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| Bill who putters... |
 Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:50 am |
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"The latest issue of the Drug and Therapeutics Bulletin (DTB) reports
that the use of low-dose aspirin to protect against heart attacks and
strokes in individuals yet to develop obvious cardiovascular disease,
should be abandoned."
<http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/169546.php>
Bill
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| PeterB - Original... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:46 am |
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On Nov 3, 12:30 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach... at (no spam) emory.edu>
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[quote]Bill who putters wrote:
"The latest issue of the Drug and Therapeutics Bulletin (DTB) reports
that the use of low-dose aspirin to protect against heart attacks and
strokes in individuals yet to develop obvious cardiovascular disease,
should be abandoned."
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/169546.php
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I do not agree with low dose aspirin for anyone. Approximately 25% of
the population is aspirin sensitive, a potentially symptom free
condition that predisposes the individual to an *increased* risk of
MI. Proper intake of omega3 EFAs, vitamin C, B vitamins, and
magnesium will dramatically lower the risk of fatal cardiac events
without the risk of side effects. |
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| Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:30 pm |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:29 pm |
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"The need for aspirin is possibly obviated even for secondary
prevention in diabetics when the VAT is lost:"
And the first step is to enter into an exercise program to that end.
Exercise has been shown to selectively and before calorie restriction
has a significant effect to reduce vat.
Once in place, what one eats along with maintaining normal weight and
the exercise will have continuing benefit. |
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| MU... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:06 am |
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On 03 Nov 2009 18:29:26 GMT, verity at (no spam) gefinden.com wrote:
[quote]"The need for aspirin is possibly obviated even for secondary
prevention in diabetics when the VAT is lost:"
And the first step is to enter into an exercise program to that end.
Exercise has been shown to selectively and before calorie restriction
has a significant effect to reduce vat.
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BS. Complete, stink and all. |
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| MU... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:06 am |
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On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:46:45 -0800 (PST), PeterB - Original wrote:
[quote]On Nov 3, 12:30 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach... at (no spam) emory.edu
wrote:
Bill who putters wrote:
"The latest issue of the Drug and Therapeutics Bulletin (DTB) reports
that the use of low-dose aspirin to protect against heart attacks and
strokes in individuals yet to develop obvious cardiovascular disease,
should be abandoned."
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/169546.php
I do not agree with low dose aspirin for anyone. Approximately 25% of
the population is aspirin sensitive, a potentially symptom free
condition that predisposes the individual to an *increased* risk of
MI. Proper intake of omega3 EFAs, vitamin C, B vitamins, and
magnesium will dramatically lower the risk of fatal cardiac events
without the risk of side effects.
[/quote]
Citations?
Thanks. |
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| MoSn... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:12 am |
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 08:06:59 -0600, MU wrote
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Citations?
Thanks.
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Since you seem to support Chung's 2 pound diet, do you have any citations
from the recognised medical literature and not simply what Chung has written?
Thanks. |
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| MU... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:47 pm |
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 10:12:55 -0600, MoSn wrote:
[quote]Since
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Enjoying being ignored?
Get used t it. |
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| PeterB - Original... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:48 pm |
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On Nov 4, 9:06 am, MU <efacsimi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:46:45 -0800 (PST), PeterB - Original wrote:
On Nov 3, 12:30 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach... at (no spam) emory.edu
wrote:
Bill who putters wrote:
"The latest issue of the Drug and Therapeutics Bulletin (DTB) reports
that the use of low-dose aspirin to protect against heart attacks and
strokes in individuals yet to develop obvious cardiovascular disease,
should be abandoned."
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/169546.php
I do not agree with low dose aspirin for anyone. Approximately 25% of
the population is aspirin sensitive, a potentially symptom free
condition that predisposes the individual to an *increased* risk of
MI. Proper intake of omega3 EFAs, vitamin C, B vitamins, and
magnesium will dramatically lower the risk of fatal cardiac events
without the risk of side effects.
Citations?
Thanks.
[/quote]
Search on "aspirin resistance" and you'll get thousands of articles,
many in pubmed. |
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| Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:09 pm |
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PeterB - Original wrote:
[quote]MU wrote:
PeterB - Original wrote:
Bill who putters wrote:
"The latest issue of the Drug and Therapeutics Bulletin (DTB) reports
that the use of low-dose aspirin to protect against heart attacks and
strokes in individuals yet to develop obvious cardiovascular disease,
should be abandoned."
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/169546.php
I do not agree with low dose aspirin for anyone. Approximately 25% of
the population is aspirin sensitive, a potentially symptom free
condition that predisposes the individual to an *increased* risk of
MI. Proper intake of omega3 EFAs, vitamin C, B vitamins, and
magnesium will dramatically lower the risk of fatal cardiac events
without the risk of side effects.
Citations?
Thanks.
Search on "aspirin resistance" and you'll get thousands of articles,
many in pubmed.
[/quote]
Folks with aspirin resistance would require more aspirin and not less
to none for the benefit of lowering the risk of fatal cardiac events.
Here again is that Spirit-guided thought about faux-christians like
you, Peter B.:
2 Peter 2:22
Yes, the Holy Spirit is absolutely right to convict you:
http://WDJW.net/CV
Bottom line concerning you:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/3a93a8d803ceeb62?
There is pure joy in being used by GOD to change hearts:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/8824c8a5b7c7518c?
May GOD give you, Peter B., a new heart and a new spirit (Ezekiel
11:19-20 and 36:26) so that you would be born again of water and
Spirit (John 3:3 and 3:5) so that you would come to trust the truth,
Who is Jesus:
http://T3WiJ.com
Amen.
Love in the truth,
Andrew <><
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified Heart Doctor
and Author of "Trust the Truth:"
http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B002G22ZWG
"... no one can say 'Jesus is LORD' except by the Holy Spirit." (1 Cor
12:3)
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/035c93540862751c?
What are the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven?
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/980b41e6999de315?
Only the truth can cure the "hunger is starvation" delusion:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.med.cardiology/msg/74281ab7d7ce78de? |
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| MU... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:13 am |
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:48:39 -0800 (PST), PeterB - Original wrote:
[quote]On Nov 4, 9:06 am, MU <efacsimi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:46:45 -0800 (PST), PeterB - Original wrote:
On Nov 3, 12:30 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach... at (no spam) emory.edu
wrote:
Bill who putters wrote:
"The latest issue of the Drug and Therapeutics Bulletin (DTB) reports
that the use of low-dose aspirin to protect against heart attacks and
strokes in individuals yet to develop obvious cardiovascular disease,
should be abandoned."
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/169546.php
I do not agree with low dose aspirin for anyone. Approximately 25% of
the population is aspirin sensitive, a potentially symptom free
condition that predisposes the individual to an *increased* risk of
MI. Proper intake of omega3 EFAs, vitamin C, B vitamins, and
magnesium will dramatically lower the risk of fatal cardiac events
without the risk of side effects.
Citations?
Thanks.
Search on "aspirin resistance" and you'll get thousands of articles,
many in pubmed.
[/quote]
What? Did you invent a mind-reading search engine? I search for "aspirin
resistance" and get proofs that "proper intake of omega3 EFAs, vitamin
C, B vitamins, and magnesium will dramatically lower the risk of fatal
cardiac events without the risk of side effects." too?
lol
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| MU... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:17 am |
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On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:09:08 -0800 (PST), Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
[quote]PeterB - Original wrote:
MU wrote:
PeterB - Original wrote:
Bill who putters wrote:
"The latest issue of the Drug and Therapeutics Bulletin (DTB) reports
that the use of low-dose aspirin to protect against heart attacks and
strokes in individuals yet to develop obvious cardiovascular disease,
should be abandoned."
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/169546.php
I do not agree with low dose aspirin for anyone. Approximately 25% of
the population is aspirin sensitive, a potentially symptom free
condition that predisposes the individual to an *increased* risk of
MI. Proper intake of omega3 EFAs, vitamin C, B vitamins, and
magnesium will dramatically lower the risk of fatal cardiac events
without the risk of side effects.
Citations?
Thanks.
Search on "aspirin resistance" and you'll get thousands of articles,
many in pubmed.
Folks with aspirin resistance would require more aspirin and not less
to none for the benefit of lowering the risk of fatal cardiac events.
[/quote]
I'd add that he needs to search for the definition of "resistance" v.s.
intolerance or w/ever it is he's attempting to relate. I have no idea. |
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| PeterB - Original... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:36 am |
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On Nov 9, 1:09 am, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
[quote]
Folks with aspirin resistance would require more aspirin and not less
to none for the benefit of lowering the risk of fatal cardiac events.
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Wrong! Aspirin resistance is not responsive to more aspirin.
Increasing dosage in those individuals will only increase their risk
of a fatal event. The fact that one cannot know that one is aspirin
resistant amplifies the risk because there may be no apparent
symptoms. Please note that I am not the poster who uses "Peter B.-
Aboriginal" as his screen name. |
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| PeterB - Original... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:41 pm |
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On Nov 9, 11:17 am, MU <efacsimi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:09:08 -0800 (PST), Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
PeterB - Original wrote:
MU wrote:
PeterB - Original wrote:
Bill who putters wrote:
"The latest issue of the Drug and Therapeutics Bulletin (DTB) reports
that the use of low-dose aspirin to protect against heart attacks and
strokes in individuals yet to develop obvious cardiovascular disease,
should be abandoned."
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/169546.php
I do not agree with low dose aspirin for anyone. Approximately 25% of
the population is aspirin sensitive, a potentially symptom free
condition that predisposes the individual to an *increased* risk of
MI. Proper intake of omega3 EFAs, vitamin C, B vitamins, and
magnesium will dramatically lower the risk of fatal cardiac events
without the risk of side effects.
Citations?
Thanks.
Search on "aspirin resistance" and you'll get thousands of articles,
many in pubmed.
Folks with aspirin resistance would require more aspirin and not less
to none for the benefit of lowering the risk of fatal cardiac events.
I'd add that he needs to search for the definition of "resistance" v.s.
intolerance or w/ever it is he's attempting to relate. I have no idea.
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I referred you to the medical literature in response to your query
because the subject is widely discussed there. Sorry I couldn't make
it easier for you. |
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| PeterB - Original... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 12:46 pm |
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On Nov 9, 11:13 am, MU <efacsimi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 21:48:39 -0800 (PST), PeterB - Original wrote:
On Nov 4, 9:06 am, MU <efacsimi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:46:45 -0800 (PST), PeterB - Original wrote:
On Nov 3, 12:30 pm, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <ach... at (no spam) emory.edu
wrote:
Bill who putters wrote:
"The latest issue of the Drug and Therapeutics Bulletin (DTB) reports
that the use of low-dose aspirin to protect against heart attacks and
strokes in individuals yet to develop obvious cardiovascular disease,
should be abandoned."
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/169546.php
I do not agree with low dose aspirin for anyone. Approximately 25% of
the population is aspirin sensitive, a potentially symptom free
condition that predisposes the individual to an *increased* risk of
MI. Proper intake of omega3 EFAs, vitamin C, B vitamins, and
magnesium will dramatically lower the risk of fatal cardiac events
without the risk of side effects.
Citations?
Thanks.
Search on "aspirin resistance" and you'll get thousands of articles,
many in pubmed.
What? Did you invent a mind-reading search engine?
[/quote]
Since I gave you the word string to use, that wouldn't be a logical
question, now would it?
[quote]I search for
"aspirin resistance" and get proofs that "proper intake of omega3
EFAs, vitamin C, B vitamins, and magnesium will dramatically
lower the risk of fatal cardiac events without the risk of side
effects." too?
[/quote]
The entirety of your query to me was the word "citations" with a
question mark. I suppose you expected me to read your mind in order
to know exactly which part of my comment you wanted a citation for?
Hint: you may need to do more than one search.
[quote]lol
Pass.[/quote] |
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