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| kT... |
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[quote]http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-me-qian-xuesen1-2009nov01,0,2865408.story
Heckava job Amurika, just a heckava job.
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Well, lets say it is realy remarkable:
Qian Xuesen dies at 98; rocket scientist helped establish Jet
Propulsion Laboratory
... a Chinese-born aeronautical engineer educated at Caltech and the
Massachusetts Institute of Technology, was credited with leading China
to launch intercontinental ballistic missiles, Silkworm anti-ship
missiles, weather and reconnaissance satellites and to put a human in
space in 2003.
... Sent to Germany to interrogate Nazi scientists, Qian interviewed
rocket scientist Wernher von Braun. As the trade magazine Aviation Week
put it in 2007, upon naming Qian its person of the year, "No one then
knew that the father of the future U.S. space program was being quizzed
by the father of the future Chinese space program."
... "It was the stupidest thing this country ever did," former Navy
Secretary Dan Kimball later said, according to Aviation Week. "He was
no more a Communist than I was, and we forced him to go."
SENECA
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| kT... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:55 pm |
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Jonathan wrote:
[quote]"kT" <cosmic at (no spam) lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:sXgHm.7793$rl7.7323 at (no spam) newsfe16.iad...
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-me-qian-xuesen1-2009nov01,0,2865408.story
Heckava job Amurika, just a heckava job.
That's 44.5 to 72 million ...Chinese murdered by the
Chinese Communist Party of Mao.
Second World War (1937-45):
55 million people killed
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So how many Americans did Qian Xuesen kill when he was in the states again? |
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| Jonathan... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:05 am |
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"kT" <cosmic at (no spam) lifeform.org> wrote in message
news:sXgHm.7793$rl7.7323 at (no spam) newsfe16.iad...
[quote]http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-me-qian-xuesen1-2009nov01,0,2865408.story
Heckava job Amurika, just a heckava job.
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People's Republic of China, Mao Zedong's regime (1949-1975):
40 million killed [make link]
a.. Agence France Press (25 Sept. 1999) citing at length from Courtois,
Stephane, Le Livre Noir du Communism:
a.. Rural purges, 1946-49: 2-5M deaths
b.. Urban purges, 1950-57: 1M
c.. Great Leap Forward: 20-43M
d.. Cultural Revolution: 2-7M
e.. Labor Camps: 20M
f.. Tibet: 0.6-1.2M
g..
h.. TOTAL: 44.5 to 72M
That's 44.5 to 72 million ...Chinese murdered by the
Chinese Communist Party of Mao.
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Second World War (1937-45):
55 milion people killed [make link]
a.. Total:
a.. Haywood: Atlas of World History (1997): 50M
b.. Keegan, J., The Second World War (1989): 50M
c.. Messenger, The Chronological Atlas of World War Two (1989): 50M
d.. The Times Concise Atlas of World History (1988): 50M
e.. J.M. Roberts, Twentieth Century (1999): >50M
f.. Urlanis: 50M
a.. Soldiers: 22.0M
b.. Civilians
a.. In camps, from Fascist terror: 12.0M
b.. From hostilites, blockade, epidemics, hunger: 14.5M
c.. From bombing: 1.5M
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| Jonathan... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:04 am |
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"kT" <cosmic at (no spam) lifeform.org> wrote in message news:zYMHm.62$xt7.4 at (no spam) newsfe18.iad...
[quote]
So how many Americans did Qian Xuesen kill when he was in the states again?
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"But his brilliant career in the United States came to a screeching halt
in 1950,"
There was something at stake. In 1950, just like TODAY, missile
technology remains at the top of the national security list of most dangerous
weapons of all. The mistake was letting him leave the country and take
everything he learned back to China, which he happily transferred it all
to the Chinese military. A military we were then ... at war.... with.
Korean War (1950-1953)
"Under the guise of counter-attacking a South Korean provocation
raid, the North Korean Army (KPA) crossed the 38th parallel,
behind artillery fire, at Sunday dawn of 25 June 1950."
"On 8 October 1950, the day after the US's northward crossing
of the 38th-parallel border into North Korea, Mao Zedong ordered
the People's Liberation Army's North East Frontier Force to be
reorganized into the Chinese People's Volunteer Army"
"In the War to Resist America and Aid Korea, the first
Chinese-American battles occurred on 1 November 1950;
deep in North Korea, thousands of PVA soldiers encircled
and attacked scattered UN Command units with three-prong
assaults-from the north, northwest, and west-and overran
the defensive-position flanks.[76] In the west, in late November,
along the Chongchon River, the PVA attacked and over-ran
several ROK Army divisions, and the flank of the remaining
UN forces.[37]:98-99 The UN Command retreated; the
US Eighth Army's retreat (longest in US Army history),
...."with some 15,000 collective casualties."
"The Korean War dead: US: 36,940 killed; PVA: 100,000-1,500,000
killed; most estimate some 400,000 killed; KPA: 214,000-520,000;
most estimate some 500,000. ROK: Civilian: some 245,000-415,000
killed; Total civilians killed some 1,500,000-3,000,000; most estimate
some 2,000,000 killed.[94]"
"The Korean War (1950-53) was the first proxy war in the Cold War
(1945-91), the prototype of the following sphere-of-influence wars,
e.g. the Vietnam War (1945-75). The Korean War established
proxy war as one way that the nuclear superpowers indirectly
conducted their rivalry in third-party countries."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War
The Effects of a Global Thermonuclear War
12:00 noon CDT 5 August 1988: Nuclear hostilities on a global scale
begin as the U.S.S.R. launches a preemptive strike. Over 1,000 Soviet
missiles--carrying 5,400 warheads--are launched as a counterforce strike
against the U.S. and its NATO allies.
12:00 midnight CDT 5/6 August 1988: The nuclear exchange is generally over.
In the U.S. 5,800 warheads detonated totaling 3,900 mt. Soviet and NATO
weapons successfully used in Europe numbered 3,300 (1,200 mt)
About 6,100 warheads exploded in the U.S.S.R. with a total yield of 1,900 mt.
Mainland China (P.R.C.) Other areas receiving at least a dozen warheads include
Canada, North and South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Greenland, Puerto Rico, India,
Israel, Australia, Guam, Cuba, Syria, and Egypt.
Altogether, World War III has involved the detonation of 18,000 warheads
with a total yield of 8,500 mt. Including tactical weapons, there were 67,000
nuclear weapons in the world a day ago; now, there are 10,000 left.
In the U.S. about 110,000,000 people have died altogether, with the135,000,000
survivors including 30,000,000 injured. In the U.S.S.R. about 40,000,000 have
been killed out of a pre-war population of 285,000,000. Mainland China has had
100,000,000 killed out of a population of 1,090,000,000. Examples of other
countries: United Kingdom, 20,000,000 killed (out of 57,000,000); Denmark,
2,700,000 killed (out of 5,100,000); Australia, 3,000,000 killed (out of
16,000,000). In Mexico over 3,000,000 have been killed, mostly in cities on the
border with the U.S.
Throughout the world about 400,000,000 have died.
http://www.johnstonsarchive.net/nuclear/nuclearwar1.html
I repeat, missile technology is on top of the threat list then, just as today.
Jonathan
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