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| Andrew W... |
 Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:19 pm |
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HVAC wrote:
[quote]"Andrew W" <removethis_ajwerner at (no spam) optushome.com.au> wrote in message
news:4aeb8067$0$6093$afc38c87 at (no spam) news.optusnet.com.au...
Just because you can't handle those concepts...
The earth being round and rotating around the sun used to be
considered very fringe.
Yet it was science that discovered this. Using scientific methods.
NOT metaphysics.
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Most of what makes planets and stars rotate and stay together (gravity etc)
is metaphysics (beyond the physical).
Einstein and others used metaphysics.
Goes to show how little you know about everything.
[quote]
So did going to the moon.
Yet it was science that got us there. Using scientific methods.
NOT metaphysics.
They are now fact.
You guys still continue to cling to the old school hard science
attitudes.
These 'hard science attitudes' has allowed us to move out of
the dark ages of pseudo-science, superstition and 'metaphysics'.
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And yet science is moving more and more towards metaphysics with quantum
mechanics to name just one area.
I can see that you don't know much about what metaphysics means or entails.
Please come back after you have educated yourself.
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That's getting very old.
The facts regarding ufos is unfortunately going to take a bit longer
to come out due to the very sticky military secrecy and politics
issues. The problem here is you guys only believe in the physical
methodical
sciences. That's only 50% of the science field. The other 50% is the
metaphysical sciences. That's the new emerging science model.
I hope not. Not in this country anyway. Those who allow religion and
metaphysics to cloud the truth will eventually be Darwined out.
They will be tossed into the scrapheap of history, along with those
who pray for god to change the weather and those who rattle beads to
ward off evil spirits.
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Oh brother. The ignorance.
Sorry, but many of the scientists moving into this field are in America. I
listed some.
You and george etc. are still living in the fifties.
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| Andrew W... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:24 pm |
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george wrote:
[quote]On Oct 31, 1:53 pm, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer... at (no spam) optushome.com.au
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Just off the top of my head regading the metaphysical sciences field
there is -
Albert Einstein
Appeal to authority. Mistaking his quotes as science
Dr. Micho Kaku
Theoretical multiuniverse claims
Dr Bruce Lipton
Kook. Makes the claim that red blood cells have a nucleus
Greg Braden
Gregg Braden (Greg Braden) uses spurious science and contrived
biblical references to back up his spiritual theories.
Among the earliest in the metaphysical sciences was Aristotle.
Before Aristotle (and some claim well after) there was no scientific
method and therfore no science.
Among the scientific ufo field is -
Prof. John Mack (late)
Believed in tales of alien abduction.
J. Allen Hynek
Was consultant astronomer to Project Bluebook. Obsessed
Dr. Micho Kaku to some extent
The possibility of mutliuniverses doesn't mean little green men.
You've mentioned him twice
Dr Kevin Randle
Conspiracy kook. Buyabook
And more.
The list I posted the other day has others, plus there are further
ones I could dig up.
Yes and all of them will have the same or lesser credentials than
those you have already posted
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Dumb American.
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enough. If you believe something too much then you have the same
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| Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A.... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:46 am |
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On Oct 22, 6:37 pm, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer... at (no spam) optushome.com.au>
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[quote]"Hagar" <ha... at (no spam) sahm.name> wrote in message
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"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie... at (no spam) zzz.com> wrote in
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EX-GI CLAIMS THE ARMY TRACKED UFOs ON RADAR AS EARLY AS 1942
All this proves, LipFlapper, is that people in the Military, who are
stationed
at desolate outposts, have the tendency to take a nip of 'shine now and
then,
which causes them to see things which aren't really there ... sort of like
the
"pink elephant" of myth.
Case closed.
What about airforce pilots and senior military officials while they're on
duty or in flight?
Are you saying they were all drinking?
Can you drink and fly a fighter jet at the same time?
Can senior officials keep getting away with drinking while on duty?
What are you saying exactly?
[/quote]
Don't try and reason with the debunkers, they have no use for
civilized discussions.
It has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that debunkers fall into
3 main categories:
#1) Burned-out retired intel, agents such as "H"eroin, O-BORG, and
Borsch;
#2) Drunkards and drug-addicts such as Cujo, Sludge and Twit;
#3) Mentally retarded kids who are confined to their cells, such as
Hagar, U-Bob and Wider Sham.
These mental midgets are easily dismissed and are of no use to
civilized society. In the near future we can just toss them into a
nice new FEMA camp, for their own protection!
As of now, debunkers are BANNED from these newsgroups, but we may let
them post so we can monitor their truth-terror activities.
Sir ARtiØ |
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| Cujo DeSockpuppet... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:21 am |
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"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <science at (no spam) zzz.com> wrote in
news:c871b4ad-70e9-41be-a385-daa5ff135cd3 at (no spam) i12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
[quote]On Oct 22, 6:37 pm, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer... at (no spam) optushome.com.au
wrote:
"Hagar" <ha... at (no spam) sahm.name> wrote in message
news:u5Kdne5-t6bxSH3XnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com...
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie... at (no spam) zzz.com> wrote in
message
news:0aefb444-3e61-4ac4-b113-0b088605322f at (no spam) g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com
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EX-GI CLAIMS THE ARMY TRACKED UFOs ON RADAR AS EARLY AS 1942
All this proves, LipFlapper, is that people in the Military, who
are stationed
at desolate outposts, have the tendency to take a nip of 'shine now
and then,
which causes them to see things which aren't really there ... sort
of l
ike
the
"pink elephant" of myth.
Case closed.
What about airforce pilots and senior military officials while
they're on duty or in flight?
Are you saying they were all drinking?
Can you drink and fly a fighter jet at the same time?
Can senior officials keep getting away with drinking while on duty?
What are you saying exactly?
Don't try and reason with the debunkers, they have no use for
civilized discussions.
It has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that debunkers fall into
3 main categories:
#1) Burned-out retired intel, agents such as "H"eroin, O-BORG, and
Borsch;
#2) Drunkards and drug-addicts such as Cujo, Sludge and Twit;
#3) Mentally retarded kids who are confined to their cells, such as
Hagar, U-Bob and Wider Sham.
These mental midgets are easily dismissed and are of no use to
civilized society. In the near future we can just toss them into a
nice new FEMA camp, for their own protection!
As of now, debunkers are BANNED from these newsgroups, but we may let
them post so we can monitor their truth-terror activities.
[/quote]
I claim ownership of the Artie/Gary sock.
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Cujo - The Official Overseer of Kooks and Trolls in dfw.*,
alt.paranormal, alt.astrology and alt.astrology.metapsych. Supreme Holy
Overlord of alt.fucknozzles. Winner of the 8/2000, 2/2003 & 4/2007 HL&S
award. July 2005 Hammer of Thor. Winning Trainer - Barbara Woodhouse
Memorial Dog Whistle - 12/2005 & 4/2008. COOSN-266-06-01895.
"Few things suppress female sexuality more than a flaccid dick and a guy
talking like Mickey Mouse while wearing panties on his head." - Phoenix
describing Ed "Pantyhead" Wollmann in one sentence. |
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| george... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:45 am |
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On Nov 1, 3:55 pm, vtcapo <vtc... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]George is exactly that, one of those dumb Americans. He has absolutely
nothing to offer unless it comes out of a book. He doesn't do any UFO
or para-normal research and acts like he's an expert. I've dismissed
him just like Tholen. He is most likely gov'mnt cheese. Bought and
paid for.......
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You really enjoy being wrong don't you..
So far you're 100% in error.
To repeat.
A UFO is an Unidentified Flying Object.
It is NOT an alien spacecraft |
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| vtcapo... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:52 am |
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On Nov 1, 2:45 pm, george <gbl... at (no spam) hnpl.net> wrote:
[quote]On Nov 1, 3:55 pm, vtcapo <vtc... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
George is exactly that, one of those dumb Americans. He has absolutely
nothing to offer unless it comes out of a book. He doesn't do any UFO
or para-normal research and acts like he's an expert. I've dismissed
him just like Tholen. He is most likely gov'mnt cheese. Bought and
paid for.......
You really enjoy being wrong don't you..
So far you're 100% in error.
To repeat.
A UFO is an Unidentified Flying Object.
It is NOT an alien spacecraft
A UFO is an Unidentified Flying Object.
[/quote]
Correct
[quote]It is NOT an alien spacecraft
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Sometimes...
RT |
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| Andrew W... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:23 pm |
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vtcapo wrote:
[quote]On Oct 31, 10:24 pm, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer... at (no spam) optushome.com.au
wrote:
george wrote:
On Oct 31, 1:53 pm, "Andrew W"
removethis_ajwer... at (no spam) optushome.com.au> wrote:
Just off the top of my head regading the metaphysical sciences
field there is -
Albert Einstein Appeal to authority. Mistaking his quotes as
science Dr. Micho Kaku Theoretical multiuniverse claims
Dr Bruce Lipton
Kook. Makes the claim that red blood cells have a nucleus
Greg Braden
Gregg Braden (Greg Braden) uses spurious science and contrived
biblical references to back up his spiritual theories.
Among the earliest in the metaphysical sciences was Aristotle.
Before Aristotle (and some claim well after) there was no scientific
method and therfore no science.
Among the scientific ufo field is -
Prof. John Mack (late)
Believed in tales of alien abduction.
J. Allen Hynek
Was consultant astronomer to Project Bluebook. Obsessed
Dr. Micho Kaku to some extent
The possibility of mutliuniverses doesn't mean little green men.
You've mentioned him twice
Dr Kevin Randle
Conspiracy kook. Buyabook
And more.
The list I posted the other day has others, plus there are further
ones I could dig up.
Yes and all of them will have the same or lesser credentials than
those you have already posted
Dumb American.
--
If you are a hard skeptic then you haven't researched or questioned
enough. If you believe something too much then you have the same
problem.
George is exactly that, one of those dumb Americans. He has absolutely
nothing to offer unless it comes out of a book. He doesn't do any UFO
or para-normal research and acts like he's an expert. I've dismissed
him just like Tholen. He is most likely gov'mnt cheese. Bought and
paid for.......
RT
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Yep. I've come across some ignoramuses and tools in my time but these ones
really take the cake.
And they actually do think they know everything. Amazing.
--
If you are a hard skeptic then you haven't researched or questioned
enough. If you believe something too much then you have the same
problem. |
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| Andrew W... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:29 pm |
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Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. wrote:
[quote]On Oct 22, 6:37 pm, "Andrew W" <removethis_ajwer... at (no spam) optushome.com.au
wrote:
"Hagar" <ha... at (no spam) sahm.name> wrote in message
news:u5Kdne5-t6bxSH3XnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com...
"Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A." <scie... at (no spam) zzz.com> wrote in
message
news:0aefb444-3e61-4ac4-b113-0b088605322f at (no spam) g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
EX-GI CLAIMS THE ARMY TRACKED UFOs ON RADAR AS EARLY AS 1942
All this proves, LipFlapper, is that people in the Military, who are
stationed
at desolate outposts, have the tendency to take a nip of 'shine now
and then,
which causes them to see things which aren't really there ... sort
of like the
"pink elephant" of myth.
Case closed.
What about airforce pilots and senior military officials while
they're on duty or in flight?
Are you saying they were all drinking?
Can you drink and fly a fighter jet at the same time?
Can senior officials keep getting away with drinking while on duty?
What are you saying exactly?
Don't try and reason with the debunkers, they have no use for
civilized discussions.
It has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that debunkers fall into
3 main categories:
#1) Burned-out retired intel, agents such as "H"eroin, O-BORG, and
Borsch;
#2) Drunkards and drug-addicts such as Cujo, Sludge and Twit;
#3) Mentally retarded kids who are confined to their cells, such as
Hagar, U-Bob and Wider Sham.
These mental midgets are easily dismissed and are of no use to
civilized society. In the near future we can just toss them into a
nice new FEMA camp, for their own protection!
As of now, debunkers are BANNED from these newsgroups, but we may let
them post so we can monitor their truth-terror activities.
Sir ARtiØ
[/quote]
What category does HeavyVACuumcleaner come under?
--
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enough. If you believe something too much then you have the same
problem. |
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| Andrew W... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 3:52 pm |
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george wrote:
[quote]On Nov 1, 3:55 pm, vtcapo <vtc... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
George is exactly that, one of those dumb Americans. He has
absolutely nothing to offer unless it comes out of a book. He
doesn't do any UFO or para-normal research and acts like he's an
expert. I've dismissed him just like Tholen. He is most likely
gov'mnt cheese. Bought and paid for.......
You really enjoy being wrong don't you..
So far you're 100% in error.
To repeat.
A UFO is an Unidentified Flying Object.
It is NOT an alien spacecraft
[/quote]
Still stuck on page one. Lol.
--
If you are a hard skeptic then you haven't researched or questioned
enough. If you believe something too much then you have the same
problem. |
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