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| Barbara Carlson... |
 Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:36 am |
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As a SCUBA instructor I know a lot about ear pressure and the pain it can
cause. If a child is old enough to understand, you can prepare them in
advance. Tell them to swallow frequently as the plane is taking off and
reaching altitude, or hold their nose and blow GENTLY as if they were
blowing their nose. On landing the swallowing will still help, but don't do
the blow gently thing or you can make it worse. For children old enough to
chew gum give them some before takeoff or landing. For babies anything that
will make them swallow, so a bottle during take off or landing will help,
maybe a pacifier would help--don't know I never used them. Last couple of
SCUBA dives I have done I have had trouble clearing my left ear, so I know
what kind of pain it can cause. Pressurized cabins are only pressurized to
equivalent of an 8,000 foot altitude. An antihistamine before flight might
help, too, so the Benedryl might have a positive effect there, but I do NOT
believe in drugging children to get them through stressful situations. How
will they ever learn to cope. I flew with my youngest when he was just 6
weeks old. A thoughtful stewardess sat next to me during takeoff and
landing so I could discretely allow my baby to nurse.
It's the bratty kids whose parents make no effort whatsoever to keep their
children under control that upsets most of, and the attitude that reasonable
discipline is child abuse.
Barb C.
"kathycarp" <kathycarp at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote in message
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On Nov 1, 7:20 pm, Sandi <sandiwork... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 1, 10:19 pm, Sandi <sandiwork... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 1, 9:59 am, "Anne V" <ave... at (no spam) NOSPAMyahoo.com> wrote:
"Rae" <RaeMorr... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
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| They should ask their pediatrician for a sedative to keep them
quiet.
| Probably now that is considered child abuse, but there is no reason
| that makes it okay for everyone else to have to listen to that for
| hours on end with no way to escape it. They were right to throw them
| off the flight and they should not have refunded anything. If I were
| on a plane in that situation I'd probably go postal - I CANNOT stand
| hearing that noise.
Hmmmm....preflight Benadryl....
You're probably right about it being considered abusive, Rae, but it
actually doesn't sound like a bad idea to me! My younger daughter is
flying
home to Hawaii with my 2-year-old grandson in a couple of months, and
I know
she's absolutely dreading the flight. I may ask her if she's
considered
giving him some Benadryl before they leave.
Anne
I have a better idea. Drug yourself, and you won't care if there are
people under the age of 10 around.
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Or better yet! Why don't we just get pet carriers for the little
buggers and ship them with the luggage? Odds are, you won't hear them
screaming down there.
Sandi- Hide quoted text -
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LOL. Way to go Sandi. I have been sitting on my hands, chanting "I
will not post..." but I'm feeling a bit sassy tonight, (and it's not a
political topic) so here goes. I am usually on an airplane 3-4 trips a
year and my biggest nightmare is a child who is screaming with ear
pain. I'm talking about the cry that we all know. The I-can't-catch-my-
breath-because-I-am-in-so-much-pain cry. Tears me up because the child
is in PAIN and there's not a whole lot that can be done. As opposed to
the rambunctious/bored/fussy child, who can possibly be distracted.
Rather than complain about it, have any of you ever tried to lend a
helping hand? Not your job? Fine. Then sit there and listen to it, and
remember that what goes around comes around and karma's a bitch. When
you're old and alone, perhaps lost, in an airport, and youngins are
all ignoring you, remember that screaming kid and tired mom you could
have tried to help on the plane.
True story: Years ago, flying from Florida to Oregon - BIG plane, the
kind with the 8-10 seats across the middle section. There was a mom,
dad, and about a 10-month-old baby about 4 rows up from us, and across
the aisle. The plane hadn't taken off yet. The man sitting in front of
the mom (and baby on lap) whirled around in his seat and YELLED at the
mom - I SIMPLY *CANNOT* TOLERATE THE KICKING IN THE BACK OF THE SEAT!
The mom was so embarrassed. She apologized and tried to contain the
baby's feet, but he was wanting to squirm. The next time the man
turned around, I got out of my seat and walked up to him and said,
"Sir, would you like to trade seats with me." He looked at me like I
had lost my mind and said, "The kicking won't bother you?" I said,
"No, sir, it won't." He said, "But I'm traveling with my wife." I
said, "And I'm traveling with my husband. We'd both be happy to trade
with you." And so we did. When we were settled the mom and dad thanked
me profusely - and the baby went to sleep shortly after take off and
slept most of the way home. Don't get me wrong, I don't think the man
should have ignored the kicking, but he could have told her nicely
that the baby was kicking his seat. Flies. Sugar. Vinegar.
I feel sorry for the parent who has to travel with small kids, and I
reject the "leave 'em at home" philosophy. I'm (nearly) 60 years old
and I still remember kindnesses that were shown to me when my kids
were small. (Likewise the people who were kind to my mom when she was
confused and living in lala land and sometimes not socially
appropriate. She loved to go out to eat, but would stare
inappropriately at people, be a messy eater, and other things. Should
I have left her at home? It makes me sick to think that some people
would think "yes".) I know I have strayed a bit from the topic here,
but oh well.
Sandi, your post about putting them down with the luggage made me
laugh out loud. You probably said it in anger/frustration, but it
struck me funny.
K |
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| Marsha... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:35 pm |
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Sandi wrote:
[quote]I said it in complete seriousness, because the attitude displayed here
toward the "little monsters" is one that those same posters would
probably never consider displaying towards their pets.
Sandi
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And you would be wrong.
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| Marsha... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:38 pm |
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Barbara Carlson wrote:
[quote]It's the bratty kids whose parents make no effort whatsoever to keep their
children under control that upsets most of, and the attitude that reasonable
discipline is child abuse.
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Thank you. At least somebody gets it.
Marsha |
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| Samatha Hill -- take out TRASH to reply... |
| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:45 pm |
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Sandi wrote:
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Or better yet! Why don't we just get pet carriers for the little
buggers and ship them with the luggage? Odds are, you won't hear them
screaming down there.
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Problem with THAT solution is that if you start it, it will end up being
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