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| chazwin... |
 Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:08 am |
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"Birthers"
I wonder how much of this Obama denial is a form of cryptic racism
which gives rise to a cognitive dissonance making certain sections of
the American public believe so readily in the stories that suggest
that Obama is not rightfully American. And I wonder if this section of
the populace is the same section that takes the story of Noah's flood
to be the literal truth.? |
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| tooly... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:09 pm |
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On Oct 31, 1:08 pm, chazwin <chazwy... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]"Birthers"
I wonder how much of this Obama denial is a form of cryptic racism
which gives rise to a cognitive dissonance making certain sections of
the American public believe so readily in the stories that suggest
that Obama is not rightfully American. And I wonder if this section of
the populace is the same section that takes the story of Noah's flood
to be the literal truth.?
[/quote]
He is NOT my president. He is an 'occupier' to me; an invader;
illegitimate; a product of marxist plotting for over five decades to
infiltrate, influence, persuade, install themselves as the 'Grand
March Through Our Institutions'. It all started with the Immigration
Act of 1965 that has been an 'end around' to democracy and the slow
takeover of 'MY' culture [the one created by my forebears and now
aliens who actually hate and seek to destroy it].
If you look at the demographics, you will find the democrat party
itself is now a party of anti-establishment, of insurrection, anti
everything the founders stood for [though they pay lip service as much
they have to, as they continue their grand march toward socialism].
It is no accident that the Conservative 'Red States' have dwindled
with the incursion of mass DISPARATE immigration [mostly hispanic] who
share little of the core values of what made this nation great, of the
identity of the euro establishment, or of the founding principles
except as the FREEDOM to undermine it. You can use whatever
'flagword' you want, but we are not stupid and understand when we have
been invaded, undermined, and taken over by alien 'minds'...such as
Obama who wants to 'transform America' to better parallel his
associate mentors...Karl Marx and Mao Tse Tung.
In his own words...he saught everything anti-American:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4EHmzslKLw
No...to me he is the enemy. |
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| Bret Cahill... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:55 pm |
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[quote]I wonder how much of this Obama denial
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Denial is correct and it undermines all the other GOP reactions to
Obama, i.e., buying ammo, arguing that Obama will lose in 2012 . . .
[quote]is a form of cryptic racism
which gives rise to a cognitive dissonance making certain sections of
the American public believe so readily in the stories that suggest
that Obama is not rightfully American.
[/quote]
No doubt racism plays a big role but it isn't always what you think.
Other factors include.
1. The name "Obama" doesn't sound like "Taft."
2. Obama has little of the decadence that characterises both major
party candidates.
[quote]And I wonder if this section of
the populace is the same section that takes the story of Noah's flood
to be the literal truth.?
[/quote]
There's broad overlap between all the winger dinger groups.
Bret Cahill |
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| chazwin... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:01 pm |
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"tooly" is a British synonym for prick.
Tooly is just the sort of wanker I am referring to.
Thank you for your predictable idiotic contribution.
On Nov 1, 12:09 am, tooly <rd... at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 31, 1:08 pm, chazwin <chazwy... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
"Birthers"
I wonder how much of this Obama denial is a form of cryptic racism
which gives rise to a cognitive dissonance making certain sections of
the American public believe so readily in the stories that suggest
that Obama is not rightfully American. And I wonder if this section of
the populace is the same section that takes the story of Noah's flood
to be the literal truth.?
He is NOT my president. He is an 'occupier' to me; an invader;
illegitimate; a product of marxist plotting for over five decades to
infiltrate, influence, persuade, install themselves as the 'Grand
March Through Our Institutions'. It all started with the Immigration
Act of 1965 that has been an 'end around' to democracy and the slow
takeover of 'MY' culture [the one created by my forebears and now
aliens who actually hate and seek to destroy it].
If you look at the demographics, you will find the democrat party
itself is now a party of anti-establishment, of insurrection, anti
everything the founders stood for [though they pay lip service as much
they have to, as they continue their grand march toward socialism].
It is no accident that the Conservative 'Red States' have dwindled
with the incursion of mass DISPARATE immigration [mostly hispanic] who
share little of the core values of what made this nation great, of the
identity of the euro establishment, or of the founding principles
except as the FREEDOM to undermine it. You can use whatever
'flagword' you want, but we are not stupid and understand when we have
been invaded, undermined, and taken over by alien 'minds'...such as
Obama who wants to 'transform America' to better parallel his
associate mentors...Karl Marx and Mao Tse Tung.
In his own words...he saught everything anti-American:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4EHmzslKLw
No...to me he is the enemy.[/quote] |
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| chazwin... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:03 pm |
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On Nov 1, 12:55 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah... at (no spam) peoplepc.com> wrote:
[quote]I wonder how much of this Obama denial
Denial is correct and it undermines all the other GOP reactions to
Obama, i.e., buying ammo, arguing that Obama will lose in 2012 . . .
is a form of cryptic racism
which gives rise to a cognitive dissonance making certain sections of
the American public believe so readily in the stories that suggest
that Obama is not rightfully American.
No doubt racism plays a big role but it isn't always what you think.
Other factors include.
1. The name "Obama" doesn't sound like "Taft."
2. Obama has little of the decadence that characterises both major
party candidates.
And I wonder if this section of
the populace is the same section that takes the story of Noah's flood
to be the literal truth.?
There's broad overlap between all the winger dinger groups.
Bret Cahill
[/quote]
I am so pleased to have my worst fears confirmed by "tooly" |
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| tooly... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:28 am |
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On Nov 2, 5:01 pm, chazwin <chazwy... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]"tooly" is a British synonym for prick.
Tooly is just the sort of wanker I am referring to.
Thank you for your predictable idiotic contribution.
On Nov 1, 12:09 am, tooly <rd... at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Oct 31, 1:08 pm, chazwin <chazwy... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
"Birthers"
I wonder how much of this Obama denial is a form of cryptic racism
which gives rise to a cognitive dissonance making certain sections of
the American public believe so readily in the stories that suggest
that Obama is not rightfully American. And I wonder if this section of
the populace is the same section that takes the story of Noah's flood
to be the literal truth.?
He is NOT my president. He is an 'occupier' to me; an invader;
illegitimate; a product of marxist plotting for over five decades to
infiltrate, influence, persuade, install themselves as the 'Grand
March Through Our Institutions'. It all started with the Immigration
Act of 1965 that has been an 'end around' to democracy and the slow
takeover of 'MY' culture [the one created by my forebears and now
aliens who actually hate and seek to destroy it].
If you look at the demographics, you will find the democrat party
itself is now a party of anti-establishment, of insurrection, anti
everything the founders stood for [though they pay lip service as much
they have to, as they continue their grand march toward socialism].
It is no accident that the Conservative 'Red States' have dwindled
with the incursion of mass DISPARATE immigration [mostly hispanic] who
share little of the core values of what made this nation great, of the
identity of the euro establishment, or of the founding principles
except as the FREEDOM to undermine it. You can use whatever
'flagword' you want, but we are not stupid and understand when we have
been invaded, undermined, and taken over by alien 'minds'...such as
Obama who wants to 'transform America' to better parallel his
associate mentors...Karl Marx and Mao Tse Tung.
In his own words...he saught everything anti-American:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4EHmzslKLw
No...to me he is the enemy.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
[/quote]
Yea, but the only comeback you guys have is to discredit the
messenger. You didn't address any of the points I made. The video
clip says it well I think. Obama saught out marxist professors. He
IS a marxist. He IS a radical...a revolutionary with a hidden agenda.
Look at his associations, his appointments, his writings, and now his
policies...it is as clear as a bell. He seeks to destroy the free
market system...push a path toward socialism that will be hard to
change once he is ousted from office.
We fought two wars to resist what he sells. If nothing else, I speak
for the war dead of those wars who 'once upon a time' saw his ilk as
the ENEMY. To me, he still is. |
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| tooly... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:35 am |
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On Nov 2, 5:03 pm, chazwin <chazwy... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 1, 12:55 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah... at (no spam) peoplepc.com> wrote:
I wonder how much of this Obama denial
Denial is correct and it undermines all the other GOP reactions to
Obama, i.e., buying ammo, arguing that Obama will lose in 2012 . . .
is a form of cryptic racism
which gives rise to a cognitive dissonance making certain sections of
the American public believe so readily in the stories that suggest
that Obama is not rightfully American.
No doubt racism plays a big role but it isn't always what you think.
Other factors include.
1. The name "Obama" doesn't sound like "Taft."
2. Obama has little of the decadence that characterises both major
party candidates.
And I wonder if this section of
the populace is the same section that takes the story of Noah's flood
to be the literal truth.?
There's broad overlap between all the winger dinger groups.
Bret Cahill
I am so pleased to have my worst fears confirmed by "tooly"- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
[/quote]
Oh come on. I really hope your cancer is gone and you are doing
well.
Really, I mean it. Get well. |
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| ZerkonXXXX... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:06 am |
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:08:04 -0700, chazwin wrote:
[quote]Listen Americans Obama IS black....
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To a black/white binary.
The statement... "Listen America, Obama IS white ..."
is equally as valid.
From what I gather, Obama's parents were from different racial groups so
he would not be all black or all white so both or neither.
[quote]I wonder how much of this Obama denial is a form of cryptic racism...
[/quote]
Here on this NG at least there is little need to wonder, is there? |
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| chazwin... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:05 am |
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On Nov 3, 1:06 pm, ZerkonXXXX <Z... at (no spam) erkonx.net> wrote:
[quote]On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:08:04 -0700, chazwin wrote:
Listen Americans Obama IS black....
To a black/white binary.
The statement... "Listen America, Obama IS white ..."
is equally as valid.
From what I gather, Obama's parents were from different racial groups so
he would not be all black or all white so both or neither.
I wonder how much of this Obama denial is a form of cryptic racism...
Here on this NG at least there is little need to wonder, is there?
[/quote]
That may well be true, he is either black and white or neither black
nor white. But I don't think the Birthers are willing to make that
distinction. |
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| chazwin... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:07 am |
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On Nov 3, 1:35 pm, tooly <rd... at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 2, 5:03 pm, chazwin <chazwy... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 1, 12:55 am, Bret Cahill <BretCah... at (no spam) peoplepc.com> wrote:
I wonder how much of this Obama denial
Denial is correct and it undermines all the other GOP reactions to
Obama, i.e., buying ammo, arguing that Obama will lose in 2012 . . .
is a form of cryptic racism
which gives rise to a cognitive dissonance making certain sections of
the American public believe so readily in the stories that suggest
that Obama is not rightfully American.
No doubt racism plays a big role but it isn't always what you think.
Other factors include.
1. The name "Obama" doesn't sound like "Taft."
2. Obama has little of the decadence that characterises both major
party candidates.
And I wonder if this section of
the populace is the same section that takes the story of Noah's flood
to be the literal truth.?
There's broad overlap between all the winger dinger groups.
Bret Cahill
I am so pleased to have my worst fears confirmed by "tooly"- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Oh come on. I really hope your cancer is gone and you are doing
well.
Really, I mean it. Get well.
[/quote]
Thanks. There are some serious health issues after radio- and chemo-
therapy that I will have rthe rest of my life, but -hell I am alive
and clear of cancer at the moment. |
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| chazwin... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:12 am |
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On Nov 3, 1:28 pm, tooly <rd... at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 2, 5:01 pm, chazwin <chazwy... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
"tooly" is a British synonym for prick.
Tooly is just the sort of wanker I am referring to.
Thank you for your predictable idiotic contribution.
On Nov 1, 12:09 am, tooly <rd... at (no spam) bellsouth.net> wrote:
On Oct 31, 1:08 pm, chazwin <chazwy... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
"Birthers"
I wonder how much of this Obama denial is a form of cryptic racism
which gives rise to a cognitive dissonance making certain sections of
the American public believe so readily in the stories that suggest
that Obama is not rightfully American. And I wonder if this section of
the populace is the same section that takes the story of Noah's flood
to be the literal truth.?
He is NOT my president. He is an 'occupier' to me; an invader;
illegitimate; a product of marxist plotting for over five decades to
infiltrate, influence, persuade, install themselves as the 'Grand
March Through Our Institutions'. It all started with the Immigration
Act of 1965 that has been an 'end around' to democracy and the slow
takeover of 'MY' culture [the one created by my forebears and now
aliens who actually hate and seek to destroy it].
If you look at the demographics, you will find the democrat party
itself is now a party of anti-establishment, of insurrection, anti
everything the founders stood for [though they pay lip service as much
they have to, as they continue their grand march toward socialism].
It is no accident that the Conservative 'Red States' have dwindled
with the incursion of mass DISPARATE immigration [mostly hispanic] who
share little of the core values of what made this nation great, of the
identity of the euro establishment, or of the founding principles
except as the FREEDOM to undermine it. You can use whatever
'flagword' you want, but we are not stupid and understand when we have
been invaded, undermined, and taken over by alien 'minds'...such as
Obama who wants to 'transform America' to better parallel his
associate mentors...Karl Marx and Mao Tse Tung.
In his own words...he saught everything anti-American:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4EHmzslKLw
No...to me he is the enemy.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yea, but the only comeback you guys have is to discredit the
messenger. You didn't address any of the points I made. The video
clip says it well I think. Obama saught out marxist professors. He
IS a marxist. He IS a radical...a revolutionary with a hidden agenda.
Look at his associations, his appointments, his writings, and now his
policies...it is as clear as a bell. He seeks to destroy the free
market system...push a path toward socialism that will be hard to
change once he is ousted from office.
We fought two wars to resist what he sells. If nothing else, I speak
for the war dead of those wars who 'once upon a time' saw his ilk as
the ENEMY. To me, he still is.
[/quote]
Thats okay. Its good to be a Marxist. Marx was one of the most
important economists of the 19thC. You can understand Marx without
wanting to impose communism. Marx is also good for his anti-
establishment scepticism, which is vital to anyone wanting to
understand the nature of power/money relations at the top echelons of
society and the discourse of exploitation.
Additionally Marxian Economic and Social theory has made, and is still
making important contributions to learning and has completely outgrown
its 19thC origins. If you think he is your enemy then you are either
confused or ignorant of him and Marxian discourse.
Did you ever spend anytime in College? |
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