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| Y.Porat... |
 Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:35 am |
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On Nov 2, 6:25 pm, "hanson" <han... at (no spam) quick.net> wrote:
[quote]Mel schLep "mL" <mL.bey... at (no spam) elsewhere.xxx> wrote:
hanson skrev:
ahahahaha... AHAHAHA....For "mL" <mL.bey... at (no spam) elsewhere.xxx
Mel Lep, it was beyond belief when he read and wrote:
hanson wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/yjlxhtd> --> Barycenter --- KW
http://tinyurl.com/yjbpwrh> -- <|||| d^2(1/rho)/dt^2 -> G ||||
Raemsch, if you wish to sell your weltbild about the issue then
produce some math about it. Start with |||| d^2(1/rho)/dt^2 -> G ||||
This says ~ that the spatial acceleration, (dt^2) of expansion or
contraction, of matter content in normal 3D space , expressed
here as reciprocal density, 1/rho, will asymptotically default to
the numerical value of Newton's G... producing our regular physics
phenomena as we know them.
1st clumsy fishing attempt by Mel Lep, the schlep, who wrote:
Funny fantasies, but please continue.
hanson wrote:
Show examples of this along the way and you'll demonstrate
mathematically that there is no matter content within a the
confines of a so-called black hole. To connect this to the bary-
center of the particles/bodies that make up this spatial domain
is the next step. Show the math. Don't lament.... ahahahanson
2nd attempt by schLep, who wrote:
Why don't you do the derivation yourself? Are you
so scared of math that you ask characters like KW
and Raemsch for help?
hanson wrote:
ahahahaha... You committed a Freudian Slip here, schLep!
ahahaha... Do it instead of asking the gauche way, like you
just did.
3rd fishing attempt by schLep, who wrote:> Why should I? It's your baby, lazybones!
hanson wrote:
What fantasy makes you think it's MY baby?... ahahaha...
You don't know much, Mel, do you. Keep on schLeping
hanson wrote
:> > schLep, you obviously do not even understand the concept> > so why should I throw my pearls before the swine that you
are?... Try harder, schLep. Till then thanks for the laughs...
ahahahanson
4th pitiful fishing attempt by schLep, who wrote:> A pearl for you, hanson:
Look up KAM theory (and its extensions), digest it, and move on.
hanson wrote:
ahahaha... schLep, you phonily insinuated that you have digested
KAM. Yet the trivial expression |||| d^2(1/rho)/dt^2 -> G |||| strikes
you as fantasy... ahahahaha... Mel, you don't know much, do you.
ahahahahaha... But thanks for the laughs... ahaha ahahahanson
[/quote]
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Hi Hanson !
can you give me a hand to find out
who are the anonymous crooks
''Inertial''
and '''Aleph'' ??
TIA
Y.Porat
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| eric gisse... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:16 am |
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Juan R. González-Álvarez wrote:
[quote]Sam Wormley wrote on Sun, 01 Nov 2009 21:27:32 +0000:
eric gisse wrote:
Juan R. González-Álvarez wrote:
[...]
I greatly enjoy the superposition of you arguing with someone who has a
PhD in physics about how the person with a PhD doesn't know what he is
talking about.
I find that amusing also!
It is much more amusing that both you and Eric sniped the part where he
'PhD' [#] affirms that he does not even know what is the "relaxed form" of
Einstein equations! 
[/quote]
Which is indicative of what, exactly?
[quote]
And, of course, both of you sniped the link to the Living Review journal
containing the equations that neither him nor both of you know
[/quote]
It is perfectly clear you picked the first link off Google, but didn't even
bother to check the contents of the link.
[quote]
[#] i.e. the same HEP experimentalist who has said *pearls* such as his
[#claim
that c and G are not universal constants in GR but parameters
[/quote]
And your rationale for getting bitchy at a perfectly valid claim is...?
[quote]
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/0295a373a580782e
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/msg/94c04b345f963eac
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| Nick |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:16 am |
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On Nov 2, 8:35 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 2, 6:25 pm, "hanson" <han... at (no spam) quick.net> wrote:
Mel schLep "mL" <mL.bey... at (no spam) elsewhere.xxx> wrote:
hanson skrev:
ahahahaha... AHAHAHA....For "mL" <mL.bey... at (no spam) elsewhere.xxx
Mel Lep, it was beyond belief when he read and wrote:
hanson wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/yjlxhtd> --> Barycenter --- KW
http://tinyurl.com/yjbpwrh> -- <|||| d^2(1/rho)/dt^2 -> G ||||
Raemsch, if you wish to sell your weltbild about the issue then
produce some math about it. Start with |||| d^2(1/rho)/dt^2 -> G ||||
This says ~ that the spatial acceleration, (dt^2) of expansion or
contraction, of matter content in normal 3D space , expressed
here as reciprocal density, 1/rho, will asymptotically default to
the numerical value of Newton's G... producing our regular physics
phenomena as we know them.
1st clumsy fishing attempt by Mel Lep, the schlep, who wrote:
Funny fantasies, but please continue.
hanson wrote:
Show examples of this along the way and you'll demonstrate
mathematically that there is no matter content within a the
confines of a so-called black hole. To connect this to the bary-
center of the particles/bodies that make up this spatial domain
is the next step. Show the math. Don't lament.... ahahahanson
2nd attempt by schLep, who wrote:
Why don't you do the derivation yourself? Are you
so scared of math that you ask characters like KW
and Raemsch for help?
hanson wrote:
ahahahaha... You committed a Freudian Slip here, schLep!
ahahaha... Do it instead of asking the gauche way, like you
just did.
3rd fishing attempt by schLep, who wrote:> Why should I? It's your baby, lazybones!
hanson wrote:
What fantasy makes you think it's MY baby?... ahahaha...
You don't know much, Mel, do you. Keep on schLeping
hanson wrote
:> > schLep, you obviously do not even understand the concept> > so why should I throw my pearls before the swine that you
are?... Try harder, schLep. Till then thanks for the laughs...
ahahahanson
4th pitiful fishing attempt by schLep, who wrote:> A pearl for you, hanson:
Look up KAM theory (and its extensions), digest it, and move on.
hanson wrote:
ahahaha... schLep, you phonily insinuated that you have digested
KAM. Yet the trivial expression |||| d^2(1/rho)/dt^2 -> G |||| strikes
you as fantasy... ahahahaha... Mel, you don't know much, do you.
ahahahahaha... But thanks for the laughs... ahaha ahahahanson
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Hi Hanson !
can you give me a hand to find out
who are the anonymous crooks
''Inertial''
and '''Aleph'' ??
TIA
Y.Porat
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Limited gravity. Acceleratiuon is limited to below light speed at the
extreme of the strength of gravity. Limted gravity prevents black hole
theory.
Mitch Raemsch |
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| eric gisse... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:21 am |
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Juan R. González-Álvarez wrote:
[quote]eric gisse wrote on Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:28:02 -0800:
Juan R. González-Álvarez wrote:
[...]
I greatly enjoy the superposition of you arguing with someone who has a
PhD in physics about how the person with a PhD doesn't know what he is
talking about.
That is one of your problems. You believed that your idiocy would be cured
by obtaining a degree. You believed yui would buy respect. You failed in
your goal and left University this Summer being an *undergrad*.
But even if you had obtained a higher degree, this would not hide the lot
of nonsenses that you have been posting in Internet for years :_-D
http://canonicalscience.blogspot.com/2008/08/some-samples-of-usenet-fauna-
ii.html
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I struggle to understand how this is supposed to make you look good. |
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| mL... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:31 am |
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hanson skrev:
[quote]
ahahahaha... AHAHAHA....For "mL" <mL.beyond at (no spam) elsewhere.xxx> Mel Lep, it
was beyond belief when he read and wrote:
hanson:
hanson wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/yjlxhtd> --> Barycenter --- KW
http://tinyurl.com/yjbpwrh> -- <|||| d^2(1/rho)/dt^2 -> G ||||
Raemsch, if you wish to sell your weltbild about the issue then
produce some math about it. Start with |||| d^2(1/rho)/dt^2 -> G ||||
This says ~ that the spatial acceleration, (dt^2) of expansion or
contraction, of matter content in normal 3D space , expressed
here as reciprocal density, 1/rho, will asymptotically default to
the numerical value of Newton's G... producing our regular physics
phenomena as we know them.
1st clumsy fishing attempt by Mel Lep, the schlep, who wrote:
Funny fantasies, but please continue.
hanson wrote:
Show examples of this along the way and you'll demonstrate
mathematically that there is no matter content within a the
confines of a so-called black hole. To connect this to the bary-
center of the particles/bodies that make up this spatial domain
is the next step. Show the math. Don't lament.... ahahahanson
2nd attempt by schLep, who wrote:
Why don't you do the derivation yourself? Are you
so scared of math that you ask characters like KW
and Raemsch for help?
hanson wrote:
ahahahaha... You committed a Freudian Slip here, schLep!
ahahaha... Do it instead of asking the gauche way, like you
just did.
[/quote]
Why should I? It's your baby, lazybones!
[quote]You obviously do not even understand the concept
schLep, so why should I throw my pearls before the swine that
your are?... Try harder, schLep. Till then thanks for the laughs...
ahahahanson
[/quote]
A pearl for you, hanson:
Look up KAM theory (and its extensions), digest it, and move on.
/ mel |
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| mL... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:36 am |
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Koobee Wublee:
[quote]On Nov 1, 8:09 am, mL <mL.bey... at (no spam) elsewhere.xxx> wrote:
Koobee Wublee wrote:
I don't know and don't care either. Why would I care about or hate a
nitwit, a plagiarist, and a liar? GR is absurd, and it had nothing to
do with Einstein the nitwit, the plagiarist, and the liar. Einstein
the nitwit, the plagiarist, and the liar was nobody. <shrug
Ahahahaha... Does it look like I am obsessed with Einstein the
nitwit, the plagiarist, and the liar? No, that is why I label
Einstein the nitwit, the plagiarist, and the liar as a nitwit, a
plagiarist, and a liar. <shrug
[/quote]
Gosh - no need to comment.
[quote]You, on the other hand, get all bend out of shape reading Einstein as
a nitwit, a plagiarist, and a liar. The question is that why you
worship Einstein the nitwit, the plagiarist, and the liar. <shrug
[/quote]
Me upset by your make ups and screwed opinions there? No.
How about you? Do you realize that those stinky labels
may be too sticky for you to handle (as indicated by your
reactive shruggings).
[quote]BTW Mr Koobee, in case you see yourself as something more
than a nobody, what's your achievements in science matters
such as:
- published science papers
The first step is to publish my post at where trolls like Gisse, Dono,
moortel, Webb, Juanshito, mL, and many others are off limit. However,
these Einstein Dingleberries just would not allow anything to be
published. In time, I will publish some papers. Would that satisfy
your whining for the time being?
[/quote]
So, you haven't taken that first step yet. Poor background
for a judge on science matter!
[quote]- professional career
Does the ever so humble Koobee Wublee have a professional career?
- appreciation of fellow scientists
I don't appreciate anyone worshipping a nitwit, a plagiarist, and a
liar such as Einstein the nitwit, the plagiarist, and the liar. Is
that too much to ask?
[/quote]
Got a limited repertoire Mr Koobee. |
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| eric gisse... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:31 am |
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Koobee Wublee wrote:
[...]
[quote]
The first step is to publish my post at where trolls like Gisse, Dono,
moortel, Webb, Juanshito, mL, and many others are off limit. However,
these Einstein Dingleberries just would not allow anything to be
published. In time, I will publish some papers. Would that satisfy
your whining for the time being?
[/quote]
You can't even give a literature reference, much less write a scholarly
article.
[quote]
- professional career
Does the ever so humble Koobee Wublee have a professional career?
- appreciation of fellow scientists
I don't appreciate anyone worshipping a nitwit, a plagiarist, and a
liar such as Einstein the nitwit, the plagiarist, and the liar. Is
that too much to ask?[/quote] |
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| hanson... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:25 am |
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Mel schLep "mL" <mL.beyond at (no spam) elsewhere.xxx> wrote:
[quote]hanson skrev:
ahahahaha... AHAHAHA....For "mL" <mL.beyond at (no spam) elsewhere.xxx
Mel Lep, it was beyond belief when he read and wrote:
hanson wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/yjlxhtd> --> Barycenter --- KW
http://tinyurl.com/yjbpwrh> -- <|||| d^2(1/rho)/dt^2 -> G ||||
Raemsch, if you wish to sell your weltbild about the issue then
produce some math about it. Start with |||| d^2(1/rho)/dt^2 -> G ||||
This says ~ that the spatial acceleration, (dt^2) of expansion or
contraction, of matter content in normal 3D space , expressed
here as reciprocal density, 1/rho, will asymptotically default to
the numerical value of Newton's G... producing our regular physics
phenomena as we know them.
1st clumsy fishing attempt by Mel Lep, the schlep, who wrote:
Funny fantasies, but please continue.
hanson wrote:
Show examples of this along the way and you'll demonstrate
mathematically that there is no matter content within a the
confines of a so-called black hole. To connect this to the bary-
center of the particles/bodies that make up this spatial domain
is the next step. Show the math. Don't lament.... ahahahanson
2nd attempt by schLep, who wrote:
Why don't you do the derivation yourself? Are you
so scared of math that you ask characters like KW
and Raemsch for help?
hanson wrote:
ahahahaha... You committed a Freudian Slip here, schLep!
ahahaha... Do it instead of asking the gauche way, like you
just did.
3rd fishing attempt by schLep, who wrote:
Why should I? It's your baby, lazybones!
hanson wrote:[/quote]
What fantasy makes you think it's MY baby?... ahahaha...
You don't know much, Mel, do you. Keep on schLeping
[quote]
hanson wrote
:> > schLep, you obviously do not even understand the concept
so why should I throw my pearls before the swine that you
are?... Try harder, schLep. Till then thanks for the laughs...
ahahahanson
4th pitiful fishing attempt by schLep, who wrote:
A pearl for you, hanson:
Look up KAM theory (and its extensions), digest it, and move on.
hanson wrote:[/quote]
ahahaha... schLep, you phonily insinuated that you have digested
KAM. Yet the trivial expression |||| d^2(1/rho)/dt^2 -> G |||| strikes
you as fantasy... ahahahaha... Mel, you don't know much, do you.
ahahahahaha... But thanks for the laughs... ahaha ahahahanson |
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| hanson... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:21 pm |
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Yehiel "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
in message news:19a10a48-be0e-46b4-b25a-
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Hi Hanson !
can you give me a hand to find out
who are the anonymous crooks
''Inertial'' and '''Aleph'' ??
TIA
Y.Porat
-------------------------------
hanson wrote:
.... ahahahaha... ALWAYS, Yehi, always assume that it
is old Mike Varney. Right or wrong, it cranks the shit
out of him and them. Take care old buddy.. ahahahanson |
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| mL... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 1:45 pm |
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hanson skrev:
[quote]Mel schLep "mL" <mL.beyond at (no spam) elsewhere.xxx> wrote:
hanson skrev:
ahahahaha... AHAHAHA....For "mL" <mL.beyond at (no spam) elsewhere.xxx> Mel Lep,
it was beyond belief when he read and wrote:
hanson wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/yjlxhtd> --> Barycenter --- KW
http://tinyurl.com/yjbpwrh> -- <|||| d^2(1/rho)/dt^2 -> G ||||
Raemsch, if you wish to sell your weltbild about the issue then
produce some math about it. Start with |||| d^2(1/rho)/dt^2 -> G ||||
This says ~ that the spatial acceleration, (dt^2) of expansion or
contraction, of matter content in normal 3D space , expressed
here as reciprocal density, 1/rho, will asymptotically default to
the numerical value of Newton's G... producing our regular physics
phenomena as we know them.
1st clumsy fishing attempt by Mel Lep, the schlep, who wrote:
Funny fantasies, but please continue.
hanson wrote:
Show examples of this along the way and you'll demonstrate
mathematically that there is no matter content within a the
confines of a so-called black hole. To connect this to the bary-
center of the particles/bodies that make up this spatial domain
is the next step. Show the math. Don't lament.... ahahahanson
2nd attempt by schLep, who wrote:
Why don't you do the derivation yourself? Are you
so scared of math that you ask characters like KW
and Raemsch for help?
hanson wrote:
ahahahaha... You committed a Freudian Slip here, schLep!
ahahaha... Do it instead of asking the gauche way, like you
just did.
3rd fishing attempt by schLep, who wrote:
Why should I? It's your baby, lazybones!
hanson wrote:
What fantasy makes you think it's MY baby?... ahahaha...
You don't know much, Mel, do you. Keep on schLeping
[/quote]
That's right, deny all responsibility.
[quote]
hanson wrote
:> > schLep, you obviously do not even understand the concept
so why should I throw my pearls before the swine that you
are?... Try harder, schLep. Till then thanks for the laughs...
ahahahanson
4th pitiful fishing attempt by schLep, who wrote:
A pearl for you, hanson:
Look up KAM theory (and its extensions), digest it, and move on.
hanson wrote:
ahahaha... schLep, you phonily insinuated that you have digested KAM.
Yet the trivial expression |||| d^2(1/rho)/dt^2 -> G |||| strikes you
as fantasy... ahahahaha... Mel, you don't know much, do you.
ahahahahaha... But thanks for the laughs... ahaha ahahahanson
[/quote]
Why not d^2(1/rho)/dt^2 -> f(alpha)G, where alpha is the
fine-structure constant, or some dimensionless quantity
appearing in your (still living?) aether approach?
/ mel |
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| spudnik... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:16 pm |
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"empirically known ration?" yeah;
depends upon how you define the word,
that is more powerful than its anagram(s)!
[quote]that sifts it out of the mix of matter/antimatter. Empirically, it is known
that there is a ratio of, IIRC, 10^7 - 10^10 more matter then antimatter
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thus:
you're implying that "Heawood's mistaken proof" was actually correct,
iff you've proven the four-color theorem?
[quote]It's always possible to give triangle numbers so that all vertices have a vertex number of 0. It's Heawood's equivalent formulation of the 4 color theorem ( Heawood's vertex character on the dual of a cubic map).
But does there exist a proof or disproof for the following statement:
Given all the 2^(2v-4) combinations of triangle numbers, then any set of v-2 vertex numbers has all the 3^(v-2) different combinations of vertex numbers if the two missing vertices are adjacent?
[/quote]
--McSudan Crusades for carbon credits!?! |
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| Y.y.Porat... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:22 pm |
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On Nov 2, 7:21 pm, "hanson" <han... at (no spam) quick.net> wrote:
[quote]Yehiel "Y.Porat" <y.y.po... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
in message news:19a10a48-be0e-46b4-b25a-
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Hi Hanson !
can you give me a hand to find out
who are the anonymous crooks
''Inertial'' and '''Aleph'' ??
TIA
Y.Porat
-------------------------------hanson wrote:
... ahahahaha... ALWAYS, Yehi, always assume that it
is old Mike Varney. Right or wrong, it cranks the shit
out of him and them. Take care old buddy.. ahahahanson
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Thanks Hanson
that is as well what i thought
ATB
Y.Porat
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| Inertial... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:54 am |
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"Y.y.Porat" <y.y.porat at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:572eefd2-e872-400c-8acc-426c0e5b8c6e at (no spam) g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
[quote]On Nov 2, 7:21 pm, "hanson" <han... at (no spam) quick.net> wrote:
Yehiel "Y.Porat" <y.y.po... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
in message news:19a10a48-be0e-46b4-b25a-
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Hi Hanson !
can you give me a hand to find out
who are the anonymous crooks
''Inertial'' and '''Aleph'' ??
TIA
Y.Porat
-------------------------------hanson wrote:
... ahahahaha... ALWAYS, Yehi, always assume that it
is old Mike Varney. Right or wrong, it cranks the shit
out of him and them. Take care old buddy.. ahahahanson
Thanks Hanson
that is as well what i thought
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Who is Mike Varney, and why is Porat so obsessed with him that he keeps
hoping this Varney person has returned? Were they lovers? |
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| Nick |
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On Nov 3, 11:19 am, Sam Wormley <sworml... at (no spam) mchsi.com> wrote:
[quote]Sam Wormley wrote:
Inertial wrote:
Who is Mike Varney, and why is Porat so obsessed with him that he
keeps hoping this Varney person has returned? Were they lovers?
Mike is a PhD physicist that doesn't suffer fools gladly.
It is a lot of fun when Mike pops in to visit the newsgroup
now and then!
Maybe, just maybe, Mike is here now!
[/quote]
Black holes don't happen in the aether. We are seeing the extreme but
not them at all.
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| Sam Wormley... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:27 pm |
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Inertial wrote:
[quote]"Y.y.Porat" <y.y.porat at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:572eefd2-e872-400c-8acc-426c0e5b8c6e at (no spam) g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 2, 7:21 pm, "hanson" <han... at (no spam) quick.net> wrote:
Yehiel "Y.Porat" <y.y.po... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
in message news:19a10a48-be0e-46b4-b25a-
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Hi Hanson !
can you give me a hand to find out
who are the anonymous crooks
''Inertial'' and '''Aleph'' ??
TIA
Y.Porat
-------------------------------hanson wrote:
... ahahahaha... ALWAYS, Yehi, always assume that it
is old Mike Varney. Right or wrong, it cranks the shit
out of him and them. Take care old buddy.. ahahahanson
Thanks Hanson
that is as well what i thought
Who is Mike Varney, and why is Porat so obsessed with him that he keeps
hoping this Varney person has returned? Were they lovers?
[/quote]
Mike is a PhD physicist that doesn't suffer fools gladly.
It is a lot of fun when Mike pops in to visit the newsgroup
now and then! |
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