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| Robert Peffers... |
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"Bryn Fraser" <brianlovett666 at (no spam) googlemail.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 27, 1:17 am, HardySpicer <gyansor... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
[quote]http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6891362.ece
attention all Greenies and Warmists...give up meat NOW....
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People will need to consider turning vegetarian if the world is to
conquer climate change, according to a leading authority on global
warming.
In an interview with The Times, Lord Stern of Brentford said: “Meat is
a wasteful use of water and creates a lot of greenhouse gases. It puts
enormous pressure on the world’s resources. A vegetarian diet is
better.”
Direct emissions of methane from cows and pigs is a significant source
of greenhouse gases. Methane is 23 times more powerful than carbon
dioxide as a global warming gas.
Lord Stern, the author of the influential 2006 Stern Review on the
cost of tackling global warming, said that a successful deal at the
Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen in December would lead to
soaring costs for meat and other foods that generate large quantities
of greenhouse gases.
He predicted that people’s attitudes would evolve until meat eating
became unacceptable. “I think it’s important that people think about
what they are doing and that includes what they are eating,” he said.
“I am 61 now and attitudes towards drinking and driving have changed
radically since I was a student. People change their notion of what is
responsible. They will increasingly ask about the carbon content of
their food.”
Lord Stern, a former chief economist of the World Bank and now I. G.
Patel Professor of Economics at the London School of Economics, warned
that British taxpayers would need to contribute about £3 billion a
year by 2015 to help poor countries to cope with the inevitable impact
of climate change.
He also issued a clear message to President Obama that he must attend
the meeting in Copenhagen in person in order for an effective deal to
be reached. US leadership, he said, was “desperately needed” to secure
a deal.
He said that he was deeply concerned that popular opinion had so far
failed to grasp the scale of the changes needed to address climate
change, or of the importance of the UN meeting in Copenhagen from
December 7 to December 18. “I am not sure that people fully understand
what we are talking about or the kind of changes that will be
necessary,” he added.
Up to 20,000 delegates from 192 countries are due to attend the UN
conference in the Danish capital. Its aim is to forge a deal to reduce
greenhouse gas emissions sufficiently to prevent an increase in global
temperatures of more than 2 degrees centigrade. Any increase above
this level is expected to trigger runaway climate change, threatening
the lives of hundreds of millions of people.
Lord Stern said that Copenhagen presented a unique opportunity for the
world to break free from its catastrophic current trajectory. He said
that the world needed to agree to halve global greenhouse gas
emissions by 2030 to 25 gigatonnes a year from the current level of 50
gigatonnes.
UN figures suggest that meat production is responsible for about 18
per cent of global carbon emissions, including the destruction of
forest land for cattle ranching and the production of animal feeds
such as soy.
Lord Stern, who said that he was not a strict vegetarian himself, was
speaking on the eve of an all-parliamentary debate on climate change.
His remarks provoked anger from the meat industry.
Jonathan Scurlock, of the National Farmers Union, said: “Going
vegetarian is not a worldwide solution. It’s not a view shared by the
NFU. Farmers in this country are interested in evidence-based
policymaking. We don’t have a methane-free cow or pig available to
us.”
On average, a British person eats 50g of protein derived from meat
each day — the equivalent of a chicken breast or a lamb chop. This is
a relatively low level for a wealthy country but between 25 per cent
and 50 per cent higher than the amount recommended by the World Health
Organisation.
Su Taylor, a spokeswoman for the Vegetarian Society, welcomed Lord
Stern’s remarks. “What we choose to eat is one of the biggest factors
in our personal impact on the environment,” she said. “Meat uses up a
lot of resources and a vegetarian diet consumes a lot less land and
water. One of the best things you can do about climate change is
reduce the amount of meat in your diet.”
The UN has warned that meat consumption is on course to double by the
middle of the century.
Hardy
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Simple solution!
Stick tubes up the moo-cows bottoms, end of energy crisis!
500 litres of Methane a day? You could run a car off that!
God why am I so clever?
Bryn
Now I read something about that subject somewhere, didn't some scientist or
other come up with a feeding supplement that reduced cattle fart?
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Auld Bob |
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| Robert Peffers... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:24 am |
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"Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan at (no spam) nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
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[quote]Bryn Fraser wrote:
On Oct 28, 6:22 pm, Cory Bhreckan <coryvreckan at (no spam) nospam_verizon.net
wrote:
Bryn Fraser wrote:
Hardy
Simple solution!
Stick tubes up the moo-cows bottoms, end of energy crisis!
500 litres of Methane a day? You could run a car off that!
God why am I so clever?
Bryn
Most of the methane doesn't come out of the cow's bum.
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"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall
Ever had one fart at you?
Bryn
Yep, I worked on a dairy farm for a while whilst I was living in Vermont.
Most of the methane generated by a ruminant come out of the mouth.
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"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall
A bit like scs posters then?[/quote]
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Auld Bob |
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| Harry Merrick... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 3:34 am |
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Robert Peffers wrote:
[quote]"Harry Merrick" <homestud at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Halmyre wrote:
On 27 Oct, 09:37, Dänk 1010011010 <dank... at (no spam) rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 27, 2:17 am, HardySpicer <gyansor... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6891362.ece
attention all Greenies and Warmists...give up meat NOW....
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People will need to consider turning vegetarian if the world is to
conquer climate change, according to a leading authority on global
warming.
In an interview with The Times, Lord Stern of Brentford said:
"Meat is a wasteful use of water and creates a lot of greenhouse
gases. It puts enormous pressure on the world's resources. A
vegetarian diet is better."
Direct emissions of methane from cows and pigs is a significant
source of greenhouse gases. Methane is 23 times more powerful than
carbon dioxide as a global warming gas.
...
The UN has warned that meat consumption is on course to double by
the middle of the century.
A more practical solution would be to start practicing cannibalism,
No thanks, Henderarse might be on the menu.
Indeed.
However, since Homo Sapiens is a species of Herbivores,
Herbivores?
Don't you mean Omnivores?
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LOL! - WOOPS!! Sorry about that. Of course I mean Omnivores!!
[quote]
it is no doubt that
we would deprive ourselves of many valuable sources of minerals and
chemicals should we eat no meat at all. You only have to look at the
sallow faces of convinced vegetarians to recognise that they are
missing something vital.
--
Harry Merrick.
Besides- Wir aa Jock Tamson's Bairns.
[/quote]
Yes, undoubtedly we are "all the same under the skin", but we do still have
to be nourished properly. Meat is a vital constituent of that.
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Harry Merrick. |
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| Halmyre... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:32 am |
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On 28 Oct, 18:31, Bryn Fraser <brianlovett... at (no spam) googlemail.com> wrote:
[quote]On Oct 28, 6:22 pm, Cory Bhreckan <coryvreckan at (no spam) nospam_verizon.net
wrote:
Bryn Fraser wrote:
Hardy
Simple solution!
Stick tubes up the moo-cows bottoms, end of energy crisis!
500 litres of Methane a day? You could run a car off that!
God why am I so clever?
Bryn
Most of the methane doesn't come out of the cow's bum.
--
"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall
Ever had one fart at you?
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I imagine it's a bit like reading one of Henderarse's posts?
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| Robert Peffers... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:55 am |
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"Harry Merrick" <homestud at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message
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[quote]Robert Peffers wrote:
"Harry Merrick" <homestud at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7kr9uvF3b0f5qU1 at (no spam) mid.individual.net...
Halmyre wrote:
On 27 Oct, 09:37, Dänk 1010011010 <dank... at (no spam) rocketmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 27, 2:17 am, HardySpicer <gyansor... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6891362.ece
attention all Greenies and Warmists...give up meat NOW....
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
People will need to consider turning vegetarian if the world is to
conquer climate change, according to a leading authority on global
warming.
In an interview with The Times, Lord Stern of Brentford said:
"Meat is a wasteful use of water and creates a lot of greenhouse
gases. It puts enormous pressure on the world's resources. A
vegetarian diet is better."
Direct emissions of methane from cows and pigs is a significant
source of greenhouse gases. Methane is 23 times more powerful than
carbon dioxide as a global warming gas.
...
The UN has warned that meat consumption is on course to double by
the middle of the century.
A more practical solution would be to start practicing cannibalism,
No thanks, Henderarse might be on the menu.
Indeed.
However, since Homo Sapiens is a species of Herbivores,
Herbivores?
Don't you mean Omnivores?
LOL! - WOOPS!! Sorry about that. Of course I mean Omnivores!!
it is no doubt that
we would deprive ourselves of many valuable sources of minerals and
chemicals should we eat no meat at all. You only have to look at the
sallow faces of convinced vegetarians to recognise that they are
missing something vital.
--
Harry Merrick.
Besides- Wir aa Jock Tamson's Bairns.
Yes, undoubtedly we are "all the same under the skin", but we do still
have to be nourished properly. Meat is a vital constituent of that.
--
Harry Merrick.
Well! Perhaps not these days. I have no axe to grind as I'm am omnivore but,[/quote]
as I understand it, they have succeeded in making synthetic, "meat", that
includes the trace elements of real meat.
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Auld Bob |
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| conwaycaine... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:52 am |
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"Robert Peffers" <peffers50 at (no spam) btinternet.com> wrote in message
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[quote]"Harry Merrick" <homestud at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message
Halmyre wrote:
Well! Perhaps not these days. I have no axe to grind as I'm am omnivore
but, as I understand it, they have succeeded in making synthetic, "meat",
that includes the trace elements of real meat.
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That ought to kill you dead, right enough.............. |
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| conwaycaine... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:54 am |
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"Bryn Fraser" <brianlovett666 at (no spam) googlemail.com> wrote in message
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On Oct 28, 6:22 pm, Cory Bhreckan <coryvreckan at (no spam) nospam_verizon.net>
[quote]Most of the methane doesn't come out of the cow's bum.
[/quote]
Ever had one fart at you?
Yankee Breckhan?
Hardly.
He wouldn't a pasture if he slipped and fell into a pile of cow doo. |
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| conwaycaine... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:54 am |
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"Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan at (no spam) nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
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[quote]Bryn Fraser wrote:
On Oct 28, 6:22 pm, Cory Bhreckan <coryvreckan at (no spam) nospam_verizon.net
wrote:
Bryn Fraser wrote:
Hardy
Simple solution!
Stick tubes up the moo-cows bottoms, end of energy crisis!
500 litres of Methane a day? You could run a car off that!
God why am I so clever?
Bryn
Most of the methane doesn't come out of the cow's bum.
--
"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall
Ever had one fart at you?
Bryn
Yep, I worked on a dairy farm for a while whilst I was living in Vermont.
Most of the methane generated by a ruminant come out of the mouth.
[/quote]
Only a bluebelly couldn't tell the north end of a cow from the south end. |
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| Cory Bhreckan... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:56 am |
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Robert Peffers wrote:
[quote]"Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan at (no spam) nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
news:hcae20$k6g$1 at (no spam) news.eternal-september.org...
Bryn Fraser wrote:
On Oct 28, 6:22 pm, Cory Bhreckan <coryvreckan at (no spam) nospam_verizon.net
wrote:
Bryn Fraser wrote:
Hardy
Simple solution!
Stick tubes up the moo-cows bottoms, end of energy crisis!
500 litres of Methane a day? You could run a car off that!
God why am I so clever?
Bryn
Most of the methane doesn't come out of the cow's bum.
--
"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall
Ever had one fart at you?
Bryn
Yep, I worked on a dairy farm for a while whilst I was living in Vermont.
Most of the methane generated by a ruminant come out of the mouth.
--
"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall
A bit like scs posters then?
[/quote]
Budda-boom.
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"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall |
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| Cory Bhreckan... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:02 pm |
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conwaycaine wrote:
[quote]"Bryn Fraser" <brianlovett666 at (no spam) googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:b1ed8845-3e1d-42ff-9a9b-bc28bbf32b46 at (no spam) d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 28, 6:22 pm, Cory Bhreckan <coryvreckan at (no spam) nospam_verizon.net
Most of the methane doesn't come out of the cow's bum.
Ever had one fart at you?
Yankee Breckhan?
Hardly.
He wouldn't a pasture if he slipped and fell into a pile of cow doo.
[/quote]
You Southerner have a language all your own. Someday you'll have to
translate that into *nglish.
--
"For the stronger we our houses do build,
The less chance we have of being killed." - William Topaz McGonagall |
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| conwaycaine... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:25 pm |
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"Cory Bhreckan" <coryvreckan at (no spam) nospam_verizon.net> wrote in message
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[quote]conwaycaine wrote:
"Bryn Fraser" <brianlovett666 at (no spam) googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:b1ed8845-3e1d-42ff-9a9b-bc28bbf32b46 at (no spam) d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 28, 6:22 pm, Cory Bhreckan <coryvreckan at (no spam) nospam_verizon.net
Most of the methane doesn't come out of the cow's bum.
Ever had one fart at you?
Yankee Breckhan?
Hardly.
He wouldn't a pasture if he slipped and fell into a pile of cow doo.
You Southerner have a language all your own. Someday you'll have to
translate that into *nglish.
[/quote]
Hey, I dropped a word.
This isn't English 301, you know........... |
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