 wounded in a shooting at Fort
Hood in Texas, the base's public affairs office told NBC News on
Thursday.
The official would not give his name nor additional details. It was
unknown whether victims are soldiers or civilians. One gunman was
reportedly in custody and another was on the loose, NBC News said. A
third shooter may be involved, according to NBC News affiliate KCEN.
KCEN in Waco reported that the second suspect may be holed up in a
building on the post.
Story continues below ↓advertisement | your ad here
The base was reportedly on lockdown. Two nearby school districts were
also being locked down.
Fort Hood is adjacent to Killeen, and 60 miles northeast of Austin.
The sprawling complex is home to at least 4,929 active duty officers
and 45,414 enlisted. Civilian employees total nearly 9,000.
The base has seen other violence in recent years. In September 2008, a
21-year-old 1st Cavalry Division soldier shot his lieutenant to death
and then killed himself. Spc. Jody Michael Wirawan of Eagle River,
Alaska. shot himself to death after shooting 1st Lt. Robert Bartlett
Fletcher, 24, of Jensen Beach, Fla. to death. |
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| Jack Linthicum... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:03 pm |
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On Nov 5, 3:48 pm, "La N" <nilita2004NOS... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]Jack Linthicum wrote:
NBC: 7 dead, 12 injured in Fort Hood shooting
No word from the military base whether the victims are military or
civilians
View related photos
BREAKING NEWS
msnbc.com news services
updated 4 minutes ago
At least seven people are dead and 12 wounded in a shooting at Fort
Hood in Texas, the base's public affairs office told NBC News on
Thursday.
The official would not give his name nor additional details. It was
unknown whether victims are soldiers or civilians. One gunman was
reportedly in custody and another was on the loose, NBC News said. A
third shooter may be involved, according to NBC News affiliate KCEN.
KCEN in Waco reported that the second suspect may be holed up in a
building on the post.
Story continues below ?advertisement | your ad here
The base was reportedly on lockdown. Two nearby school districts were
also being locked down.
Fort Hood is adjacent to Killeen, and 60 miles northeast of Austin.
The sprawling complex is home to at least 4,929 active duty officers
and 45,414 enlisted. Civilian employees total nearly 9,000.
The base has seen other violence in recent years. In September 2008, a
21-year-old 1st Cavalry Division soldier shot his lieutenant to death
and then killed himself. Spc. Jody Michael Wirawan of Eagle River,
Alaska. shot himself to death after shooting 1st Lt. Robert Bartlett
Fletcher, 24, of Jensen Beach, Fla. to death.
A military couple who are at the base and are among my Facebook friends have
thankfully reassured me/us that they are fine. No other details.
- nilita
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I wonder what Dr. Quim's response will be to this guy. |
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| La N... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:48 pm |
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Jack Linthicum wrote:
[quote]NBC: 7 dead, 12 injured in Fort Hood shooting
No word from the military base whether the victims are military or
civilians
View related photos
BREAKING NEWS
msnbc.com news services
updated 4 minutes ago
At least seven people are dead and 12 wounded in a shooting at Fort
Hood in Texas, the base's public affairs office told NBC News on
Thursday.
The official would not give his name nor additional details. It was
unknown whether victims are soldiers or civilians. One gunman was
reportedly in custody and another was on the loose, NBC News said. A
third shooter may be involved, according to NBC News affiliate KCEN.
KCEN in Waco reported that the second suspect may be holed up in a
building on the post.
Story continues below ?advertisement | your ad here
The base was reportedly on lockdown. Two nearby school districts were
also being locked down.
Fort Hood is adjacent to Killeen, and 60 miles northeast of Austin.
The sprawling complex is home to at least 4,929 active duty officers
and 45,414 enlisted. Civilian employees total nearly 9,000.
The base has seen other violence in recent years. In September 2008, a
21-year-old 1st Cavalry Division soldier shot his lieutenant to death
and then killed himself. Spc. Jody Michael Wirawan of Eagle River,
Alaska. shot himself to death after shooting 1st Lt. Robert Bartlett
Fletcher, 24, of Jensen Beach, Fla. to death.
[/quote]
A military couple who are at the base and are among my Facebook friends have
thankfully reassured me/us that they are fine. No other details.
- nilita |
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| kangarooistan... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:16 pm |
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On Nov 6, 12:06 pm, Arved Sandstrom <dces... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Ray O'Hara wrote:
"Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthi... at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:6b12ca69-1863-4e3c-92db-15c6a25e87a2 at (no spam) m1g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
NBC: 7 dead, 12 injured inFortHoodshooting
No word from the military base whether the victims are military or
civilians
View related photos
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The shooter was Major Malik Nadal Hasan, he had two accomplices, Major Hasan
is dead and the other two in custody.
[/quote]
Magor Hasan is not dead , but wounded
Will training MOREMuslims should rise up'
Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who killed 11 people before being shot dead
at Fort Hood, had said Muslims should "rise up" and attack Americans
in retaliation for the US war in Iraq, a former army colleague said
last night.
By Philip Sherwell in New York
Published: 1:41AM GMT 06 Nov 2009
Col Terry Lee, a retired officer who worked with him at the military
base in Texas, described angry confrontations between Maj Hasan and
other officers after he expressed his views.
Maj Hasan was reportedly fighting orders to be deployed to Iraq at the
end of the month, claiming that he was the victim of harassment and
insults because of his Arab background and his faith.
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The major was a psychiatrist who had been treating soldiers returning
from Iraq for post-traumatic stress and alcohol and drug abuse
problems.
"He was making outlandish comments condemning our foreign policy and
claimed Muslims had the right to rise up and attack Americans," Col
Lee told Fox News.
"He said Muslims should stand up and fight the aggressor and that we
should not be in the war in the first place."
He said he was aware that the major had been subject to "name calling"
during heated arguments with other officers.
Maj Hasan's cousin Nader Husan said he was happy working for the
military but did dread deployment to Iraq.
Mr Hasan said his cousin was a US-born Muslim who had joined the
military after high school.
He had served as a psychiatrist at the Walter Reed Army Medical
Center in Washington DC, which treats many badly wounded troops.
"He was a psychiatrist at Walter Reed dealing with the people coming
back and ... trying to help them with their trauma," he said.
He said his cousin had been transferred to Fort Hood in April months
ago and was very reluctant to be deployed to Iraq. "We've known over
the last five years that was probably his worst nightmare," he said.
Published: November 5, 2009
Updated: 23 min. ago
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* Shootings at Fort Hood
Officials at MacDill Air Force Base, home to Central Command and
Special Operations Command, are not talking about what, if any,
additional security measures they are taking after today's shootings
at Fort Hood.
"The Air Force takes the safety and security of its personnel
seriously, and the Air Force is committed to protecting all service
members, their families, civilian employees and anyone else that works
or visits MacDill AFB," Col. Larry Martin, 6th Air Mobility Wing
commander, said in a written statement. "MacDill Air Force Base has
security measures in place at all times, however, The Air Force does
not discuss specifics of our force protection measures."
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Fort Hood shootings not first brush with tragedy
05:20 PM CST on Thursday, November 5, 2009
From staff reports
Killeen was the site of one of the nation's most deadly mass shootings
on Oct. 16, 1991. On that day, George Hennard, 35, slammed his truck
through the front window of a Luby's Cafeteria in Killeen.
Yelling, "This is what Bell County did to me," he got out of his truck
and began shooting diners. Within 10 minutes, he had killed 23 people
and wounded more than 20 before committing suicide.
12 dead as soldier opens fire at Fort Hood Army base
Google map: Area where shootings reportedly occurred
Obama laments 'horrific outburst of violence'
Link: Fort Hood facts
Witnesses said the killer strolled through the cafeteria, randomly
selecting victims.
No motive was ever established.
Reportedly a racist and a misogynist, he wrote to a friend in early
1991: "Please give me the satisfaction of one day laughing in the face
of all those mostly white treacherous female vipers." After graduating
from high school, he joined the Navy, then later transferred to the
Merchant Marine,
Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001)
was a United States Army veteran and security guard who was convicted
of bombing the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City on April 19,
1995, the second anniversary of the Waco Siege, as revenge or to
inspire a revolt against what he considered a tyrannical federal
government.
The bombing killed 168 people and was the deadliest act of terrorism
within the United States prior to the September 11, 2001 attacks.[2]
Military career
In May 1988, McVeigh enlisted in the U.S. Army.[17] He had little
interest in the bar scene, preferring to use his spare time to read
about guns, sniper tactics, or explosives.[18] He once ordered a
"White Power" T-shirt from the KKK in protest against black servicemen
who wore "Black Power" T-shirts around his army camp [19], but was
reprimanded.
He was a decorated veteran of the United States Army, having served in
the Gulf War, where he was awarded a Bronze Star. He had been a top-
scoring gunner with the 25mm cannon of the Bradley Fighting Vehicles
used by the U.S. 1st Infantry Division to which he was assigned. He
served at Fort Riley, Kansas, before Operation Desert Storm. At Fort
Riley, McVeigh completed the Primary Leadership Development Course
(PLDC). McVeigh later would say that the Army taught him how to switch
off his emotions.[6] He had special lifesaving training and may have
saved the life of a comrade who had life-threatening shrapnel wounds.
[20]
McVeigh wanted to join the United States Army Special Forces. After
returning from the Gulf War, he entered the selection program for
United States Army Special Forces to become a SF soldier , but was
quickly dropped from the program after failing to meet the physical
fitness requirements. Shortly thereafter, McVeigh decided to leave the
Army. He was discharged on December 31, 1991.[21] McVeigh was given an
honorable discharge from the Army Reserve in May 1992.
He was convicted of 11 federal offenses, sentenced to death and
executed on June 11, 2001.
Muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan save the western military from DEFEAT
in Iraq and Afghanistan??
born bred educated armed and PAID by western taxpayers to attack the
LARGEST USa military base on EARTH
Nothing can save western military from total defeat
[quote]
I like the quote from Sen Kay Bailey Hutchinson, in reference to the
major getting orders to deploy to Iraq: "[he] appeared to be upset about
that."
You figure?
AHS[/quote] |
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| Ray O'Hara... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 5:47 pm |
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"Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthicum at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:6b12ca69-1863-4e3c-92db-15c6a25e87a2 at (no spam) m1g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
NBC: 7 dead, 12 injured in Fort Hood shooting
No word from the military base whether the victims are military or
civilians
View related photos
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The shooter was Major Malik Nadal Hasan, he had two accomplices, Major Hasan
is dead and the other two in custody. |
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| Ray O'Hara... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:08 pm |
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"Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hcvkme$vok$1 at (no spam) news.eternal-september.org...
[quote]
"Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthicum at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:6b12ca69-1863-4e3c-92db-15c6a25e87a2 at (no spam) m1g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
NBC: 7 dead, 12 injured in Fort Hood shooting
No word from the military base whether the victims are military or
civilians
View related photos
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The shooter was Major Malik Nadal Hasan, he had two accomplices, Major
Hasan is dead and the other two in custody.
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"Ray O'Hara" <raymond-ohara at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in
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[quote]
"Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthicum at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:6b12ca69-1863-4e3c-92db-15c6a25e87a2 at (no spam) m1g2000vbi.googlegroups.com
... NBC: 7 dead, 12 injured in Fort Hood shooting
No word from the military base whether the victims are military or
civilians
View related photos
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The shooter was Major Malik Nadal Hasan, he had two accomplices,
Major Hasan is dead and the other two in custody.
Supposedly an MD with psychiatry specialization. Recent transfer[/quote]
from Walter Reed AMC.
scott s.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 7:42 pm |
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On Nov 5, 8:41 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]Arved Sandstrom <dces... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
:Ray O'Hara wrote:
:> "Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthi... at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
:>news:6b12ca69-1863-4e3c-92db-15c6a25e87a2 at (no spam) m1g2000vbi.googlegroups.com....
:> NBC: 7 dead, 12 injured in Fort Hood shooting
:> No word from the military base whether the victims are military or
:> civilians
:> View related photos
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:> =========================================================================== =====> :
:> The shooter was Major Malik Nadal Hasan, he had two accomplices, Major Hasan
:> is dead and the other two in custody.
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:I like the quote from Sen Kay Bailey Hutchinson, in reference to the
:major getting orders to deploy to Iraq: "[he] appeared to be upset about
:that."
:
:You figure?
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A supposedly intelligent and well-educated man and it never occurred
to him that he had joined a military organization?
--
"Der Feige droht nur, wo er sicher ist."
--Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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Two things, one a question, one a point.
Ft. Hood is the largest ARMY base, not military. NAWCWEPS has
them easily beat.
I can understand how he shot so many soldiers, I've always thought
it ridiculous how the services restrict weapons on base (can't defend
your own home while you're defending the constitution.) But how the
hell did an army doctor wound four SWAT members? With proper
procedure
when he shot at the first, someone should have already had him in
their sights.
Who screwed the pooch? He's a friggin doctor and he took down four
SWAT members!!!!
BB |
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| Arved Sandstrom... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:06 pm |
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Ray O'Hara wrote:
[quote]"Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthicum at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:6b12ca69-1863-4e3c-92db-15c6a25e87a2 at (no spam) m1g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
NBC: 7 dead, 12 injured in Fort Hood shooting
No word from the military base whether the victims are military or
civilians
View related photos
=================================================================================
The shooter was Major Malik Nadal Hasan, he had two accomplices, Major Hasan
is dead and the other two in custody.
[/quote]
I like the quote from Sen Kay Bailey Hutchinson, in reference to the
major getting orders to deploy to Iraq: "[he] appeared to be upset about
that."
You figure?
AHS |
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| Andrew Swallow... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:34 pm |
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kangarooistan wrote:
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[quote]Will training MOREMuslims should rise up'
Major Nidal Malik Hasan, who killed 11 people before being shot dead
at Fort Hood, had said Muslims should "rise up" and attack Americans
in retaliation for the US war in Iraq, a former army colleague said
last night.
[/quote]
If that statement is true it gives a choice of charges - murder, treason
or possibly both.
The courts should be careful before accepting an insanity plea
since ss a psychiatrist he will know how to fake the symptoms.
[quote]
{snip}
The major was a psychiatrist who had been treating soldiers returning
from Iraq for post-traumatic stress and alcohol and drug abuse
problems.
"He was making outlandish comments condemning our foreign policy and
claimed Muslims had the right to rise up and attack Americans," Col
Lee told Fox News.
"He said Muslims should stand up and fight the aggressor and that we
should not be in the war in the first place."
He said he was aware that the major had been subject to "name calling"
during heated arguments with other officers.
[/quote]
"Name calling" = minor. If you cannot take a joke you should not be here.
The prosecution may wish to call a retired black soldier from
the 1940s or 1950s who can describe *real* racism.
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:41 pm |
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Arved Sandstrom <dcest61 at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
:Ray O'Hara wrote:
:> "Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthicum at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
:> news:6b12ca69-1863-4e3c-92db-15c6a25e87a2 at (no spam) m1g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
:> NBC: 7 dead, 12 injured in Fort Hood shooting
:> No word from the military base whether the victims are military or
:> civilians
:> View related photos
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:> =================================================================================
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:> The shooter was Major Malik Nadal Hasan, he had two accomplices, Major Hasan
:> is dead and the other two in custody.
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:I like the quote from Sen Kay Bailey Hutchinson, in reference to the
:major getting orders to deploy to Iraq: "[he] appeared to be upset about
:that."
:
:You figure?
:
A supposedly intelligent and well-educated man and it never occurred
to him that he had joined a military organization?
--
"Der Feige droht nur, wo er sicher ist."
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On Nov 6, 12:42 am, BlackBeard <spk_... at (no spam) msn.com> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 5, 8:41 pm, Fred J. McCall <fjmcc... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Arved Sandstrom <dces... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
:Ray O'Hara wrote:
:> "Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthi... at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
:>news:6b12ca69-1863-4e3c-92db-15c6a25e87a2 at (no spam) m1g2000vbi.googlegroups.com....
:> NBC: 7 dead, 12 injured in Fort Hood shooting
:> No word from the military base whether the victims are military or
:> civilians
:> View related photos
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:> =========================================================================== =====> > :
:> The shooter was Major Malik Nadal Hasan, he had two accomplices, Major Hasan
:> is dead and the other two in custody.
:
:I like the quote from Sen Kay Bailey Hutchinson, in reference to the
:major getting orders to deploy to Iraq: "[he] appeared to be upset about
:that."
:
:You figure?
:
A supposedly intelligent and well-educated man and it never occurred
to him that he had joined a military organization?
--
"Der Feige droht nur, wo er sicher ist."
--Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Two things, one a question, one a point.
Ft. Hood is the largest ARMY base, not military. NAWCWEPS has
them easily beat.
I can understand how he shot so many soldiers, I've always thought
it ridiculous how the services restrict weapons on base (can't defend
your own home while you're defending the constitution.) But how the
hell did an army doctor wound four SWAT members? With proper
procedure
when he shot at the first, someone should have already had him in
their sights.
Who screwed the pooch? He's a friggin doctor and he took down four
SWAT members!!!!
BB
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That Congressman's aide said he heard "automatic" fire. Hard to
believe that pistols could make that sound but witness testimony can
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Arved Sandstrom <dcest61 at (no spam) hotmail.com> writes:
[quote]Ray O'Hara wrote:
"Jack Linthicum" <jacklinthicum at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:6b12ca69-1863-4e3c-92db-15c6a25e87a2 at (no spam) m1g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
NBC: 7 dead, 12 injured in Fort Hood shooting
No word from the military base whether the victims are military or
civilians
View related photos
=================================================================================
The shooter was Major Malik Nadal Hasan, he had two accomplices,
Major Hasan is dead and the other two in custody.
I like the quote from Sen Kay Bailey Hutchinson, in reference to the
major getting orders to deploy to Iraq: "[he] appeared to be upset
about that."
You figure?
[/quote]
Duh! It was funny in an unfunny way.
It's really going to be interesting how the investigation is going
to move on this. Human-orientated psychological factors versus
government laws and regulations? |
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