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| Nightcrawler... |
 Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:53 pm |
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"BradGuth" <bradguth at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message news:3b9d6bb8-3dde-48d8-b03d-97b817aeb9b8 at (no spam) f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
[quote]How about our 2nd moon Cruithne: (other than a few ppm sequestered
within its bedrock, does Cruithne got water?)
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2nd moon? You are aware of that rock's orbit, right? |
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| Saul Levy... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:32 am |
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I've told GOOFY many times, but he remains our #1 VILLAGE IDIOT!
lmfjao!
Doesn't know a DAMN THING about ORBITS!
Saul Levy
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:53:14 -0600, "Nightcrawler"
<Dirtydeeds at (no spam) dirtcheap.net> wrote:
[quote]"BradGuth" <bradguth at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message news:3b9d6bb8-3dde-48d8-b03d-97b817aeb9b8 at (no spam) f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
How about our 2nd moon Cruithne: (other than a few ppm sequestered
within its bedrock, does Cruithne got water?)
2nd moon? You are aware of that rock's orbit, right?[/quote] |
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:06 am |
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On Nov 6, 5:34 am, herbertglaz... at (no spam) webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
[quote]Darla Very interesting that Titan has a oily surface. Maybe nitrogen as
a liquid on top of its frozen surface. Here on Earth water on ice makes
it very slippery. I know Titan is bigger than Mercury,but not how much
bigger. That it orbits pretty fast(about 16 days) from a distance of
about 800,000 miles. Voyager 2 took some nice pictures. Its nitrogen
reflects back blue light,and we have another blue marble in our solar
system. Your virtual friend till the end Bert.
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Too bad we don't even have the necessary technology or the resources
to exploit our semi-hollow Selene/moon. Good Christ almighty on a
stick, we can't even exploit our Selene/moon L1, much less the
extremely nearby planet Venus that only a little over 100 times
further than our moon every 19 months.
~ BG |
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:14 am |
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On Nov 6, 6:36 am, "Nightcrawler" <Dirtyde... at (no spam) dirtcheap.net> wrote:
[quote]"BradGuth" <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:98854aa5-5e38-432c-9b5f-37fa1a36a665 at (no spam) z4g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
Right, it's extremely weird and captured.
All orbits are "captured". This orbit is no weirder than many other objects
that orbit the sun.
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Except that it was captured by Earth, just like our Selene/moon was
captured by Earth.
[quote]
What parts of our Selene/moon or that of Earth had been impacted or
perhaps nearly grazed by Cruithne?
Impacted? Zero.
Grazed? Zero.
Does not cross Earth orbit. (12 million km closest approach at 19 degree
inclination.)
[/quote]
That is not exactly correct.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3753_Cruithne
"All orbits are "captured". This orbit is no weirder than many other
objects that orbit the sun."
[quote]
Though, you might be delighted to know that
it crosses Venus' orbit. Maybe Cruithne will give Venus a hot pounding
some day.
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It certainly could have been one of the moons of Venus, as well as
Selene having belonged to the planet Venus.
[quote]
Where did Cruithne come from?
Same place that all of the other junk in our solar system came from.
[/quote]
Sirius B
[quote]
When was Cruithne first captured?
See "solar system".
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Sirius B
~ BG |
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| G=EMC^2 Glazier... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:34 am |
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Darla Very interesting that Titan has a oily surface. Maybe nitrogen as
a liquid on top of its frozen surface. Here on Earth water on ice makes
it very slippery. I know Titan is bigger than Mercury,but not how much
bigger. That it orbits pretty fast(about 16 days) from a distance of
about 800,000 miles. Voyager 2 took some nice pictures. Its nitrogen
reflects back blue light,and we have another blue marble in our solar
system. Your virtual friend till the end Bert. |
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| Nightcrawler... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:36 am |
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"BradGuth" <bradguth at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message news:98854aa5-5e38-432c-9b5f-37fa1a36a665 at (no spam) z4g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
[quote]Right, it's extremely weird and captured.
[/quote]
All orbits are "captured". This orbit is no weirder than many other objects
that orbit the sun.
[quote]What parts of our Selene/moon or that of Earth had been impacted or
perhaps nearly grazed by Cruithne?
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Impacted? Zero.
Grazed? Zero.
Does not cross Earth orbit. (12 million km closest approach at 19 degree
inclination.)
Though, you might be delighted to know that
it crosses Venus' orbit. Maybe Cruithne will give Venus a hot pounding
some day.
[quote]Where did Cruithne come from?
[/quote]
Same place that all of the other junk in our solar system came from.
[quote]When was Cruithne first captured?
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See "solar system". |
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| Saul Levy... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:50 pm |
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Titan sounds like YOU, LIAR B! lmfjao!
Saul Levy
On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:34:03 -0500, herbertglazier at (no spam) webtv.net (G=EMC^2
Glazier) wrote:
Maybe nitr
>Darla Very interesting that Titan has a oily surface. Bert. |
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:20 pm |
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On Nov 5, 11:54 am, Double-A <double... at (no spam) hush.com> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 4, 8:36 pm, BradGuth <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Funny story.
Show craft/art work of that era that depicts seasons, human seasonal
migrations or moon.
~ BG
Would a Neanderthal family photo album do?
Double-A
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As long as there's a moon, something seasonal or migration worthy in
that "Neanderthal family photo album", sure thing.
~ BG |
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| Saul Levy... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:41 pm |
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How about you're a WACKO, NUTSO, NUTJOB? lmfjao!
Close enough to a REAL ALIEN!
BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Your reply here shows how INSANE you really are. I can't handle
INSANE people. You, or GOOFY who sure doesn't agree with you.!
I'm fine with griz! I've been near them in Alaska.
Saul Levy
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 20:44:53 -0500, "Darla" <darlapere at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
[quote]"Saul Levy" <saullevy1 at (no spam) cox.net> wrote in message
news:49cne5tacsmg1ihp3ijq0mkiku96mfgeub at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Too bad that Darla died in an INSANE ASYLUM two weeks ago, LIAR B!
lmfjao!
She thought she was an ALIEN!
Saul Levy
No, not at all, Saul.
I've lived here on "your" planet far too long to call myself an ALIEN.
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[quote]Bert, dearest one!
Rumors of my demise, though exagerated, are to be expected.
After all, I've "died" more times than most humans have lived.
Haven't checked the email since we returned.
I was too drawn to the water, which when I'm on a mission, I miss terribly.
Good to be back though, and I'm honored that we were missed.
[/quote]
[quote]Oh, my dear Brad!
When will you come to grips with the fact that our awesome Saul actually
likes you?
(Though he certainly wouldn't admit of it.)
If he didn't care for you, he would have eventually ignored you.
Instead, he keeps working in his own way to attempt to open your eyes.
And you keep trying to open his eyes in your own way.
Perhaps you two should spend some hiking time together?
A common enemy, like a grizzly bear, might open both your and Saul's eyes![/quote] |
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| Saul Levy... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:41 pm |
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You don't BELONG ANYWHERE, GOOFYSHIT!
A griz should EAT YOU! lmfjao!
That would solve a lot.
Saul Levy
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:55:55 -0800 (PST), BradGuth <bradguth at (no spam) gmail.com>
wrote:
[quote]On Nov 3, 5:44 pm, "Darla" <darlap... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
"Saul Levy" <saulle... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote in message
news:49cne5tacsmg1ihp3ijq0mkiku96mfgeub at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Too bad that Darla died in an INSANE ASYLUM two weeks ago, LIAR B!
lmfjao!
She thought she was an ALIEN!
Saul Levy
No, not at all, Saul.
I've lived here on "your" planet far too long to call myself an ALIEN.
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:49:21 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 29, 5:31 am, herbertglaz... at (no spam) webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
Can't get though to Darla's email,and i'm sure all others have tried. I
am worried,fearful,and very depressed . Need only one word from
Darla,and I would be a happy earthling Bert
Bert, dearest one!
Rumors of my demise, though exagerated, are to be expected.
After all, I've "died" more times than most humans have lived.
Haven't checked the email since we returned.
I was too drawn to the water, which when I'm on a mission, I miss terribly.
Good to be back though, and I'm honored that we were missed.
No amount of talking to rabbi Saul is going to help.
~ BG
Oh, my dear Brad!
When will you come to grips with the fact that our awesome Saul actually
likes you?
(Though he certainly wouldn't admit of it.)
If he didn't care for you, he would have eventually ignored you.
Instead, he keeps working in his own way to attempt to open your eyes.
And you keep trying to open his eyes in your own way.
Perhaps you two should spend some hiking time together?
A common enemy, like a grizzly bear, might open both your and Saul's eyes!
--
Darla
Rabbi Saul will never admit that anything bad is ever going to happen,
even when that bear is ripping off his arm or eating some innocent
bystanders. Saul is purely anti-doom, anti-gloom and otherwise pro-
status-quo on behalf of keeping everything exactly as is, as well as
forbid any revisionism regardless of whatever hard and objective
evidence. His kosher approved eyes are also shut to deductive logic.
Trust me, there's no love-loss or any kind of mutual respect between
the two of us. You might as well suggest that Art Deco was really on
my side. I thought ETs and their terrestrial minions were extra
smart, so what happened in your case?
btw; bears and most other biodiversity belongs on Earth, whereas we
humans clearly do not.
~ BG[/quote] |
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| Hagar... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:05 pm |
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"Double-A" <double-a3 at (no spam) hush.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 4, 8:36 pm, BradGuth <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 4, 6:58 pm, Double-A <double... at (no spam) hush.com> wrote:
On Nov 4, 5:37 pm, BradGuth <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 4, 10:27 am, "Hagar" <ha... at (no spam) sahm.name> wrote:
"BradGuth" <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:24712665-e775-4a15-bfde-ffd398e1de65 at (no spam) a37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 4, 9:34 am, Double-A <double... at (no spam) hush.com> wrote:
On Nov 4, 6:55 am, BradGuth <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 4, 6:28 am, "HVAC" <harlowcampb... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
"Darla" <darlap... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
news:4af0dc96$0$15008$9a6e19ea at (no spam) unlimited.newshosting.com...
Bert, dearest one!
I see you're off to a bad start.........
Rumors of my demise, though exagerated, are to be expected.
After all, I've "died" more times than most humans have
lived.
Oh Christ! You're not another one of those "Everybody look at
ME becuase *I'm* from another planet" retards are you?
--
An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.
You do realize that Darla is Jewish, don't you?
So are Santa Clause, the Tooth Fairy, and the Easter Bunny, but so
what?
Darla seems Einstein smart enough, and unlike yourself is
willing to
share without being an asshole about it. But then you and others
of
your kind would have treated Einstein like shit if you didn't
already
know he was a Jewish god. Now that you know better, perhaps you
shouldn't give Darla the usual topic/author stalking and
systematic
bashings.
~ BG
Brad, do you think all Jews are descended fro aliens?
Double-A
That would certainly make a whole lot of better sense than most any
other story of woe that you and most others can think of. In fact,
most of us and at least some of our biodiversity are likely derived
via directed panspermia if not intentionally transplanted from other
older colonizations that couldn't possibly have originated here on
Earth, that is unless there were highly advanced terrestrial
civilizations prior to our ice-age traumatized world having
encountered an icy Selene.
~ BG
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Say, are you related to Ed Conrad ???
He was the resident lunatic with his "man older than coal" crapola,
but you just leap-frogged over him ... your "Luna" theory is, well
...
Lunacy ...
Ed's stuff has been confirmed as 100% every bit as real as coal that's
280 MYO, except biologically human like.
However, those last ice-age humans as of 13000+ BP didn't seem to have
a seasonal tilt or any benefit of moonlight to help get them through
those icy cold nighttimes. Going back further then the last ice-age,
through those many extreme ice-ages before, and who knows how those
extremely survival tough humans ever managed to propagate faster than
they were being eaten alive and/or frozen to death.
~ BG
The seasonal tilt at 13000 BP was the same as now, except rotated by
180 degrees, and the Moon was about where it is now too. The real
question is how Homo sapiens successfully competed with the
Neanderthals who were seemingly better adapted to colder climates.
Double-A
Funny story.
Show craft/art work of that era that depicts seasons, human seasonal
migrations or moon.
~ BG
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Would a Neanderthal family photo album do?
Double-A
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GuthBall could just send you a family picture .... |
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| Darla... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:03 am |
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"BradGuth" <bradguth at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 5, 3:52 pm, "Darla" <darlap... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
[quote]"BradGuth" <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0997ade2-fff2-4143-a565-ac6918d24ff7 at (no spam) j4g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 5, 1:05 am, "Darla" <darlap... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
"BradGuth" <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:77ce7506-ef9c-4fa1-b279-7eaad254cf9a at (no spam) x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 4, 11:18 pm, "Darla" <darlap... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
"BradGuth" <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:249e3d40-62ae-4cbb-990f-0870b665bf2e at (no spam) 12g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 3, 5:44 pm, "Darla" <darlap... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
"Saul Levy" <saulle... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote in message
news:49cne5tacsmg1ihp3ijq0mkiku96mfgeub at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Too bad that Darla died in an INSANE ASYLUM two weeks ago, LIAR B!
lmfjao!
She thought she was an ALIEN!
Saul Levy
No, not at all, Saul.
I've lived here on "your" planet far too long to call myself an
ALIEN.
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:49:21 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 29, 5:31 am, herbertglaz... at (no spam) webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier)
wrote:
Can't get though to Darla's email,and i'm sure all others have
tried.
I
am worried,fearful,and very depressed . Need only one word from
Darla,and I would be a happy earthling Bert
Bert, dearest one!
Rumors of my demise, though exagerated, are to be expected.
After all, I've "died" more times than most humans have lived.
Haven't checked the email since we returned.
I was too drawn to the water, which when I'm on a mission, I miss
terribly.
Good to be back though, and I'm honored that we were missed.
No amount of talking to rabbi Saul is going to help.
~ BG
Oh, my dear Brad!
When will you come to grips with the fact that our awesome Saul
actually
likes you?
(Though he certainly wouldn't admit of it.)
If he didn't care for you, he would have eventually ignored you.
Instead, he keeps working in his own way to attempt to open your
eyes.
And you keep trying to open his eyes in your own way.
Perhaps you two should spend some hiking time together?
A common enemy, like a grizzly bear, might open both your and Saul's
eyes!
--
Darla
Rabbi Saul will never admit that anything bad is ever going to happen,
even when that bear is ripping off his arm or eating some innocent
bystanders. Saul is purely anti-doom, anti-gloom and otherwise pro-
status-quo on behalf of keeping everything exactly as is, as well as
forbid any revisionism regardless of whatever hard and objective
evidence. His kosher approved eyes are also shut to deductive logic.
Trust me, there's no love-loss or any kind of mutual respect between
the two of us. You might as well suggest that Art Deco was really on
my side. I thought ETs and their terrestrial minions were extra
smart, so what happened in your case?
btw; bears and most other biodiversity belongs on Earth, whereas we
humans clearly do not.
~ BG
Nothing belongs here - everything belongs here.
I was not born here, and yet I claim Earth as my home.
You do belong here, Brad!
Humans just need to take better care of their home.
--
Darla
The last few thousand years proves that modern (supposedly
intelligent) humans are either unwilling and/or incapable of taking
care of this frail Eden/Earth.
Eventually we'll need a larger and more resource substantial planet to
destroy. In the mean time, how about we screw with Venus?
~ BG
There are already several people who see the good in taking care of
Earth,
and they are taking forward strides to do so.
More of you should get involved with this.
It is the only home you know.
In fact, at least at present, Earth is the only home you have.
And Earth is far less "frail" than one may think it is.
You should be very thankful for that.
Venus, Mars, the Moon all contain resources that humans will eventually
need
and utilize.
Even the Sun will eventually be utilized more efficiently and
effectively.
And Titan!
You all will absolutely adore Titan!
It's a good candidate to be a base when you're ready to explore beyond
the
confines of your Solar System.
--
Darla
Titan at best is many decades away from our even getting any such
mission underway, plus at least another decade after that before
parking any humans butts on Titan. The cost for such would likely be
in the realm of at least $100+B if not a trillion hard earned dollars
for accomplishing that first human expedition and exploration phase of
Titan, establishing that base camp for others wealthy enough and young
enough to follow.
If we had to make a faster move as of today, keeping within our known
technology or most likely advancements in such off-world capability,
which of the other planets or moons (including Selene) would be worth
considering?
~ BG
Every one you can see, and some you haven't seen yet.
Even the asteroids hold significant water, Brad.
--
**** Darla of sci.electromagnetics
Be well and come, be welcome.
You are the fifth star!
[/quote]
I agree, in that deep enough within our Selene/moon should be geode
pockets or cavernous layers of water, or at least mineral brines that
have never been exposed to that 3e-15 bar vacuum of local space.
How about our 2nd moon Cruithne: (other than a few ppm sequestered
within its bedrock, does Cruithne got water?)
~ BG
D....
Yes!
Even planet Mercury has pockets of water.
It's density allows this even so close to the Sun.
Finding water on other celestial bodies is the least of human challenges.
--
**** Darla of sci.electromagnetics
Be well and come, be welcome.
You are the fifth star! |
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| BradGuth... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:59 am |
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On Nov 7, 11:03 pm, "Darla" <darlap... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
[quote]"BradGuth" <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3b9d6bb8-3dde-48d8-b03d-97b817aeb9b8 at (no spam) f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 5, 3:52 pm, "Darla" <darlap... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
"BradGuth" <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:0997ade2-fff2-4143-a565-ac6918d24ff7 at (no spam) j4g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 5, 1:05 am, "Darla" <darlap... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
"BradGuth" <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:77ce7506-ef9c-4fa1-b279-7eaad254cf9a at (no spam) x5g2000prf.googlegroups.com....
On Nov 4, 11:18 pm, "Darla" <darlap... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
"BradGuth" <bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:249e3d40-62ae-4cbb-990f-0870b665bf2e at (no spam) 12g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 3, 5:44 pm, "Darla" <darlap... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
"Saul Levy" <saulle... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote in message
news:49cne5tacsmg1ihp3ijq0mkiku96mfgeub at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Too bad that Darla died in an INSANE ASYLUM two weeks ago, LIAR B!
lmfjao!
She thought she was an ALIEN!
Saul Levy
No, not at all, Saul.
I've lived here on "your" planet far too long to call myself an
ALIEN.
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 07:49:21 -0700 (PDT), BradGuth
bradg... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 29, 5:31 am, herbertglaz... at (no spam) webtv.net (G=EMC^2 Glazier)
wrote:
Can't get though to Darla's email,and i'm sure all others have
tried.
I
am worried,fearful,and very depressed . Need only one word from
Darla,and I would be a happy earthling Bert
Bert, dearest one!
Rumors of my demise, though exagerated, are to be expected.
After all, I've "died" more times than most humans have lived.
Haven't checked the email since we returned.
I was too drawn to the water, which when I'm on a mission, I miss
terribly.
Good to be back though, and I'm honored that we were missed.
No amount of talking to rabbi Saul is going to help.
~ BG
Oh, my dear Brad!
When will you come to grips with the fact that our awesome Saul
actually
likes you?
(Though he certainly wouldn't admit of it.)
If he didn't care for you, he would have eventually ignored you.
Instead, he keeps working in his own way to attempt to open your
eyes.
And you keep trying to open his eyes in your own way.
Perhaps you two should spend some hiking time together?
A common enemy, like a grizzly bear, might open both your and Saul's
eyes!
--
Darla
Rabbi Saul will never admit that anything bad is ever going to happen,
even when that bear is ripping off his arm or eating some innocent
bystanders. Saul is purely anti-doom, anti-gloom and otherwise pro-
status-quo on behalf of keeping everything exactly as is, as well as
forbid any revisionism regardless of whatever hard and objective
evidence. His kosher approved eyes are also shut to deductive logic..
Trust me, there's no love-loss or any kind of mutual respect between
the two of us. You might as well suggest that Art Deco was really on
my side. I thought ETs and their terrestrial minions were extra
smart, so what happened in your case?
btw; bears and most other biodiversity belongs on Earth, whereas we
humans clearly do not.
~ BG
Nothing belongs here - everything belongs here.
I was not born here, and yet I claim Earth as my home.
You do belong here, Brad!
Humans just need to take better care of their home.
--
Darla
The last few thousand years proves that modern (supposedly
intelligent) humans are either unwilling and/or incapable of taking
care of this frail Eden/Earth.
Eventually we'll need a larger and more resource substantial planet to
destroy. In the mean time, how about we screw with Venus?
~ BG
There are already several people who see the good in taking care of
Earth,
and they are taking forward strides to do so.
More of you should get involved with this.
It is the only home you know.
In fact, at least at present, Earth is the only home you have.
And Earth is far less "frail" than one may think it is.
You should be very thankful for that.
Venus, Mars, the Moon all contain resources that humans will eventually
need
and utilize.
Even the Sun will eventually be utilized more efficiently and
effectively.
And Titan!
You all will absolutely adore Titan!
It's a good candidate to be a base when you're ready to explore beyond
the
confines of your Solar System.
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Darla
Titan at best is many decades away from our even getting any such
mission underway, plus at least another decade after that before
parking any humans butts on Titan. The cost for such would likely be
in the realm of at least $100+B if not a trillion hard earned dollars
for accomplishing that first human expedition and exploration phase of
Titan, establishing that base camp for others wealthy enough and young
enough to follow.
If we had to make a faster move as of today, keeping within our known
technology or most likely advancements in such off-world capability,
which of the other planets or moons (including Selene) would be worth
considering?
~ BG
Every one you can see, and some you haven't seen yet.
Even the asteroids hold significant water, Brad.
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**** Darla of sci.electromagnetics
Be well and come, be welcome.
You are the fifth star!
I agree, in that deep enough within our Selene/moon should be geode
pockets or cavernous layers of water, or at least mineral brines that
have never been exposed to that 3e-15 bar vacuum of local space.
How about our 2nd moon Cruithne: (other than a few ppm sequestered
within its bedrock, does Cruithne got water?)
~ BG
D....
Yes!
Even planet Mercury has pockets of water.
It's density allows this even so close to the Sun.
Finding water on other celestial bodies is the least of human challenges.
--
**** Darla of sci.electromagnetics
Be well and come, be welcome.
You are the fifth star!
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Unfortunately, our terrestrial fresh water is anything but fresh
enough or available enough to safely and affordably feed and water
1e10 souls, because there's either not enough fresh water where it's
needed or there's way too much fresh water where is isn't needed, and
most other water on Earth is getting saltier, acidic and oxygen
starved (latest accounting of ocean dead zones are at 250,000 km2 and
growing), and ocean diatoms are clearly endangered.
Even much of our fresh water has become saturated with heavy minerals
and toxins that our physiology isn't mutating fast enough to
compensate. Terrestrial hydrocarbon forms of energy for purifying
such nasty water are running low, and there's nothing significant
being done that'll replace such hydrocarbons or avoid the ongoing loss
of mass (hydrogen and helium <1t/sec) that our planet with its failing
geomagnetic force is having to deal with, in addition to the ongoing
thaw from the last ice-age this planet w/moon is ever going to see.
So, perhaps relocating a few billion souls to off-world underground
places, such as within our Selene/moon isn't so far fetched. Of
course thorium reactors and 3He/fusion energy as well as renewable
energy alternatives (including geothermal) could save our terrestrial
butts, but only if we could manage to stop warring against one another
long enough to allow such to happen.
~ BG |
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| BradGuth... |
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On Nov 8, 10:00 am, "Darla" <darlaperen... at (no spam) maol.com> wrote:
[quote]"Saul Levy" <saulle... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote in message
news:sfrbf5h9t31jjjt2dijomfaku5bru1h2vo at (no spam) 4ax.com...
How about you're a WACKO, NUTSO, NUTJOB? lmfjao!
Close enough to a REAL ALIEN!
BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Your reply here shows how INSANE you really are. I can't handle
INSANE people. . . .
Oh, I don't know, Saul.
You handled me pretty well there awhile back. <G
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**** Darla of sci.electromagnetics
Be well and come, be welcome.
You are the fifth star!
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Responding to rabbi Saul Levy is quite similar to responding to a
kosher pile of horse poop. At least once dried it makes for a good
form of renewable fuel.
~ BG |
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| Darla... |
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"Saul Levy" <saullevy1 at (no spam) cox.net> wrote in message
news:sfrbf5h9t31jjjt2dijomfaku5bru1h2vo at (no spam) 4ax.com...
[quote]How about you're a WACKO, NUTSO, NUTJOB? lmfjao!
Close enough to a REAL ALIEN!
BAWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Your reply here shows how INSANE you really are. I can't handle
INSANE people. . . .
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Oh, I don't know, Saul.
You handled me pretty well there awhile back. <G>
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**** Darla of sci.electromagnetics
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